Switching from Android to Windows Phone Part 2: Oddities and Stock Apps
18. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
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78. shy2papa (Posts: 195; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
I rather switch back to Symbian than WP7 if i had no choice
7. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1037; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
I agree the browser could use some work but it works pretty good for me.
9. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Good write up Michael. Looking forward to part 3. Honestly though, im surprised you didnt break up XBL into both 2 and 3. The app itself and its functionality as a stock app for pt2 and the actual game/app selection for pt3. But hey, writers choice.. lol. :)
12. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I considered that, but I like to keep things together and whole rather than split it up.
13. Gcombs (Posts: 131; Member since: 22 Aug 2011)
I've found WP to be great Os. If your totally into customization and apps than no it's not for you but your missing out on a very fluid Os. Very easy to use, social networks are intergrated well into the Os and your not fumbling through all the bloatware that Android has. WP is a clean Os and I will be going back to WP once W8 comes to Verizon. I'm not feeling this Droid Razr.
27. KingShango (Posts: 89; Member since: 16 May 2012)
Thanks for the solid article. My contract is up this summer and I'm thinking about switching up. I like android (currently 2.3) but don't think its anything special. Looking forward to part 3.
PS - Does anyone know where to find a similar deep comparision between Android and iOS thats somewhat unbiased.
30. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I'd say definitely check out Android 4.0, because it is a huge change from 2.3. I don't know that you'd want to go to WP in the summer since WP8 is coming in the fall, but maybe you could stretch your upgrade a bit.
35. KingShango (Posts: 89; Member since: 16 May 2012)
Thanks for the heads up. I planned on waiting until after all the upcoming conferences were over to see where all the OS's were heading. I'd be pissed to get Lumia 900 and not have it upgrade in fall.
34. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4650; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I don't know if you saw this, so:
Android Vs iOS The Truth about Apple and Google's OS
**BONUS FAQ Video**
I don't know if author of those videos was biased or not, but he is talking about the facts.
37. demarmj (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 May 2012)
One of my favorite arguments is when he compares how difficult it is to find the back button! rofl :-P
39. KingShango (Posts: 89; Member since: 16 May 2012)
Thanks for the videos. Definitely worth watching.
33. demarmj (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 May 2012)
How about a fresh new comment? :
I just came from the Aria to the Nokia Lumia 900...I agree with just about everything in this article....love the UI and how third party apps follow that UI system...it's seen the best on the FB and Twitter apps. Nokia Maps has worked great so far...although I never used too many "labs" settings on my aria. I love the web browser simply because i was coming from a 3.2 inch screen with htc flash light...so even if it has limited html 5 technology, i'm just happy that it's smooth. I laughed about the search button issue because i've caught myself doing that many times. Multitasking satisfies me; it's just something you have to get used to on WP7. Lastly, the one things that's frustrating is not necessarily Open Source...but the fact that there are some limited applications that could use some WP open source and my main example is the battery...there's no application that indicates battery percentage so you have to go to settings, find battery etc etc it becomes very tedious. I'm assuming there's no app because the phone doesn't display that information openly...Besides that...i have to say that I'm really enjoying WP 7 much better than Android 2.3 or even 4.0 that I had running on my aria...just imho. Great article.
52. networkdood (Posts: 5618; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I had the Aria in June of 2010 - it is a mid-level phone - not very good with ICS 4.0.x.
67. demarmj (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 May 2012)
I actually thought 4.0 worked great on it. Incredibly smooth for a 600 mhz processor. A shame the actual phone itself never got past 2.2. Great little phone though.
84. profperez1 (Posts: 47; Member since: 08 May 2012)
Help me out here. I would get the Lumia in Sept----but I have heard very little good things about AT&T. I live in SoCal and it is rated a distant 3rd.
I'm fearful I will love the phone but have carrier problems. I can't find ANY positive articles "AT&T the best mobile carrier". Only negative news. So I feel this would be am emotional response to get a nice phone----but then be unhappy.
90. demarmj (Posts: 17; Member since: 03 May 2012)
In general, At&t has a bad rep for call quality, customer service, and network availability...i've used it on the East Coast and Midwest. The network is awful in the city of Chicago, but it's good enough to get me through daily tasks. In the suburbs, it works like any other network. If the reception gets you 2 to 3 bars in your area then you should be fine.
40. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
good article Michael. nice, informative and fair. looking forward to next part of the series. as an android lover i cant think of switching but its always nice to know something different. its good that WP7 is doing good from the begining. it will actually help android/google to do even better because competition is always good for tech and innovation. again very nice read.
49. lzsbleach (Posts: 155; Member since: 20 May 2012)
Im paying very close attention to windows and I like wat I see but I feel Android is more superior and is still growing fast, but I would take a cheap windows phone over a low or mid-range Android phone any day.
56. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I'm very interested to see not only what the software looks like for WP8, but the hardware as well. I'd love to play with a multi-core, HD screen, WP device.
50. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Very nice article. Doesn't overpraise the platform, nor does it underestimate it, only talks about the facts in an unbiased way. We should have more of these articles that can actually answer some questions and help an ordinary user make a choice. I just wish the fanboy madness could stop.
54. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
The madness will never stop, because fanboys are inherently irrational and closed-minded.
It just amazes me that we have the Internet, which can be the greatest tool for discussion and sharing of knowledge, and it's ruined by people who can't do something as simple as respect someone else's opinion. It's not like these people are saying "I believe that murder is awesome." They're just saying "I prefer platform x over platform y."
Just makes me depressed sometimes.
57. Mxyzptlk (limited) (Posts: 2846; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I agree with some of your points. I just think you're overreacting a tad bit. People are going to be close-minded regardless what OS it is. You have to accept the bad with the good.
68. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Sorry, but I absolutely refuse to believe that people can't at least respect that a differing opinion, especially when that opinion has absolutely zero bearing on their life.
But of course that's the problem with fanboys and trolls. They are so damn egomaniacal and insecure as to think that their world is threatened by someone thinking differently. Only the Internet and politics allow for BS like that, and it's completely ridiculous.
61. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
michael, you might as well be asking for world peace and free energy for the planet. its likely never gonna happen man. Just gotta roll with it.
69. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Rolling allows it to continue, which is unacceptable. Respecting differing opinions and having civil discussion shouldn't be an idea that people find impossible.
77. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Oh, I completely agree with you, but chiding people on the internet has about as much effect as opening your window at your house to try to cool down Egypt. From what I've seen, instead of causing introspection, it seems to cause them to double down on stupidity. Maybe I'm just more apathetic to the whole thing.. lol
81. itiswhatitis (Posts: 419; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
I bet you're a prefectionist i tell you what take it easy nothing's perfect nor it will ever be!
82. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Not asking for it to be perfect, but we can definitely make it a lot better than it is.
83. itiswhatitis (Posts: 419; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
A headstrong perfectionist,i sure like to see where that takes you!
62. snowgator (Posts: 3160; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Micheal, You do your job well. Anyone can tell you are putting In a lot of effort to do this story correctly.
I will happily wait on part three before I make any real, comments. But WP is a 2 year old OS, and not as mature as Android or iOS. The differences seem to mostly come from that.
66. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
To be honest all 4r platform should be in a house-hold
enjoying the good the bad. Nothing is almost perfect....
Younger brother has a ip4s, sister has a L800, dad has a N95 8gb, i have a The Note, oneX, S2 and the new Nexus.
All 4r platform have there ups and down. But i prefer Android..... Every-one is different.....enjoy.
73. indigo87 (Posts: 40; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
Thank you Michael for shining some light on windows phone. I have had wp for a year now & I love the OS, to bad the company I work for only decidess to only carry Iphones and android devices.
They have discountinue the windows phone's from our line up on the three major carriers. They're very anti-windows phone even if the carrier is pro-windows phone but since we our a third party carrier we only get a small selection of the three main carriers phones and not all.
79. Nico85 (Posts: 10; Member since: 15 Dec 2011)
I have 2 smartphones; my personal HTC Trophy and a Droid 4 given to me from work. My 1 brother has the Droid Bionic and my youngest brother is expecting his new Razr Maxx. Both Windows and Droids have their strengths and weaknesses. Yes, the Android system can be buggy but it can also blow my Trophy out of the water when doing certain tasks. The low end Androids like the Motorola citrus can't keep up with my Trophy
I've had Windows Live/Hotmail accounts for years and I have all of my photos backed up to the Skydrive. I still own my 8GB Zune with my music. I have an Xbox 360. Obviously a WP7 phone is best to sync everything together. The OS is simple to use, quick, and you either love it or hate it. I was an in-store technician for VZW and didn't want to have to work on my own phone when I came home from work (this was when the Droid 2 and LG Vortex were out.) I waited 6 months before buying my phone to make sure there weren't any known issues.
And to please the Apple users, my girlfriend has the Iphone 4 with AT&T after having the Iphone 3GS. It works for her, but it doesn't do anything for me. I don't understand the attraction to it. Again, that's JUST ME!
Hope this helps anyone . . . Now . . . BRING OUT THE TROLLS!
85. profperez1 (Posts: 47; Member since: 08 May 2012)
Nice balanced post here. Having an upgrade coming to me from VZW it's very hard not to drop $300 on a new Droid. But at the end of the day I think I would less happy with the OS. I have an old Trophy I bought used on Ebay. It's been amazing. Like your girlfriend I had the iPhone4---sold it. Just didn't appeal to me. Although the iPhone is the relative same size as my Trophy----it makes a better use of space and makes the keyboard bigger. If Apple had a 4 inch phone with more buttons I might go for that. But the solo button and the bottom seems like a poor choice from a human factors engineering standpoint.
80. profperez1 (Posts: 47; Member since: 08 May 2012)
The article is spot on. I think in a year many of these issues will be mute. I am a mobile addict (I get 2-3 phones per year) and have an upgrade with VZW and my contract is up in Sept. I am just waiting. I am hoping Sprint has something for me in Fall. Iphone4 didn't feel great out of the box----and ALL my Androids phones got slower over time. So for me I need an OS that is going to be stable and fast out of the box and 1 year later. I miss some of the Google services----but the MS stuff works and will only get better. I am getting concerned about the shear size of phones. Guys have to carry there phones around with them---usually in a back pocket. So something over 4.3 inches seems nice---but a bit much at the same time. I just bought a Kindle 3G and like reading on a 6 inch screen---but don't want to use it as a phone or carry it 24/7!
91. shanay (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 May 2012)
To all the people arguing the differences in growth between android and iOS please remember that iOS has 3 phones being sold which is the 3GS,4 and 4S while android has so many different phones. Also the amount of people leaving android is much higher than iOS and I agree with anyone who says android lags because try having many background tasks running and see how slow the ui becomes!
92. sprockkets (Posts: 950; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
" It's a much more unified and well designed system than Android 2.x, which still dominates the market. Android 4.0 comes a long way, but as we mentioned, ICS is technically the 7th major iteration of Android, while Windows Phone 7.5 is really just the 2nd major iteration of the platform, so WP has something of a headstart in that respect."
Hmmm, sure, let's just ignore Windows CE, PocketPC 2000, Pocket PC 2002, Windows Mobile 2003, then 2003 SE, 5, 6, 6.1 and 6.5 while we are at it huh?
93. Hammerfest (Posts: 348; Member since: 12 May 2012)
Well then, I wrote this after the guy above me (didnt see his comment)...
"""Windows Phone 7.5 is really just the 2nd major iteration of the platform"""
Really? As a WM2003 and up user (stopped at WinBLOWS Phone 7), you REALLY could have fooled me... I mean you got me stumped... blown away even...
BRB, gotta tell my Mogul, TP2, and a few other devices in my family that they dont count as a Windows Phone "iteration"... (lets not forget that they changed Windows Mobile to Windows Phone, technically, WM5-6-6.5 where all Windows Phone along with previous versions like WM2002-2003...)
egadz batman... a new UI and you forget where you came from...
94. Mohamed_Abdulkareem (Posts: 42; Member since: 15 May 2012)
I think WP is a strong and well-built OS, but, it's still poor comparing to IOS and Android. It looks like a baby which is grwoing slowly but healthily. may be after 3 years WP becomes the big man. but now IOS and android (supported by a great and diverse collections of mobile phones) are the ones.
95. 7thspaceman (Posts: 902; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
One thing for sure The New Windows 8 Smart phones will be an easier smart phone to make a switch from Adroid to Windows smart phones because most of them will have the high tech gear inside them that Android and Iphones now have so a former Android or Iphone smart phone user wont feel they are using a less capable smart phone. My hope is that The Microsoft software team adds more features to the Windows 8 smart phone OS there was an article on the Internet that pointed out a lot of functions the Windows 7.5 mango smart phones did not have. I hope the software Engineers at Microsoft read that article and are taking swift action to make sure Microsoft Windows smart phone 8 does not come to the Market place behind the Android and Iphone as far as software reatures are concerned. The main problems Microsoft had when Windows 7 series Smart phones came to the market place was software and hardware weaknesses Windows Phone 8 specs show that the hardware problem is gone but what about the Software features of windows 8 smart phones?
97. jack1059 (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)
Bada has a larger market share than wp does. So why not an article on switching to bada? So far this 'third ecosystem' hasn't amounted to much. Despite probably the largest chunk of cash spent on promotion I've ever seen. Will it grow? Undoubtedly. Will it be significant? That's the big question.
98. balajin1 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 May 2013)
Entry of Windows phone changed the look and feel of mobile phones. I have used symbian, iOs and now Windows 7.8, but not an android till date. The look and feel of the screen on an android phone is the same, whether you pay $50 or $500. What's the big difference in the home screen of an android 2.1 and 4.1, except for the hardware changes? The interface on the Windows series starting from 6 to 7.8 is totally different. Moreover, the back button is not for multi-tasking. If you have to do a multitasking in windows phone, you need to long press the back button where it shows the open applications on the background. All you need to do is scroll and choose the application you want to go back and work on. Windows is always a user friendly platform. I have used windows 6.1 with HTC TyTnII, where I had android installed on it. Show me one user having windows or ios or bada installed on an android device? Likes and dislikes are limited to the individual commenting, basis the mobile platform they are into. From a lower end mobile to a costlier tab, the android interface looks the same. Every OS will have its own advantages and disadvantages. If HTC oneX has more functions/features, one will say its the feature of an HTC and NOTan android, however, HTC lower end home screen and HTC one X home screen are the same, except for the screen size and hardware difference.