Sharp begins mass production of 5-inch 1080p smartphone screens
That’s the absolute highest smartphones have ever seen. Currently, the cream of the crop handsets feature a pixel density of at most 340ppi.
Great as it sounds mass production at Sharp is only the first steps and we’re yet to hear from the big phone makers about a 1080p phone. Chinese Oppo was probably the first company from the smaller manufacturers to announce it will bring a 1080p smartphone. HTC is also widely rumored to be readying 5-inch 1080p smartphone (could it be the HTC One X 5?), and finally we’ve had rumors about a 5-inch Nexus.
Good news is that Sharp isn't the only manufacturer making this kind of high-resolution screens. LG has also kicked off production of a 1080 x 1920 display of its own with high-performance in-plan switching (AH-IPS). Actually, LG is the one to claim a "first" for this kind of screens.
Whatever the first device with the new display is, it will definitely be a huge step for smartphones. The extra clarity would make it much easier to read text on your device, bringing to a level that’s much less tiring for the eye. We’ll keep you posted, so stay tuned.
31. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Please be in LG Optimus G. I can't wait another year for a nexus.
51. Daniel.95 (Posts: 89; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)
LG is a Poor brand these hardware made for ExBrands(htc.....)
2. rihel_95 (Posts: 220; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)
Great displays upcoming. hope it manages the battery issues.
3. wendygarett (unregistered)
Oh no!!! Not nexus 5!!!
Why am I have a feelings to love android more and more...
17. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1086; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
you and me both buddy :)
and that htc nexus 5 will be like The Great American Dream come true!
27. wendygarett (unregistered)
I don't wanna to disappoint here but...
I'm not allowed to love android since I'm a die-hard iFans... But yes we are buddy :)
And nexus is a very nice device...
4. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4179; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ohh boy. This rumored HTC Nexus 5 just got 100% more plausible. I really don't know what to get.
The Samsung Galaxy Note II or this rumored HTC Nexus 5. MAN why does my life have to DIFFICULT!!!!
6. wendygarett (unregistered)
Note 2 sound promising... Trust me my friend, it is now available in everywhere I think...
7. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4179; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You know it's getting to be a tough decision because on one hand the Samsung Galaxy Note II's screen is 5.5" & the RGB 720p Super AMOLED is phenominal. YES I can root it, & I will, ESPECIALLY since the international Samsung Galaxy Note II has ALREADY been rooted.
But on the other hand the HTC Nexus 5 is going to have a minimum 5" 1080p screen with the all mighty Qualcomm quad-core Krait S4 Pro with the Adreno 320 GPU.
Man I just don't know what to do? I think I am going to go with the one that has the larger screen. I have to wait to see if the HTC Nexus 5 is 5.3" or larger because if it's just 5" then the Samsung Galaxy Note II's 5.5" will be in my pocket.
wendygarett, what should I do????? lol
8. wendygarett (unregistered)
Will you change your mind if I say that...
HTC and nexus will not give you a removable battery and micro sd that you desire to...
Will you immediate pick note 2? :)
10. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4179; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You know, that's right. As of RIGHT now the Samsung Galaxy Note II does have a removable battery & can accept up to 64GB microSD card.
Let's pray the HTC Nexus 5 will have that too because if not it will be a BIG disappointment.
13. wendygarett (unregistered)
Trust me... It won't... I'm 100% sure about this...
But if you think warranty is more important... Then don't root it, pick nexus 5
19. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Samsung doesn't void warrantys for rooting. I bricked one of my sgs2's that way I asked them and they fixed it.
22. wendygarett (unregistered)
They fix once, but not twice...
To me I will never jailbreak my iDevice tho...
Because I don't trust Apple built quality and I dont trust a clumsy me...
Don't waste your warranty just because of that my friend :)
25. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
My sgs2 got bricked because of a bad ROM. Note to self, do not download from an unknown source.
5. MeoCao (unregistered)
HTC is likely customer if this is true, SS will only use AMOLED, Google is unlikely as Nexus phones never sold well. Oppo does not have brand recognition to mass produce anything.
But they say human eyes can't see the difference when the pixel density is higher than 350 ppi so what is the point of 443 ppi?
33. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Evena hawk eyes won't be able to see the pixels. :D
Honestly though, reading text on it would be like reading high quality text on paper.
9. remixfa (Posts: 13930; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
what a rediculous thing to have.
1080p? really? You want to push a much much more pixel dense resolution than 720p why? Your eye WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE.. lol. It cant see anything over the low 300ppi, so its all just a waste. For large tablets sure, but for a phone? useless.
Think of all the extra muscle its going to take to use the smartphone. Welcome back to the land of jaggies if they use any of the current chips. 1080p takes a lot of muscle to run, even compared to 720p which is already pretty intensive for mobile uses. Maybe when the A15's come out it would be enough to power it smoothly. Also, think of the battery drainage to power that PPI and keep it lit.
All of a sudden, the Note2's and the Razr Maxx's battery become "standard" batteries and anything less is a half day battery.
No.. you can take your 1080p and keep that. I dont want it. There isnt a single benefit other than telling your friends you have 1080p on a phone. Not a single actual real life benefit.
11. wendygarett (unregistered)
For once, I have to agree with you remix...
You know most of the tech, and I think you should be one of a PA writers... Just sayin...
12. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 380; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
That's what Apple has fed to your brain so you don't put the iPhone's PPI head to head with other phone's... of course you can tell the difference between them... But Apple wouldn't want you to know that would they?
18. Retro-touch (Posts: 260; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
So you bought your phone so you can compare it to the iPhone or to actually use and enjoy it? Seriously over 300ppi you won't notice a thing unless the screen has defects, I can't tell on an iPhone 4/4S and I can't tell on a SGS2 either, and I ain't gonna strain my eyes to try to see it, normal viewing distance. This is overkill
46. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4069; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
No, the human eye cannot distinguish pixels over 300 ppi unless you are a trained professional, it can be seen more easily with a Pentile display, but it is still hardly noticeable.
Also, to insinuate Remix is a brainwashed iOS fan is just ridiculous.
29. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Exellent comment and I agree 100%. 1080p is over 2x the amount of pixels vs 720p. This means that essentially you need 2x the amount of graphics processing just to draw the same frame.
"Hey buddy look at my 1080p screen isn't it SWEEEET!? Also, see how you can stare at the battery meter dropping 1 pixel per second during this HD game? Cool huh!?"
32. redmd (Posts: 896; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
actually it's 4X if you account both dimensions.
37. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
1080*1920 = 2,073,600 pixels
720*1280 = 921,600 pixels
2,073,600 / 921,600 = 2.25
Where do you get 4x?
39. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Sorry "IHateApple," I should have hit refresh before posting!
54. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Doesn't matter. We are all humans. :D
30. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4179; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
remixfa, if they want to make it, then why is it ridiculous? Hey I am all for it. It's like saying an athlete is not worth $100 million, but if someone is WILLING to pay it then who are we to say otherwise?
I mean if Sharp wants to make it, then who are we to say it's ridiculous? They must have their reasons to make it. Why would they spend their time and resources to make something like that? It makes sense to someone. So I really don't think it's all to ridiculous. Just my opinion.
Hey whether you like it or not 1080p screens are coming.
40. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
You definitely have a point. I say the same thing about things like the Galaxy Note..."Who wants a phone that large?" But it simply isn't for me, and some people out there find it alluring. Who am I to argue with personal preference? I just despise those that tout they have the best thing when they are really simply trying to justify their purchase.
42. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4179; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Exactly. Companies develop stuff because they want to sell it. I mean if you had the choice of a 720p or a 1080p & they both were the same price which one will you choose?
Sharp is doing this because the demand is there & because they want to differentiate from what is out there.
47. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4069; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The only reason they are doing this is to attract uneducated consumers with the "1080p" banner. Really, on displays under 7 inches it isn't necessary; even with 7 inches it's still pretty ridiculous.
It takes more graphics power and will drain batteries very quickly; it's alright to try to take a step into new things, but not if it actually does more harm than good.
34. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Ok, so how about Nexus 7 having a 1920 by 1200 screen which will result in 324 pixels per inch?
38. TalkingTechy (Posts: 97; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
There you go, now that almost makes sense. Though arguably you don't "need" as much ppi for a tablet because you usually don't hold it as close to you.
Still, the article is talking about a 5inch screen (already ridiculously large IMHO for a phone) at 1080p, not a little larger one at 7inch.
55. IHateApple (banned) (Posts: 122; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Great for bragging rights! And also for getting sued by Apple!
41. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 630; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
It's what is nowadays called innovation. Quantitative accumulation of specs. Just like megapixels in cameras. We should all get microscopes with the devices so we could enjoy how sharp those screens are.
There is however a possibility to revive the old idea of magnifying glass on which you attach this smartphone - you get the feeling you are watching large 1080p HDTV.
43. The_Innovation (Posts: 562; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Just specs to grab consumers wanting something better than what there already is, even if what there already is will be no different as you mentioned.
44. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5850; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It is a plot by Apple to re-introduce the lag issue to Android phones. Think about it....
48. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4069; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I've been trying to say the same thing for a while now. Some people just can't get it through their heads.
52. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
for the first time, I agree with your statement.
It's all about a massive meaningless race for "the biggest and the best".
For 4 up to 5 inch displays 720p is more than enough.
Everything bigger is just a waste of battery and power of cpu/gpu not to even mention any logical argument standing behind so ridiculous resolution. What does it stand for? A markeing? Probably.
15. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Samsung just don't have enough resources to compete with other companies. Sharp is beating Samsung very bad on display technology.
21. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Samsung destroyed a football field of glass to make a screen. Not enough resources? they have a MASSIVE R&D
23. wendygarett (unregistered)
You really need to read more newspaper before you speak...
24. raiabdullah (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)
for all of you Guys. this is not the HTC NEXUS 5. it's chines phone and company which is launching this phone.
45. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I would rather have the 720p screen than this. The reason is right now there is no promise that these displays will play well with battery power that is already being pushed to limits. This is a beasty screen that will suck some serious power. If you count the 4G LTE and all the other tech, say goodbye to battery life.
49. nacho69 (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I thought 300ppi was the limit for your eye to distinguish individual pixels, meaning that it would look the same to your eye going from around 330ppi to 443ppi? I'm all for a higher res smartphone but if we can't tell the difference and it uses more GPU/battery to run, I'll just stay with a 300ppi display. It makes sense for a tablet since we hold those further away. It sounds cool though, I would just have to see it for myself to be convinced that it looks better.