Samsung's annual strategy meeting to focus on war with Apple
by hiking them 20%. It seems like Sammy has already applied the war paint. On Wednesday, after meeting with the CEOs of Samsung's subsidiaries, the head of Samsung's mobile communications business, Shin Jong-kyun, said that the company will no longer negotiate patent issues with Apple.
The next chapter in the U.S. patent war between Samsung and Apple will take place on December 6th when a hearing will be held in front of Judge Lucy Koh to discuss a number of post-trial issues including Apple's request to triple some of the $1.05 billion in damages it was awarded by the jury, and Samsung's request for the judge to throw out the verdict and order a new trial based on alleged bias by jury foreman Velvin Hogan.
source: TheChosunIlbo via BGR
10. shy2papa (Posts: 202; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
Nuke that fruit, by making more cool products like the galaxy s3 and Note 2
20. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3326; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Cool is an opinion that I do not agree with.
22. Aeires (unregistered)
Kltpzyxm, how do you pronounce that?
37. lyndon420 (Posts: 1715; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Obviously...you're an ios user aren't ya? You wouldn't know cool if I hit you in the face with a snowball.
44. networkdood (Posts: 6262; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
What is wrong with cool - people purchased the iphone because it WAS cool...now they see that the iphone really is not the COOL anymore.
21. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Take a lesson from Woz... REINVENT and stop the upgrades. When that happens, I'll gladly say iPhone had innovated at least itself.
30. rawkuss (Posts: 29; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
it's funny how Samsung makes your beloved A6 Processor. Innovation, using other people's stuff and making a over glorified app launcher that has shown no real change in the last 3 years expect Siri. Everyone just sits there and talks to Siri for 10 mins and is over her.
43. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
My beloved A6 processor? I'm talking about Apple should reinvent the iPhone instead of upgrading the same old iPhone. Please respond with something relevant when you respond to others, unless you're responding to the wrong post.
48. rawkuss (Posts: 29; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Yeah, wrong reply ment for comment #18. sorry about that.
58. joey_sfb (Posts: 2765; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
True Innovation stop with iOS popularity. Ask yourself a question, if you have a billor dollar idea would you whisper it into apple's ears. No right!!
But your user is in the other end, inside Apple walled garden!!.
Internet freedom to innovate ends with apple's reign and popularity. Apple fan boy are sell out to true innovation.
28. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
What innovation? everything was stolen which belong to other's and stolen and bribed! Apple is no Evolution Revolution company, they are an R&D company which buys parts from others and put it on there device. You joker™®©
46. networkdood (Posts: 6262; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
That is true - try telling your favorite fruity company that...instead their motto is LITIGATE DON'T INNOVATE....
54. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Only if it is based on STEALLING and slapping Apple logo over it ... otherwise it is called copying :)
25. darkkjedii (Posts: 10552; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Apple rocks but less litigation, and more innovation would b nice.
29. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
True, also unresrict the ios aswell, make it a Linux™®© Apple and Android rocks.
51. darkkjedii (Posts: 10552; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
It would take a while to rewrite, and optimize everything for Linux. Don't ya think?
45. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Innovation will come when they do what Woz suggested. REINVENT.
52. darkkjedii (Posts: 10552; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I think that's a major reason for the shakeup
53. downphoenix (Posts: 2294; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
If only Jobs would have picked him instead of Cook...
36. the_best (Posts: 133; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)
let the wolves prey on the wolves and the humble will inherit the world =)
60. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5614; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Load up on supplies of popcorn and beer! This is going to be the Cage Match of the decade. Sammy and Apple are going thermo-nuclear on each other.
2. MeoCao (unregistered)
Not so fast, it looks like HTC is coming back so it will be dangerous for SS to ignore other competition than Apple.
8. muhsen (Posts: 245; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
htc is coming back????????????u can say nokia is coming back,sony is coming back,LC is coming back or even Rim is coming back.
htc produces very powerful phones and they r still going down. i don't know whats wrong with htc but people don't like it any more even with its very powerful phones but (i do like it though)
26. MeoCao (unregistered)
Look at DNA, the best phone on the market right now. I'm sold.
31. tomn1ce (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)
Yeah with barely any storage space and a puny battery...Good luck with that...
11. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1064; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
True but Sammy is focussing on innovation and based on articles available there is a safe bet that Sammy will have awesome flagship phones even in 2013...flexible dispalys, 1080p SAMOLEDs, exynos 5, etc but that being said war of any kind is just bad news for all parties involved and whether we liek ti or not the damages are always collateral.
Of course I am rooting for Sammy! As clearly none of them are gonna back down.
27. MeoCao (unregistered)
I like SS too, but I also want other Android OEMs to do well.
38. Aeires (unregistered)
My first three Android phones were HTC, the last three were SS, and in a few days I'll be owning a LG phone for the first time. If all we had was 1 OEM, it would suck.
3. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
Hell f yeah.
Samsung need to take it them.Apple is so the arrogant bully and need to be taught a lesson.FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT
4. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1229; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
It's just stupid... All the companies need to put their focus on making better product...
5. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
Samsung and HTC is doing just that.HTC gave in but Samsung isn't bowing down period.Meantime they're focused on their products being better such as the GS III and GNote II and possibly the GS4 .Apple is like a spoiled rich child that figures they made the first smartphone ,etc.I will admit 2007-2010 they were on top til Google and Android came on the scene and grind. Even RIM is making a comeback.sort of.
13. ithinkimjoe (Posts: 25; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
did you read this article at all? clearly Samsung is not. they're whole strategy meeting is focused on apple. not on making a better product.
19. Aeires (unregistered)
Yeah, they only have one meeting a year. Please tell me that's not what you think.
33. Deadeye37 (Posts: 77; Member since: 25 Jan 2011)
The executives' job isn't to design the phone and innovate. They have whole departments for that job. The executives' job is to strategize and map the future.
With Apple threatening to take up to $3 billion from Samsung plus future royalties, its a great idea to figure out how to beat them at that game!
The mobile phone department will still be guided by the vision of the executives, but they will be doing the brainstorming on how to improve Samsung's mobile phone portfolio.
6. Bernoulli (Posts: 1437; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
Hehe watch Jolla jump Samsung and Apple in a heart beat with MeeGo lol :)
7. bucky (Posts: 1343; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
They have decided to change their logo to a pear with a bite out of it.
9. bojan (Posts: 188; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)
htc is dead and soon apple will be dead in few years
12. Aeires (unregistered)
Apple should have never messed with Samsung. Apple could have enjoyed a rich supply of hardware and partnership of chip design but had to act like a child and bring out the lawyers instead. Apple missed the big picture, it wasn't Samsung allegedly copying the iPhone that made them successful, it was using Android and their constant focus on innovating it past the other Android OEMs. No lawsuit by Apple yet has slowed down Samsung or Android's growth rate, their court antics have just made a consumer base despise them because of their use of questionable patents and lawyer tactics. Hatred for Apple is at an all time high because of their poor decisions and now the sleeping giant is fully awake and getting ready for an epic battle like never before. Samsung vs Apple will make MS vs Apple look like child's play.
55. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
So True. Normally for whitegoods we prefer LG but this festival season me and my brother bought Samsung Plasma TV. Apple fails to realise that thesec ourt battles are only getting more customers to Samsung ... and making the lawyers rich on both sides.
But kudos to samsung for taking it head on instead of cowing down to the patent troll.
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 10552; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
From a full time apple user sometime android user.
It's time for apple to leave Samsung alone, get back to the lab and innovate. This crap sucks.
15. ithinkimjoe (Posts: 25; Member since: 19 Jan 2012)
Glad all the fandroids are in full effect not backing innovation. Glad samsung, the company that all these android users are praising are not planning on any innovation and instead wasting all the money the same customers are throwing at it on legal matters.
And samsung is outselling apple in terms of numbers of phones because they offer 150 different phones. and how many of them are on a current OS?
59. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Defending against attacks from a patent troll doesn't tantamount to wasting money on litigation. It's called self defense and there's surely a difference between self defense and mindless patent trolling just because of dwindling market share :)
16. oister85 (Posts: 394; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
I wanna know how many kids are writing in this article. It just sound so childish
17. Altair (Posts: 323; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
Samsung is a copycat. Now it seems, that S is also arrogant one. Earlier they declared about how "innovation is more important, than lawsuit".
Shame on you samsuck
34. Deadeye37 (Posts: 77; Member since: 25 Jan 2011)
And when not focusing on lawsuits results in a $1 billion loss, which could grow to $3 billion, have to start paying royalties to Apple, and product bans in a few countries. Is Samsung is supposed to sit by and ignore that?
Samsung has already shown that it can innovate, which is more than I can say of Apple as of late.
23. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
Exactly why i love Samsung....doesn't chicken out like HTC.. am proud of my S3 maker...
47. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Look at the profits and market shares between Samsung and HTC. Who do you think has what it takes to continue in a global litigation war with Apple? If possible, no one would bow to Apple and that's a known fact.
24. shamatuu (Posts: 121; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)
Go Sammy!. Good for them. I say put them out of their misery. They are such bullys. Google should team up with them. Double kill Apple for their crap. Apple can go to hell for all i care. Plus do it for everyone so we can be happy.
32. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)
well at least those CEO will be enjoying a nice vacation paid by the SGSIII owners, and to focus on Apple just like the haters here they focus on Apple too much and not so much on their prefer OS.
40. Droiddoes (unregistered)
OMFG dude! All you missed was capitalizing the first word of your post, and you would have had a full, complete sentence! Getting closer every day!
56. rusticguy (Posts: 2826; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
The IP designer's 17 million house was sponsored by Apple flock right?
You did not read even completely ... it's one of the agendas and not only agenda ... obviously how can one ignore a corporate terrorist who believes in calling everything as their own and want money for everything like those Somali pirates?
39. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
Best way to deal with apple
Release a new Nexus phone
Samsung GN2 form factor with a 4.8in screen adjusted proportionally
Remove S-Pen to Make thinner
Use latest spec's
49. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Just like Germany initially won the war in Europe in 1939 via its blitzkrieg - so did Apple initially win the fight in the consumer electronics market in 2007.
And just like Germany eventually lost to the military might and stratagem of the Allies - so will Apple lose to the combined might of the Android army.
And just like Germany was led by a fascist totalitarian regime which suppressed human rights and freedom of choice, so is Apple is led by a totalitarian regime which suppresses human rights at foxconn and spits at the basic principles of liberty.
And just like Germany which was defeated, kicked hard so bad in 1945, left utterly devastated after the war, with it's leader dead via suicide, so will Apple fall in 2013 and become such a small scale company that will mainly focus on accessories for MP3 players.
And just like the Allies which were led by the United States of America which fought for the very FREEDOM of mankind - so will the Android army led by Samsung fight for the very FREEDOM of consumers.
They will fight. And they will win.
History repeats itself.
57. Aeires (unregistered)
Earlier today I was thinking of the Japanese admiral who said they had the tiger by the tail when they invaded Pearl Harbor. I see Apple doing just that with Samsung, they really don't understand what they have gotten themselves into. I think it was a former RIM exec who said Samsung doesn't brush their teeth, they sharpen them. I think Samsung was overlooking a lot but Apple kept pushing and now Samsung is ticked off. Apple may be the richest but Samsung is the biggest and can absorb a lot through their other divisions if they really want to pursue this to a bloody end.
50. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
*Sets up speech podium*
"I have a dream..... A dream in which tech lovers of all races, creeds, colors, and religions, can enjoy technology of their choice. Their own choice, made by them, without the interference of the courts and all the bullsh*t patent litigation, I have a dream! I have a dream of a world where Apple users, Android users, Windows Phone users, and yes, even Blackberry users can come together in harmony and enjoy their technology without prejudice or ridicule, I have a dream! Can I get an AMEN!"
*Steps back from his poorly paraphrased MLK JR speech and passes out*