Samsung Galaxy Nexus release date on Verizon set for Nov 21st?
1. superguy (Posts: 288; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
I don't believe it until I see Verizon announce it, or it shows up on their website. Been too many let downs with dates.
34. Synack (Posts: 677; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I wonder how much this is going to be retail, because that's what I'll be paying for it. Droid Charge is now up on eBay LOL.
4. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
And they better hurry up and release the damn thing. If they do actually have any exclusivity, then everyone else is waiting for them to launch so they can launch it too.
Oh wait.. conspiracy theory time. IF VZW actually has a timed exclusivity.. say a month.. maybe they are pushing it back on purpose to make sure their launch exclusivity window includes christmas to reduce chances of people going to another carrier and increase people going to VZW for the phone.
Just a wild eyed theory, but i wouldnt put it past them.
7. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
That actually makes more sense than anything I had thought of.
23. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
good theory remix.
i came in to post that it wouldnt make much sense to launch on monday with no prior info. i expect on monday they will announce the launch date of 11/28 and either announce the preorder or start taking preorders.
and that would make the the month fall exactly past christmas...
33. LewsTherin006 (Posts: 140; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
knowing verizon, you are prolly right. They just released some killer phones, and want to end the phone release spree with the phone that they passed the GS2 for, the nexus. They need to hurry up and release it, i want to get it for Tmobile.
32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It would be nice for the G-Nexus to be released on the 21st. I would make a point to visit the local VZW store to spend some time learning about ICS so I can know what to expect when it gets rolled out for my RAZR next year. Things are popping in Android land.
56. Kmack (Posts: 26; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)
what do you mean let-downs? *coughbioniccough* :P
3. newman69 (Posts: 14; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
ANYWAY IT'S UNOFFICIAL INFORMATION~~~DAMM
I NEED NEXUS ASAP
5. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
Seriously though, Google and Verizon really sh!t the bed on this one... it's a phone, not medication, just release it already
25. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
while, im upset its not out yet, im still waiting. as are many. i dont think theyre losing many sales at all due to the delay. and what sales they are losing are to the razr and rezound, which vzw would probably rather have you own anyways.
42. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
That might be true, but it's hurting google's brand since they're tied to this phone directly. I hope they remember that next time they get the idea to sign an exclusivity contract, as short as it might be...
Verizon is the tip of the spear on the product launch and they're duller than ever.
6. nicodek (Posts: 4; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
Well as much as I want this phone I'll be debbie downer and point out the Nov. 21st date on theverge was in the article about the UK release and followed a comment about how it was silly to only sell it in one store on launch. So it's possible the google confirmation that it would be available "almost everywhere" on the 21st was only in reference to UK sales.
Also verizon only ever said it would be available by the end of the year and the google/samsung announcement didn't say (IIRC) to the US in November only that it be out in November and it is but sadly only in the UK.
8. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
i still say only a 5mp cam on a flagship phone with ICS is horrible :/ what other flagship only has a 5mp camera instead of a 8mp. h*ll the droid razr in china has a f'n 13mp camera and the same screen as the nexus
13. superguy (Posts: 288; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
MPs aren't everything. If the phone has better optics and software, a 5MP camera can produce a better picture an 8MP camera. Would you rather have a 12MP DSLR or a 14MP point and shoot camera?
MPs are good mostly for scaling and printing. You can make a much bigger print with a higher MP camera.
14. baldilocks (Posts: 737; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)
MP ratings have NOTHING to do with camera quality. I can't believe some of you still complain about that... :shakes my head:
18. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I'm sure megapixels have something to do with camera quality or else there would be no measurement for it.
I guess it would be more accurate to say that after a certain number of megapixels, the camera confronts the law of diminishing returns and other factors become more important, such as optics.
20. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
megapixels measure image size, not picture quality. That is more involved with software, features, and over all actual camera hardware like the aperture and lens quality.
MPX means NOTHING when talking about quality... only size of the picture.
21. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
So are you arguing that if I had a 1 megapixel digital image from a camera with excellent optics, that it would be equivalent in quality to an 8 megapixel digital image from a camera with the same optical technological capability?
If the answer is no, then relegating megapixels to a non-factor status would be inaccurate.
I would agree that number megapixels have a limited contribution to the final quality of an image, but to say it has no impact whatsoever is simply not true.
24. bellringerbrew (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
That is exactly the case.
If I take a 1mp sample out of a photo taken with an 8mp camera, the photo taken with the better optics will win every time.
However, if I try to enlarge a 1mp photo to the same size print as I can make with an 8mp photo, of course the quality will suffer.
MP is simple a measurement of the number of pixels in the file. If it helps, think of it as resolution. There is a point where a poor quality screen with high resolution will still look worse than a high quality screen with a lower resolution.
27. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Lol, the final statement is laughable considering the nature of computer technology.
In the computer world, the number of bits define the level of depth of a particular medium.
1 bit - 2 colors
8 bits - 256 colors (.gif image)
16 bit - 65536 colors
32 bit - 4.29 million colors
320 kbps variable bit rate
In digital technology, saying the number of pixels a camera captures is irrelevant is contradictory fundamentals of the digital/analog paradigm.
That's why there is usually a sweet point in digital technology. Once the digital depth reaches of level beyond human imperceptibility then there is very little need to continue to advance the capability.
For instance in gaming, the human eye regards motion as smooth at the rate of 30 frames per second (fps). However display technology for a long period of time only rendered images at 60 Hz-75 Hz, possibly 85 Hz. This made it almost unimportant to have a GPU render beyond the rate of 60 fps.
And the difference between a 1 megapixel image and 5 megapixel image is easily perceived by the human eye. However going from an 5 megapixel to 8 megapixel image (granted that the camera hardware is at a constant of good) would be less perceptible.
35. bellringerbrew (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
So if I presented you with a photo taken with a 1MP camera and a 1mp crop of the same subject taken from a camera with an 8mp sensor but identical optics as the 1mp camera, you could tell the difference? Of course not as the 2 pictures would be identical (they both will have the exact number of pixels with the same subject matter).
As a photographer, the advantage to more MP is having more to work with when editing, NOT the quality of the photo. I can make larger prints, or tighter crops the more pixels we have to work with - assuming the photo is of a high quality to begin with.
Keep in mind we are really talking about the difference in a 5mp vs. 8mp cellphone camera, none of which have very high quality optics.
36. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
A 1mp photo and a 1 megapixel crop of a 8mp, I would say yes, I could tell a difference because they wouldn't be the same photo. I mean fundamentally they would have to be different right? Thus not identical. The number of megapixels would be the only thing that is identical...
38. bellringerbrew (Posts: 3; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
They could very simply be essentially the same shot, I would just have to "foot zoom" in for the photo.
What is so hard to understand that MP is simply a measurement of the number of pixels, not the quality of the photo.
This horse is dead.
46. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Could you name something that I said that was idiotic?
49. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Great article! It was very informative. I did not realize that film was that much superior to digital cameras.
41. McLTE (Posts: 804; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
You guys are completely missing the whole problem with the megapixel race!
\"So if I presented you with a photo taken with a 1MP camera and a 1mp crop of the same subject taken from a camera with an 8mp sensor but identical optics as the 1mp camera, you could tell the difference? Of course not as the 2 pictures would be identical (they both will have the exact number of pixels with the same subject matter).\"
Depending on the lighting conditions, YES.. I absolutely can tell the difference. As the light levels decrease, the camera sensors that have FEWER pixels (the 1MP camera) have a big advantage!
The reason is due to the sheer number of pixels. You have to understand how a digital camera sensor works.
Consider that the physical sensor size remains constant.. and it is REALLY small in our phones.
The digital camera sensors are laid out in a grid to put it simply.. and for simplicity sake, we\'ll say that each square in the grid corresponds to a pixel in the finished digital photo.
Each square on the sensor grid is called a photo site.. it\'s job is to gather light, like a bucket gathers water.
It\'s pretty simple.. the MORE light you can gather and use.. the better your images will be in ALL lighting conditions.
your 1MP camera sensor will have 1 million photo sites or buckets, but they will be very large and able to gather a lot of light.. which is especially important when the lighting gets bad.
Your 8MP camera has 8 million photo sites or buckets.. great right?? no. You now get the same amount of light overall, but it\'s spread across 8 million photo sites.. so each photo site gets MUCH MUCH less light to work with.
When lighting is great, like nice and sunny outdoors, it\'s not a big deal.. but as the lighting gets wors, say for an indoor birthday candle shot.. the camera sensor needs as much light as it can possibly get.. in this case the 1MP sensor will do FAR better than the 8MP sensor because it can collect far more light!
This is exactly why as our cameras keep getting more and more MP.. the quality of the indoor pics goes down and down.
I have always argued that 3-5MP phone camera sensors are ideal.. the sensors are SO tiny that increasing the MP beyond that just hurts the final image.. This in turn makes it even more unlikely to have a pic worthy of enlargement.
48. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Lol, I was never arguing that megapixels were the most important factor.
I was only arguing that you cannot say it is not a factor at all.
In that case there would be no reason to increase the number of megapixels a camera captures.
I'm sorry, that is as logical as logic gets.
I'm an engineer and well aware that in order to create the best product you have to strike a sweet spot amongst all factors -- some factors being more important than others.
If megapixels were not a factor, then I could randomly pick any megapixel count and it would NOT matter -- hence the definition of something not being a factor. Matter of fact, why not go for the cheapest megapixel count, since it isn't a factor, we can save more money.
I'm a person that recognizes the importance of accurate words. And I stand by my original statement, at a point the number of megapixels reaches the law of diminishing returns just as everything else in the universe.
51. McLTE (Posts: 804; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I do agree with you terabyteRouser
yes.. megapixels DO matter.
I just simply believe that for these TINY camera sensors in our smart phones.. there is a happy medium for quality and megapixels. For me that\'s around 5MP.
The problem is that marketing and the public thing.. OMG.. it doesn\'t have 13MP.. JUNK! really having no idea what they are talking about. The average consumer thinks bigger is better.
The same thing happens with computer processors. Consumers get stuck on numbers, then the manufacturers just feed into that by continuing to placate this demand.
Until the technology improves greatly, I will stand firm with my belief that these 8+ MP sensors are a total waste.
I am still very happy with my 3MP blackberry pics.. I\'d love for the manufacturers to invest in lense and sensor technology to get these sensors approaching SLR quality.. not just in MP count.
37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
bellinger already answered the question, but the shrot answer is yes, if the pictures were take at the same resolution, the one with the better hardware/software will always beat the one that has a higher megapixel number.
43. evo-ninja (Posts: 31; Member since: 23 May 2011)
yal makin my head hurt, an I'm a photographer, you can't make anyone understand wen it's all about the numbers to them, those who know knows, those who don't don't, that's the game of things
45. krysis (Posts: 76; Member since: 14 Dec 2009)
yeah mps don\'t mean a whole lot... buuutt reviews are saying the camera isn\'t as hot as what it\'s been made to seem like. yeah, it has zero lag, but it still has mid and low light issues.
47. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, its still a phone camera, dont expect miracles.. :)
15. newman69 (Posts: 14; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)
5mp? it's ok because I always bring my Nikon D300 anytime~ 5mp is not big deal~~~
9. dudemanrod (Posts: 39; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
the sgs iii will be out before this thing is launched
10. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
So, have you heard the latest rumor on the Galaxy Nexus 2?? JK!
Hopefully, my time I can decide on a Verizon phone, they will still have the double your data deal.
17. Goldeneye (Posts: 419; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
Mmm, hopefully they don't end that promo right before the Nexus launch
12. Netolic (Posts: 144; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Motorola droid razr 2 will be out before this
19. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Learning from others on this site, I think Verzion is afraid of the quite likely probability that there would be many RAZR and Rezound owners returning their phones for Ice Cream Sandwiches.
22. nicodek (Posts: 4; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
If that's the case then we won't see it released this year since Verizon extended the return period on Tuesday to January as part of their holiday routine.
30. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I guess that renders my analysis futile.
31. nicodek (Posts: 4; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
Not necessarily it would just mean that verizon didn't intend to release the nexus by years end.
26. android1234 (Posts: 133; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
is there going to be 2 different versions or just a 32 gb version
28. android1234 (Posts: 133; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
verizon is selling it for 299 so I'm guessing it's going to be dead 32 gb version
29. android1234 (Posts: 133; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
The*** not dead lol, Google voice text lol
39. ap1989 (Posts: 145; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)
I hope they do release it on the 21st. Im tired of waiting now about to buy the HTC rezound
50. kpfirefighter (Posts: 160; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
I don't think people will return the other two phones due to the fact they have to pay a charge and the HTC and RAZR will get the ice cream update early next year! I'm pushing the 21st. I'm sure they are tired of alll the complaints. Besides they will make a crap ton of money on this phone for the holidays. Nice little bonus for the verizon overhead!
52. Lionheartcahc (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)
i actually posted this exact thing in another topic yesterday. i was at a verizon premium store and was told and shown that the galaxy nexus will be available on the 21st.ship date was today/tomorrow in stock date(date it goes in the system) for Sunday the 20th and for sale Monday 21st. so this is as excited as I've been for a while about this. i hope it is not another let down though and have it fall through last minute. and it looks like the only one available for verizon will be 32gb and will have a 1850 battery. fingers crossed!
i called again today and spoke to another employee who said the exact same thing and he will call me when they get the phone in.
53. terabyteRouser (Posts: 457; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I hope so! I've been waiting since I returned that crappy Bionic.
54. kpfirefighter (Posts: 160; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
This is all false information! I have called three verizon stores and each one has said no they are not getting the phone on the 21st. Not only that, if the phone was acually going to be here monday don't you think there would be a lot more coverage on it's release. They are playing games again!
57. Lionheartcahc (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)
yes unfortunately i got a call from the manager and he said there is a delay in them getting the phone and they are not getting it this weekend. i asked what happened and he said it was a mistake in their system and that they are getting the accessories in this weekend...??? LOL!! i guess we'll all just have to wait and see.foiled again! i swear if this phone doesn't come out before my contract is up(dec 13th) i'm waiting until the s3 or the next big htc phone launches and i'm leaving verizon.
55. kpfirefighter (Posts: 160; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Just looked on the verizon website and there isn't anything there anout the nexus either!