Reader's choice: HTC One (M8) outscores Samsung Galaxy S5
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Reader's choice: HTC One (M8) outscores Samsung Galaxy S5
3. User experience
1. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2156; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
No wonder. M8 deserves it. I'm still surprised how many voted for M8 camera... OK I know it's just for trolling but still.
3. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1184; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
They are just the M8 owners out there haha. Having a M8 myself, I have to say it's not that impressive.
30. Beijendorf (Posts: 274; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)
It's extremely fast in starting and following shot-to-shot times and is consistent across the board regardless of lighting conditions. The Samsung Galaxy S5 isn't quite as fast and usually performs horribly in low-light conditions.
In good lighting conditions the M8 camera pales in comparison to the S5 though.
I just thought I'd give my 5 cents as to why I think the M8 deserved some of those votes it got.
39. Furbal (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
Yeah. I've had the s5 since release and the m8 for about a week. The m8 is a much nicer phone other than the camera so far.
Converted it to GPE though to get rid of ATT bloat.
2. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1184; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Sadly... S5 will outsold M8 by a long shot... Good job on the phone though HTC :D
20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7272; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Okay, having owned both for over a month, this is what I can conclude:
1) Design - Obviously the M8 wins, but when I used it with out a case, it's slippery and the bottom bezel is annoying. Because it's made of the aluminum, I have significantly notice a huge drop in reception and signal quality compared to the S5. There are areas, especially at my job, where I'll have one or two bars where I'd get four or five on my S5. WiFi strength is where I'm confused. At the same exact location, my S5 pulled 108mbps but the M8 only got 50.
Display - I might be a little bias when it comes to this since I joined the AMOLED team back in 2012, but the display on the S5 is bar none the greatest... You can definitely tell the blacks on the M8 are not true at all. Whenever opening the app launcher, you notice right away. I definitely prefer the over saturated colors as they catch my eye more than "natural" colors. Now as far as outdoor visibility, S5 wins by miles. The coating Samsung used on the display and the ability to achieve 698nits of brightness allows me to use it when the sun is directly beaming on it. Now don't get me wrong, the M8's is great, but for all the hype SLCD3 receive in terms of brightness and visibility, I don't see it. (If you turn on Power Saving Mode and set the brightness to 100%, good luck using the phone outside.)
User experience - Okay, this is completely subjective and can be different from anyone. I personally enjoyed Sense 6 and always felt it was snappier than TouchWiz. Now granted, TW never lagged on my S5, the M8 would slightly put perform it in opening apps. I definitely missed the Sense weather clock, BoomSound, FM Radio, Keyboard, and now the option to unlock the phone by swiping up or left is definitely neat. But, I feel TW has these little features (or what almost everyone calls gimmicks) that are actually useful. Picking up the phone and being alerted you have a notification, direct call, and Ultra Power Saving Mode (literally my favorite feature) are more useful to me. UPSM on the S5 can lasts 12 days on sstandby and can get you roughly about 18-23 hours on 10%. EPSM on the HTC One doesn't work.. at all. My battery drained 7% in an hour, having LTE disabled. If I were to rank the two, user experience is a tie.
Camera - No competition. 16MP vs 4UP is a no brainer for me. Having the extra mp allows me to crop photos without losinf too many details. The M8 produces better whites IMO, but the camera isn't bad at all. It's really one of the things the phone gets judged in so much but is usable to almost everyone. The photos are bright, capture detail, and definitely look great if you just post photos online (Facebook, Twitter, etc.).
With my experience with both, I'm switching back to the S5. The UPSM, battery and camera made me jump back. (This is the longest comment I've ever posted on PA haha.)
24. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2156; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
I get that the S5 is the best for outdoor visibility and I agree that it's an important thing.
But I think many people overreact to other phones inferiority in that aspect. Just because even though I know that the Z2 is maybe around average in that part, it's still clearly visible under direct sunlight and I can use it without a problem.
Good comment BTW I read the whole thing lol.
29. Doctorluv (Posts: 2; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)
I bet all the persons who voted for the M8 dont have one...
49. chebner (Posts: 113; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Ummm, I have an M8 and voted for it. I've had the M8 since launch.
I gave the nod to Samsung for the camera but the other three votes went to the M8.
I agree the Aluminum is slippery but I've never dropped it out of my hands. It has fallen out of my hoodie pocket a couple times whrn bending over, the S5 probably wouldn't have fallen out in that situation. I see no need to use a case, it has a couple small scuffs from the drops, but it still looks new.
I much prefer the more natural colors on the SLCD. I don't mind the oversaturation on the Samsung so much, it's the inaccurate (blueish and yellowish) colors that I just can't stand.
As I said for the Camera I did vote for the Samsung because in most situations it will take a better picture. That being said, the camera in the M8 is perfectly acceptable. If I want to take a high quality photo, I'll pull out my D610.
57. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
You, and few other M8 owners , can not win this (useless)poll, without the great help of the iboys here.
PA know that, but this is their game, too.
65. chebner (Posts: 113; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Hey Taco? Is that you? Did you finally turn all your Steve Jobs and Apple love towards Samsung?
55. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
You are right. MOSTLY iboys here are voting for M8 to fight with Samsung, and to "prove" that the cheap aluminium tin can is "premium". LOL And iboys are always majority in tech sites.
Useless poll . Useless article.
67. chebner (Posts: 113; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Are you going to go home and cry to mommy because your Samesung lost this poll? I bet you'd be singing a different tune if the S5 would have one. "this is the best poll ever!!! We showed those iboys!!!"
Sorry you got me wrong. Not an iboy here. The last Apple I owned was a IIe. Do you even know what that is?
31. skyline88 (Posts: 282; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)
M8 wins overall, S5 feels more compact in hands which I dont really know why, M8 feels more premium because of material used.
M8 is miles behind S5 in terms of display.
3) USER EXPERIENCE.
Unless you are a freaking geek wannabe, TouchWiz is obviously better for majority of users. Straight-forward interface without the need for guessing what is what, how is how.
From photo to video, from sharpness to clarity, S5 got it all over the miserable M8 with whatever UltraPizza.
Used both since the first day they arrived in my tiny lil' shop, before switching back to Note 3 (primary) and my good old Lumia 920 (backup).
33. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2156; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
Isn't that UX part just the other way around?
41. Dejavu_LT (Posts: 18; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)
I don't know why EPSM on you HTC M8 doesn't work, because on my M8 it works just perfect :) For example, yesterday, at 11am my battery life was around 24% and i enabled EPSM. At the end of day (i was making some calls, for around 30min, few times checking email and wrote couple of sms), at 10pm my battery life was 15%. I heard that on samsung UMSM works even bettery, but i'm quite satisfied with EPSM on my M8 :) Talking about user interface, i had S3 and S4 and my experience with touchwiz was just horrible. Lags, lags, lags, lags everywhere. Maybe S5 have better touchwiz version, not sure, but one thing i know for sure - sense 6 rocks! and i'm not a geek at all, my phone not rooted and so on:) Camera better on S5, that's for sure. Screen..not sure, i guess S5 and new amoled version is great, but i have no complaints about SLCD3, it's way better than amoled on S4 :) And design.. i love that metal feel on my hand, and maybe it's not most practical design and materials, but it's just more premium, that's why it beats S5 any day :) Sure, it's just my 5 cents :)
42. amro99 (Posts: 76; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)
i own M8 for over a month now & today i had the privialge to get my hands on a friends fresh GS5. here is my observations and thoughts after playing with GS5 for about an hour:
design: M8 is far ahead and much more unique (compared to samsungs boring design for over 3 years)
Display: here is what confuses me. all i have heard about S5's screen has been "beautiful" and "the best" but it really wasnt the case for me. at least when try to look at it from extreme sides. my friends blue wallpaper would immidiately turn into green which was enough for me to miss my M8's superb screen. i understand that the owner of this phone will be looking at it from proper angles, but ....
Speed: the touchwiz was nothing close to flat or less confusing as described by some people. the setting area is simply designed to confuse. everytime i was pressing the home button, there would be blanck home screen and then the widgets appearing. something that has never ever happened for my M8.
Camera: S5 will definetely win in daylight shots, i have no idea about the dark scenes.
there might be so many things (some are not gimmicks really) that s5 can do and M8 cant. but continious lags, and confusing UI is what i see and feel much more than those stuff.
After all i think the reason so many android users are fed up with Android and shifting to IOS (yes, there are so many) is because of them using samsung phones. currently samsungs note series is the only ones that deserve the attention and praise they are getting
68. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
You see? The apple propaganda confuse even you. When you say M8 has better design. You don't dare to say the truth;
IT'S THE WORST TECH DESIGH, EVER.
Aluminum is not design. And it's the worst material for smartphones(reception, slippery, and easy to dent)
50. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1184; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Kind of is a big deal... If HTC can themselves in black, then they can keep providing us with amazing phones. However, if they keep themselves in red... one day they won't be there anymore.
8. Vexify (Posts: 144; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)
I thought sales figures don't matter.. people confuse me on this site.
11. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2279; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Correct Sales figures are always welcome whether it is iPhone or any other phone.
17. michaelmicro (Posts: 11; Member since: 22 Jun 2014)
Checked and validated sales figures matter as we would then be able to say, once and for all, which smartphone is the very best in the world, with absolute proof that it is the best.
28. HTCOE (Posts: 406; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)
outselling a device does not mean it's better lol
43. gaara6775 (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 May 2014)
Yea its same like saying Justine beiber is best singer as he sell millions . lol
70. simrob (Posts: 4; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
S5 only out sells HTC through product placement and advertising, walk into any Best Buy and Samsung and iPhone own 90% of the sales floor and accessory floor space all anyone walking in there see is iPhone and Samsung, there blindly lead into what to buy in the three BB store in the Syracuse NY area you cant even find or get a dot view of flip cover case for HTC but they have every color and style for Samsung so don't base the higher sales volume on all the people that buy what they see in front of them.....
Buy the Way Samsung PAYS FOR THAT FLOOR SPACE AND PRODUCT PLACEMENT
22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7272; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Definitely isn't. It's inferior to the AMOLED panel.
6. TisaTsir (Posts: 51; Member since: 06 Jan 2014)
That's an obvious answer. If HTC ONE (M8) had a 16Mp camera, then it would be the best smartphone of 2014.
7. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1184; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
They should have spend the money and put in a nice Sony sensor.
60. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
NOT AT ALL.
The camera is not the only flop there.
The obvious answer is that all iboys here voted for M8 to fight Samsung and "prove" that aluminium is "premium"/
10. swayze91 (Posts: 28; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)
Both phones deserve kudos. While I really love the quality the M8 delivers overall the S5 does have the better camera. I don't hate the Ultra Pixel camera it just didn't yeild as good a result in my use as the S5s camera did.
But hey bravo HTC! Well earned!
61. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Putting M8 BS in the same article with S5 is already advertising for HTC.
12. yahia_malka (Posts: 39; Member since: 27 Mar 2014)
M8 deserves , anyone has seen PhoneBuff gs5 vs m8 ? , gs5 processor is better but m8 went faster with 13 seconds!!!!! , its much faster and its design is excellent
62. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Next time send us to CultOfMac. LOL
71. Rocky1978 (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Jul 2014)
Wow, you are really pissed that your phone didn't win, huh? LMAO! That is really pathetic......
52. chebner (Posts: 113; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Not me, no need. I went case free on my EVO 4g LTE for two years with no issues. I see no reason to put on on my M8.
14. Ummay (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Mar 2014)
I don't know what to say , I just feel sorry for those who have voted for S5 in the design department.....
19. maccess (Posts: 560; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
I feel sorry for metal fetish like you.. Nothing wrong with s5 design..
53. marcski07 (Posts: 141; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
the whole samsung phone design are all wrong, they all look galaxy S from low end to flagship, and they are all ugly
54. marcski07 (Posts: 141; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
and i don't mind if it is plastic material, but please, make it look better, just the likes of z1 compact, and one e8, and many more plastic design that are beautiful and unique, samsung is stingy because they don't wanna waste money on fabricating different design, that's why they all look the same!!
64. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 442; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
You don't know what tech DESIGN means. Right? (if you say M8 seaked brick has great design)
69. marcski07 (Posts: 141; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)
yes I don't, because i'm not a geek, you got a problem with that? i'm just simple human being with little knowledge in tech space, i'm just an enthusiast of technology, from desktop, tv, smartphones etc. and what i want to look first about a product is the design, and samsung is ugly from top to bottom. despite their monster specs inside, because their design is not attractive stylish and elegant to look and that's a deal breaker for me. and i don't like htc either, i don't care about the boom sound and metal, i don't like the dual camera... i rather prefer the one e8 (the plastic) but again i don't like the front panel because the imbalance of bezel and ugly looking long grill for speaker. I ran after beauty and style, + performance. there are plastic devices out there, you can name may, but they make their phone look stylish and elegant e.g experia SP, z1 compact, huawei g6, p6, nokia's, and many more! samsung are dull, boring, cheap looking device, and cloned from different sizes! the note looks good because they have different design language, but also is becoming boring, note 3 is beautiful with the faux stitched leather. and that's it...
23. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7272; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I should have voted for S5 since the plastic never interfered with the signal strength with or without my Otterbox Defender.
72. Rocky1978 (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Jul 2014)
That's funny, I've never had a signal problem on my HTC One M8. My wife has a plastic Galaxy S5 and our signals match perfectly on AT&T. Hmmm..........
15. WhiteWaterOzc (Posts: 2; Member since: 12 Feb 2014)
please make a comparison between sony xperia z2 and htc one m8~~~~~ highly appreciate~~~ tq
16. twens (Posts: 513; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
They voted for practicality not design as in looks. A phones beauty still lies in a plastic case. So beauty or design is subjective. At the end when I buy android I buy for features and performance, s5 had both and that's why it outsells the htc. Classic or fashionable looks are for apple. If I want a phone based on beauty and UI smoothness I will look at iPhone. Till then sammy is king when android is at heart.
18. youlookfoolish (Posts: 110; Member since: 14 Dec 2012)
Owning both phones, this all seems pretty legit. But I understand why some people voted for the S5 in design. The m8 is a chunky phone. The thin and light weight of the S5 appeal to many people.
21. banglazbless (Posts: 24; Member since: 05 Feb 2014)
If only all htc could sell some phones. All this accolades and still no one's buying, I wonder why? Look htc can win all the awards, what matters more is sales and if that's not happening, then there's a problem.
25. ryq24 (Posts: 466; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
If only HTC can turn that into sales. Something they can't seem to do.
26. Slammer (Posts: 920; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---"In this area, over 80% of users chose to express their liking for the One (M8)'s premium, all-metal design, in favor of the Galaxy S5's dotted plastic. Next time Samsunggets down to designing a flagshipphone, maybe they should take this observation into account!"---
Why do tech sites and it's editors consistently fail in observing the contrary?
The small band of readers that are mostly consisting of tech enthusiasts, make up a very small percentage of the mainstream users that have voted with their wallets. The Samsung S5 has become the undisputed choice regardless of what is felt as "Premium build." This is far more important than trying to fix something that is not broken. The HTC variant has missing ingredients that mainstream users find unattractive or we would see a more relevance in sales. Many left HTC after the EVO LTE due to HTC's lack of key ingredients.
Maybe these editors should be listening to sales instead of trying to get the successors to listen to the editors. And the failing companies should be paying more attention to the ones that are succeeding. E.C. LG has begun to view the landscape that non-removable batteries are a dying novelty. People are getting tired of forking over excessive cash for battery issues. That is why myself and many of my colleagues have switched to Samsung. Consumer access at far cheaper cost for repair. Why waste insurance claims on something the consumer can do themself?
When HTC realizes why we diehard customers left, maybe that will provoke more interest in its products.
34. alias3800 (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Jul 2014)
Sales has everything to do with marketing/advertising, not tech websites OR raging fanboys. And correlation shouldn't be confused with causation here - just because Samsung is selling well doesn't mean they're producing the best possible product for the consumer. Apple is (and always has been) selling well and they've never opted for consumer-friendly batteries. Does that mean all companies should follow in their footsteps and eliminate removable batteries? No. Consumers aren't following the best products (per se), they're following the best advertisements. Anything from product placement to commercials to even word of mouth and customer service. The majority of these sales aren't coming from people who can't wait to change their battery in two years. Point is, attractiveness and batteries are not the reasons HTC is sinking, or conversely, why Samsung is doing so well. Nevertheless, tech websites point this stuff put repeatedly because, for the benefit of the consumer, the better product is the sturdier one, I.e. the aluminum builds or harder polycarbonate. Consequently those are the ones that feel more "luxurious"