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NYU Poly already looking towards 5G networks

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NYU Poly already looking towards 5G networks
We're still in the middle of the whole 4G debate, where the original definition of 4G has had to be changed because of too much false marketing by big carriers, but that isn't stopping researchers from looking into what 5G mobile networks are going to look like. In fact, researchers at Brooklyn's Polytechnic Institute of New York University aren't just looking into it, they've received $2 million to make it a reality. NYU-Poly announced Thursday that it has received an $800,000 grant from the National Science Foundation, and that grant has been matched by $1.2 million from various corporate backers. 

Not much is known yet about how it will all work, but the theoretical idea is to use the millimeter-wave spectrum to create a mobile network that is 1,000 times faster than 4G, and can handle 50-100 times more traffic. Of course, these claims don't mention what flavor of "4G" is being used as comparison. The original definition of 4G had been for speeds of 1Gbit/s down and 500 Mbit/s up, but those numbers have been altered to include what T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon call 4G, which can be far far slower (sometimes close to 100 times slower actually). 

The millimeter-wave spectrum would be the key, and it has a couple of benefits. First, it can handle the traffic, and second, it is completely unused right now. So far, it has been 2G which used spectrum up to 200 kHz, 3G which is up to 5 MHz, and 4G up to 40 MHz. The millimeter-wave spectrum is found between 3 and 300 GHz, so it has plenty of room to grow. 

Of course, none of this will come to pass any time soon. The research team at NYU-Poly is hoping to have the technology operational by 2020, so we've got another 8 years before we see anything. Still, we're pretty sure that carriers will likely start misusing the term 5G well before then.

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posted on 23 Jul 2012, 17:59 8

1. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


holy smokes batman!

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:57 9

22. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


The iFans will think the ip5 is a 5G....
stpd dm idts §he¿ps.....¡

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 03:26 2

32. serious9010 (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Why would they think that? Do fandroids think that galaxy s2 uses 2G network because of the "2" in the name?

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 09:04 2

38. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


when the iphone 4 came out everyone thought i was 4G, same thing happened with the 4S. its almost a guarantee that someone, some day will walk into a wireless retailer and ask about the "iPhone 5G". ive heard some pretty crazy things about the next installment of the iphone.

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 10:44

43. serious9010 (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Yes, that is true. SOMEONE will. But is that a good enough reason to generalize it to all iphone users and call them ifans? That is arrogant, don't you think? (I apologize if my English isn't correct)

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 12:41 2

44. rajamass (Posts: 10; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


The iFans will think the ip5 is a 5G....
stpd dm idts §he¿ps.....¡///

ROFL Very True

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 12:48

45. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


i didnt generalize all iphone users as ifans, because i have an iphone. just some people choose to believe in technology that cant necessarily be utilized in hand held devices just yet.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:04 10

2. _VipeR_ (Posts: 47; Member since: 30 May 2011)


Just call it G5 cause we flyin!

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:30 3

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Any guesses which carrier will be the first to mis-use the 5G nomenclature? I would nominate AT&T, based on past performance.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:38 7

4. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


5G will have 4G speeds......

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:40 3

16. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


T-Mobile actually was the first to misuse it...

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 21:21 4

24. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4g#History_of_4G_and_pre-4G_technologies
sprint was the first to misuse it in the US with the EVO 4G in June 2010 and WiMax network, then Verizon followed suit with LTE, and AT&T and T-Mobile with HSPA+ (and LTE later). "4G" was used by Asian companies first

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 09:09

40. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 162; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)


actually the first to misuse it was a Russian Carrier Called Yota with the HTC Max 4G

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 09:57 1

42. pats4thewin (Posts: 29; Member since: 10 Jul 2012)


even though its correct info, i like how the proof for correctness was wikipedia :P

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:41 8

5. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


any guess who will build the first 5G phone? and how many will think the iPhone 5 is 5G capable

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:46 9

6. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


i had a girl tell me that the new iphone will be transparent and another kid told me that it will have a projection keyboard. i LOL'd

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:47 1

7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Any guess of how long before Apple calls their iPhone 5G? How about when they release it this Fall?

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 19:32 2

11. DaNTRoN (Posts: 135; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


funny. same thing happened in my training class for work. i just dont see why ANYONE would believe an iphone would be transparent of all things. any transparent phone would suck imo, i just think if a company made on it would be a company that makes more that one phone a year.. HAHA all you get is transparent

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 09:10

41. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 162; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)


I would Guess HTC because they built the first commercial "4G" phone in the world and the First LTE phone for Verizon

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:49 3

8. THEOG (Posts: 20; Member since: 12 Jul 2010)


Networks are just now building there 4g networks and some or more then 6 months old.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 19:54 4

13. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Some don't even have any yet.

**T-Mobile**

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:30 6

15. Aeires (unregistered)


Only if you limit 4G to LTE.

T-Mobile's 42 Meg HSPA+ is far superior than Sprint's Wimax.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:40 5

17. cptbeatstix (Posts: 101; Member since: 19 Jul 2012)


Also another fact, T-Mobile's 42 HSPA+ network is beating Verizon's LTE network in 11 of 15 Major cities in data speed. Just waiting until January when the LTE Advanced is out.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:48 1

19. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


that is faster than ur home Wifi....
You lucky Americans!
We don't have 4G in UK....

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:54

21. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


When ever i see you'r avatar, i keep laughing...

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 21:24

25. SkOne (Posts: 95; Member since: 02 May 2012)


you sir are 100,000% correct

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 05:16

34. smartphonemad (Posts: 42; Member since: 10 Jul 2012)


I know D: I read somewhere that O2 would try to get 4G by sharing it and Vodafones network but that was last year :/

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 08:27

37. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Yeah but there's like 5 people with T-Mobile in each city... and 20,000+ people with VZW... so.....

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 19:01 2

9. darkvadervip (Posts: 365; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


Wow this has nothing to do with apple but you all telling jokes. I guess the next google update will be call CRASH DUMMY or CARE BEAR.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 19:21 6

10. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1733; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Weak post, try harder next time

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