Flagship Windows phones coming later this year, possibly alongside Windows 10 launch
1. Neros (Posts: 1016; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)
700-800bucks for a phone with an ability to set a wallpaper as its killer feature. Gl with that MS. You really need that sd 810 for editing word documents, lol. With nokia here available on google play, lumias have nothing interesting to offer.
2. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
We think Microsoft is finished on the market. Nokia is coming back in 2016. If the 940 or wathever is announced in march it will be available in june to august.
Microsoft have only 6 months to convince people to buy their devices with no Nokia name. Nokia is recognized all over the world.
And Nokia the Ultimate King is coming back with Android and High Quality Hardware and Camera in 2016 !
Microsoft didn't even talk about Windows Phone much say they have no hope. Sad. The Floper is being Floped back !
5. Neros (Posts: 1016; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)
Exactly my thoughts on the wp platform. The pretty much gave up on their phones. Absolute lack of much needed software changes. Shame on you, MS.
23. arenanew (Posts: 277; Member since: 30 Dec 2013)
nokia come with china camera and laggy os with poor hardware and put nokia name
33. BobbyBuster (banned) (Posts: 854; Member since: 13 Jan 2015)
Nokia is already history, and WP10 will mark the end of CrapDroid.
43. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
2.7% and falling, kid.
Should've left Nokia alone...
45. freetail (Posts: 18; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
We think this is being short-sighted :-)
A lot is riding of course on Windows 10, but if you haven't already seen the announcement yesterday about Continuum coming to Windows Phone 10 handsets, or the ability for iOS and Android developers to port their apps over more easily, then you're missing the 'wow factor' that will make this a truly revolutionary development. Imagine a phone that doubles up as a decent laptop replacement when you're out and about, and having all the apps you have been missing on the Windows OS, across every device. Hop on, hop off. If the magic that's being talked about comes true, then it will be worth the wait and Android / iOS will have something to truly catch up to.
I have to say that I have been TRYING VERY HARD to like iOS and OSX. Alas, I just can't get to grips with it. It all seems rather complicated (and I'm a tech savvy chap) compared to the ease of Windows and not intuitive at all. It's also very expensive by comparison - only 5GB of iDrive thrown in on a £600+ iPhone? That's crazy. Still no touch / pen inputs on the latest MacBooks? Why? And still having to enter passwords all the time on an iPhone, even when I want to download a free update from the App Store? I don't get it. Predictive text / keyboard on the iPhone is a frustrating experience. Installing software on OSX is bizarre and gives options that the average user simply doesn't need to know about (see package contents, etc). Having to tap one or two too many times to action something is annoying (1) Select from the App Store (2) 'Get' (3) 'Install' (4) enter password. Why can't I add a new Folder in the Finder when I'm saving a file there (Save As, create new folder) or change the name of an existing file whilst I'm there?
I have really tried, honestly, to embrace the 'i' world (and I was an early adopter of Apple products up until around 5 years ago when the intuitive interface appeared to be falling apart. Since then, I moved to Windows (PC, Surface, Phone, Office 365, etc) and haven't looked back. It's exciting times. It lets me do what I want to do, in the way I expect it to (mostly) and the future looks impressive.
How is Apple really looking to maintain its good fortunes (read, stay 'relevant'), other than through selling their hardware: Macs, iPhones (mostly) and iWatches? Sure, they're playing in other arenas, such as energy and they continue to push into TV / Music / Films / Mapping (without too much success) but they don't have a developed cloud strategy (something that Google, Amazon and Microsoft have) or much more going for them. A huge chunk of their revenues comes from selling iPhones. What happens when (not if) they start to become less relevant as others move on the idea of what a 'smart phone' really is?
Anyway, my point is that Windows Phone isn't a standalone product anymore (for all those who say that Windows Phone is dead). It's simply another device form factor for Windows 10 - and that's exciting!
3. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
What's another nine months?
In light of their history, it's just another brief moment in time for IT to arrive.
4. jellmoo (Posts: 1486; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
What about the One M8 for Windows Phone? Granted, it's not all that new either, but it's still worth mentioning.
7. theguy2345 (Posts: 1182; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)
No one wants to recognize that is the the flagship windows phone at the moment. I have one, and I love it. Truly a great phone with my favorite OS. It's just all the Lumia fanboys don't want to acknowledge it for whatever reason. It really bugs me, because I am a windows fan, not just a Lumia fan
8. Suo.Eno (Posts: 480; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)
Don't have to be a Windows fan to appreciate it. Android user here and yes I think that the M8 for Win is the best Win phone around too. HTC did a huge favor to MS imo.
9. theguy2345 (Posts: 1182; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)
In many respects, it beats out the other phones on just pure numbers. Really the only thing that is weak is the camera, which I almost never use. Many of the Lumia fanboys aren't even real windows fans and just refuse to listen to facts. They just like Lumia. It's the same as the galaxy fans.
11. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1590; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
I'll go one further. First, I have a Lumia 1520 but in terms of features, the M8 and especially the Samsung Ativ SE both smoke my 1520 on features. Yes, I have a much better camera than the HTC and enjoy the Lumia-specific apps but the SE's camera is no slouch. My wife has an Ativ and we can shoot pics from either device and not lose out on quality.
Yes Virginia, there are other Windows Phones besides Lumias. Just because Microsoft isn't releasing any flagships soon doesn't mean one of the other OEMs won't. LG is supposed to be coming back to WP as well as a new device Lenovo.
52. freetail (Posts: 18; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
I'm not so sure I can agree with you on this. Given the views of many (typically those who don't use the platform) that WP is an inferior product, I'm not sure why anyone would use WP if they weren't also enjoying the Windows (Microsoft) eco-system. Samsung doesn't have an ecosystem of its own so the comparisons are irrelevant. For my part, I use Windows across everything and love the integration of product and services. To me, it seems to be moving in a better direction and as the 'new kids on the block' (believe it or not) they're in a good position to start afresh, from the ground up, whereas the others are constantly trying to bolt new things on, which ultimately can lead to a rather disjointed affair.
18. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Because Lumia = what WP is supposed to be.
The M8 is an Android One phone running WP on it. It isn't its own identity.
19. Crispin_Gatieza (Posts: 1590; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
There was Windows Phone before Nokia, there will be Windows Phone long after Nokia.
HTC made the One M8, not Android. They can put whatever they wish on their devices.
34. NFSHesham (Posts: 257; Member since: 04 Feb 2014)
The problem with it is simple : UNAVAILABILITY
it is not available anywhere except for USA
Therefore the Lumia 930 is still WP flagship as it is available everywhere
37. NFSHesham (Posts: 257; Member since: 04 Feb 2014)
Here in Egypt,
There is only one device currently being sold that is running Windows Phone and is not called Nokia/Microsoft :
Archos 40 Cesium
and I am not joking, there is really no WP devices but that and lumias
And this is an entry level device
4 inch WVGA display
QUAD Core Snapdragon 200
512 mb ram
5 mp Autofocus camera /LED Flash
2 Mp FFC FF
1700 mAh battery
And it is about 15$ cheaper than a Lumia 530
6. Suo.Eno (Posts: 480; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)
"Let's hope the wait will be worth it."
Bah.. Lost 2 hours of my sleep waiting for that "phaptop" showcase for none.
10. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1524; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I think that Microsoft will debut at least 1 Windows 10 ready smart phone at MWC 2015
the catch phrase is "Windows 10 Ready" and the Question is will this MS Lumia high end smart phone be a Replacement for a 920, 930, 1020, or a 1520. Time will tell
26. elitewolverine (Posts: 5076; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
They are all windows 10 ready, all win8 phones are win10 ready. And with the insight program, you can get it after the superbowl at a non-specified date.
13. harigrg33 (Posts: 181; Member since: 20 May 2013)
Reason i shifted from nokia to android is lack of first party app. If ms provide first party apps like youtube, instagram, facebook, twitter etc than surely they will do wonders...
27. elitewolverine (Posts: 5076; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
YouTube first party is not all that great.
tubecast, no ads, 60fps support with 1080p, 4k support, can play behind other apps as they run, play while you search in a separate window. I don't miss this first party YouTube craze by any stretch.
Facebook works just fine, Instagram? what more do you need outside of 6tag. Twitter...sure but twitter has never been my thing.
The biggest for me is a bank app, funny enough androids bank app for my bank is a webwrapper, so no point.
What I miss is games that others have that they want me to download, then again I don't game much on my device, rather fire up the pc or xbox to game.
48. freetail (Posts: 18; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
For me it's not even the first party apps that worries me, it's things like banking apps or apps I use for other services (like phone IP, TV, connected devices, local events, shopping, etc, not to mention games - if only to keep up with my daughter on her iPhone... her family loyalty has much to be desired! :-) ). Allow WP to have ALL the apps that Android and iOS enjoy, and it's a no brainer for me. Chicken and egg... we've said it a million times. Develop for the platform, and they shall come!
14. TreyTreyTaylor (Posts: 609; Member since: 21 Dec 2010)
All I'm going to say is good luck with that.
16. Elfmonster (Posts: 405; Member since: 23 Dec 2013)
I was a Microsoft fanboy forever until I got sick of their nickel and diming me for bloated crap prone to viruses and freezing issues. I tried an MS phone at a mall. I have to say I was shocked at its crapiness and missing some of my favorite Android work apps. I am for real sad ms can't get its crap together to disrupt the industry. That's the thing - they need to reposition as the disruptor, aggressive pricing on high end gear, with a pitch for app developers and more options to personalize phones than Android. That kind of brazen reinvention is their only Obi Wan Kinobi.
17. HelloMyNameIs (Posts: 18; Member since: 02 Dec 2014)
My thoughts exactly. That's what's kept Microsoft on top during the 1990s-2000s.
22. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
They need to turn their user experience to the user and not anymore towards their service. Even if I will NEVER go back to this monopolistic Microsoft software sh*t (I curse everything which is proprietary Microsoft and we know Google made the right choice in promoting open-source which is future proof - not because its Google but because we have the choice to customize how we want what we bought) well
I have to say the only reason I quit Microsoft is not only because of their Elop shameful guy but they wanted to copy Apple which is the dumbest choice they ever made for their user base. Maybe if Windows Phone 8 was like 6.1 and Android I would be on Windows Phone actually but now they lost 99% of their phone users and convince us to come back on their closed monopolistic source will be the hardest thing to do for ever and ever again.
We are no more goats as in 90s when it was Microsoft or nothing products.
28. elitewolverine (Posts: 5076; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I rather support a company whos top 5 patents are related to technology, and not ads being shoved in my face...
44. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Yeah, because imploding companies from the inside, buying them on the cheap and stealing makes Microsoft a good corporate citizen...
49. freetail (Posts: 18; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
I really don't understand the comments about personalisation. You can personalise a WP more than any other (tile sizes, positions, colours, notifications, the lot). Less 'widgets' but for me, these aren't pretty anyway and can't all be displayed on the same page. The idea of having to scroll left and right to find what you want all the time, or add additional pages because you can't collate similar apps together is an odd concept. You can add folders, sub-sections, headers... whatever you like. Like snowflakes, I doubt any two Windows Phones are the same.
20. megathaszrul89 (Posts: 112; Member since: 08 Jan 2015)
"But we, along with the minority of Windows Phone fans out there, will surely have our patience tested until then."
25. snowgator (Posts: 3556; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Where I was going. I know this is not really a journalistic haven, but WP users make up a good share of PA readership. That was an unnecessary dig. Unprofessional.
I have been hanging out on PA since 2010, and posting as a member for 4 years. I enjoy this site as a great place to get general news, as I am interested in the business of Mobile.
Yes, I know my OS of choice is not Android or iOS. I do not need to be reminded on every write up. Guess I just need to decide if other sites will offer me what I like to get news on.
29. elitewolverine (Posts: 5076; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
windowscentral is far better for news. I come here because its a crack habit.
39. megathaszrul89 (Posts: 112; Member since: 08 Jan 2015)
true, i'm here because i've been here since 2011 (ya, i know, not as long as most of you). but i can see the trends where WP users won't find any good WP news to be read here.i'm a fan of anything good and beneficial,including WP itself :)
50. freetail (Posts: 18; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
Appreciate your comments Snowgator. Certainly more considered than many here... but par for the course I guess
40. isprobi (Posts: 627; Member since: 30 May 2011)
Didn't Microsoft lean anything from BlackBerry? Not keeping up with phone trends almost killed BlackBerry and they were at the top. So even with all of Microsoft's resources if people decide their platform is irrelevant they will struggle too. I think that the next year will be crucial to determining whether Windows Phone ever becomes a serious rival to iOS and Android. How ironic it would be if BlackBerry with BB10 takes a solid third place and WP loses.
51. freetail (Posts: 18; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
Despite my other postings, I share your sentiment about device development. BlackBerry didn't develop a new device for 3 (or was it nearly 4) years, which ultimately left people feeling rather detached and looking for a newer, more relevant experience. I know Microsoft (and others) have been releasing lower-end devices, primarily I guess for the developing world and our 'Mums' but time doesn't stand still and a new Flagship every 6-12 months is really a must in this fast moving industry. I really do hope that we've got something a little special to look forward to in the Windows 10 Device line-up, or the experiment is going to get a heavy slap in the press (not to mention us, the loyal advocates)