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Asus to use Qualcomm chipset in this year's Google Nexus 7 tablet

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Asus to use Qualcomm chipset in this year's Google Nexus 7 tablet
Qualcomm's CMO might have been on to something when he dissed NVIDIA recently saying that Snapdragon will catch up with the ground it lost to Tegra in Android tablets.

Rumor has it that Google might be switching to Snapdragon for the next iteration of the Nexus 7 tablet line, instead of using Tegra 4, for instance. The idea is to save on logistics, as Snapdragon is a system-on-a-chip package, meaning that the broadband radio is included in the chipset.

The tip comes from an analyst, whose supply chain sources indicate that besides a Full HD screen, Asus is prepping for a chip replacement with its Nexus tablet, from Tegra to Snapdragon:

Supply chain conversations indicate two reasons for Google’s selection of the Snapdragon APQ8064 over Tegra 4: competitive pricing, and a decision to single-source the application processor and 3G/4G modem to simplify logistics and create a fully pin-compatible platform interface,” declared McConnell.

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posted on 08 Feb 2013, 02:38 5

1. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


mmm, i don't think so. they'd lose the Tegra Zone gaming support and the integrated baseband radios aren't really so important for something like the N7.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 02:58 4

3. wendygarett (unregistered)


My question is, will Google still appoint Asus to make tablets?

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:02 6

5. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i guess. Google wants the best and ASUS still kind of is the best Tablet OEM and they can build for cheap. o:

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 07:35 2

22. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


crap, didnt mean to press the dreaded red thumb xD. but your right, Asus is by far the best Tablet manufacturer so why wouldn't they? especially as good as the OG Google Nexus 7 was last year.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 12:31

24. Taters (Posts: 3518; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I disagree. The Nexus 7 and infinity had some major build quality and performance issues. Mostly from Asus insisting on cutting costs by using cheap and slow I/O memory.

LG or Samsung should definitely do the next Nexus 7. Since the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 are both amazing devices and the Nexus 7 is just alright.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 16:21 1

26. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 888; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


While that is true, the slow I/O was fixed on the 32GB Nexus 7. Oh and Samsung doesn't have build quality problems? Let me laugh for a sec. Just write Note 10.1 build quality on google and see.

posted on 09 Feb 2013, 03:18 2

28. zazori08 (Posts: 113; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)


samsung not having build quality problems?!

Give this guy a round of applause!

posted on 09 Feb 2013, 09:26 1

29. ngo2dd (Posts: 790; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


This guy is a hardcore fanboy. Everyone has issues expect for Samsung to him.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 02:39

2. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


y u no exynos octa core?

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:23 5

11. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1372; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


Samsung is not given the chance to make the next nexus 7 , so they are a bit reluctant to give away their best technology to some other brand that will definetly be a rival to their galaxy tab series

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 15:36 1

25. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


Its not even an octa core lol. It is 2 processors on the same board. Have fun with your new heater if they ever do make phones with 2 processors.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:00 8

4. BattleBrat (Posts: 1147; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


I posted this before, I'll post it again;
Nvidia Never had the most powerful chips, but they have done more for android gaming than the other companies. What you hardware hounds fail to see is that the Tegra 4 itself is pretty much overkill, as is any other latest gen mobile processor. How much do you really need on a 5" 1080 screen? What needs work is the gameplay, and just as important, control. Few android game developers provide controller support, Nvidia (and Ouya) are working on it with Shield with OUYA, is Qualcomm? Is Sammy? Nvidia is the one working on making Android a gaming platform. And for that Nvidia has my support. I have an Xperia Tablet S (Tegra3 ) and a sony Walkman Z (Tegra 2) and they play games BEAUTIFULLY You may also Notice that these devices have lower res screens, I think that Retina screens are over kill, my walkman 840 x 480 screen ( i believe) playing Samuri 2 JUST as pretty as my iPod Touch 4th, Anything beyond 720 on a phone and 1080 on a tablet is just wasted horsepower (maybe 1200 on larger tablets)

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:04 6

6. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i completely agree. i want my next device to have a Tegra 4 for those reasons. from here on out it's really more about the support for me. o:

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:14

9. wendygarett (unregistered)


And I don't understand the hype of powervr gpu... My dad own ipad4, but several sluggish when playing temple run and even the cut the rope...

I will try the tegra 4 and see, is tegra 4 support lte?

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:26

12. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1372; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


the icera 500 4G LTE chip is coming as stock on Tegra 4 soc's

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:31

14. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


well the PowerVR series is kind of all that. maybe it was the games themselves? Cut the Rope usually works great for me but Temple Run has been pretty notorious for buggy behavior for me.

yeah, the Tegra 4 has integrated LTE.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:45

16. wendygarett (unregistered)


Not just that, wild blood and need for speed as well :(

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 04:30

19. omarr (banned) (Posts: 149; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)


I have ipad 4 and it is perfectly fast ..........

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 19:43 1

27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5633; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


why is this getting thumbs down?
even fanboys who deny the 4th iPad's speed are foolish...

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 06:51 1

21. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 888; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


+1 I have a Tegra 3 smartphone and i couldn't be happier, great games and just so much horsepower for normal tasks that it never slows down, also the fifth power saving ninja core makes the phone use little to no battery when in stand-by which is a very good feature IMO.

The only problem with Tegra is that it seems to have many haters, i seriously never understood why, as Battlebrat posted Nvidia is the only one who cares about Android gaming and it shows on the THD optimized games, it might not have the brute force of the PowerVR GPUs but it can run games that are as beautiful despite having less power. I have seen many people say "Mali 400 pwns the Tegra3!1!1!!!" But that isn't entirely true as they trade blows with each other on GL benchmark, Tegra has its flaws so does Mali. Also the bad performance on Gameloft games is just because they are lazy and just port iOS games, they have never bothered about Nvidia and that is why the games sometimes run bad on Tegra devices.

posted on 09 Feb 2013, 22:03 1

33. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4103; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Let's just hope we don't have another Tegra 2 incident. Nothing got updated past ICS, and I can only think of 2 devices that did get ICS. It was that little fiasco that gave Motorola a bad name with updates, with all the angry Atrix and Droid X2 owners.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:07

7. Piotrek007 (Posts: 80; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


I can't agree with the res... As for now 720 is very good, but why shouldnt we get better if samsung said that 1080 uses less power than 720... let it be 1080 then.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 04:07

17. tedkord (Posts: 5113; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You need the same power you'd need for any size 1080p screen. The size is irrelevant, its the same number of pixels being pushed. If you want smooth framerates, you need a gpu that can handle it. No mobile gpu today can give you 60fps in an intense 3d game at 1080p.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:08

8. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


That's awesome, but will it be nexgen Qualcomm for the entry level tablet?

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:18

10. MC1123 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


will it be pricey? since it will now use Qualcomm chips? I feel sorry for nvidia.. they lost another costumer!

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:27 1

13. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1372; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


it might cost a bit more , the chips will cost the same ,but the new screen,more ram and a rear camera might add a bit

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 03:35

15. jove39 (Posts: 1320; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I would really like to see tegra4 in next Nexus7...nvidia have icera500 modem to bundle with tegra4 and I think gpu on tegra4 is also better than adreno 320...moreover...google should keep diverse platforms in their devices...it helps to build better custom roms for other devices on same platform.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 04:23 1

18. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1040; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Daniel, the APQ8064 is not a "a system-on-a-chip package, meaning that the broadband radio is included in the chipset" as it does NOT include broadband radio.
So please correct that.
The reasons to go for a Snapdragon APQ8064 are probably: more performance, in particular in GPU. Less power consumtion as it is built in 28nm while Tegra 3 is in 40nm.
In other words: Tegra 3 is too weak, and Tegra 4 is too much for a 7 inches tablet. APQ8064 is perfect as it's somewhere in the middle.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 04:57 2

20. nikenturd (unregistered)


TEGRA IS OVERRATED.period. My HTC One x was a dog....then when I sold it for a Note 2 my gaming experience was soo much smoother.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 09:41 1

23. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 888; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Actually that is HTC's fault not Nvidia's. I own a One X and it is HTC's stupid CPU governor that messes up game performance. An example of this is the Nexus 7 running games better than the One X. I now have a custom kernel on my One X and the games are running smoothly.

posted on 09 Feb 2013, 09:31

30. ngo2dd (Posts: 790; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


You know gaming is base on GPU and not CPU. Your custom kernel may overclock the GPU. In the computer work the GPU is key for gaming.

posted on 09 Feb 2013, 13:02

31. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 888; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


The ignorance is strong with this one. What are you going to say next? That memory speed and bandwidth also doesn't affect games? Don't talk about stuff you don't know, we aren't talking about computers here. Do some proper research about the subject you are trying to talk about first.

posted on 09 Feb 2013, 14:35

32. Taters (Posts: 3518; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)


I can see that there are a lot of but hurt Asus fanboys here. No, Samsung doesn't have build problems. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 was flawlessly built and Asus has screen lift all over the place.

Just read the Xda forums on the Nexus 7 and infinty. People were on their 7th RMA for both. The last thing you want is Asus to design the next Nexus 7.

Even their brand new Asus Vivo tab RT has slow I\O memory still. They cut corner period.

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