Apple's Tim Cook reportedly in discussion with Samsung for AMOLED display in the iPad 3
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the source said: “Apple wants to tap into Samsung’s AMOLED technology for an upgraded version of the iPad 2, considered by many as the iPad 3 that is likely to be launched toward the end of this year”. The source went on to clarify that Apple even offered advance payment to secure production, something that it usually does in scale, elbowing out the competition.
Well, we needn't say that this goes against everything we've heard so far. Legal battles between Apple and Samsung aside, we had the chief of the OLED Association Barry Young saying that 7" and larger AMOLED displays are not coming until much later this year, when Samsung has sufficient capacity from its new 5.5-Gen factory, and that was before the Japanese quake devastation. And sufficient in the case of Apple will mean millions upon millions, whereas the factory will be able to make 48 000 substrates per month this year, rising to 100 000 in early 2012. Not to mention that we had Samsung itself confirm that it won't be having a tablet with AMOLED display this year.
Could it be that The Korea Herald source has meant Tim Cook wants in on a new LCD technology of Samsung, of which the Koreans recently showed off a 10" 1600x2560 pixels prototype? After all, the same newspaper wrote exactly that in February this year, saying that Apple wants a PLS-LCD display from Samsung for an iPad 3 in the fall.
If the previous rumor was from the same source, how did we arrive at this one for AMOLED displays for tablets now, given the scarce production capacity and reluctance of Samsung to lend the technology to anyone else, much less to what it now considers its biggest competitor in the smartphone and tablet world?
We'll file this rumor about Apple's elusive AMOLED iPad 3 in the "believe it when we see it" shelf, and stick with the more plausible scenario that Apple wants to equip the next iPad with something in the lines of the 1600x2560 pixels 10-incher of Samsung. Given Cupertino's recent troubles with LG's inability to produce enough quality displays for the iPad 2, a change of supplier is entirely possible.
Moreover, we know that Apple achieves its high operating margins by prepaying for components on a larger than anyone scale, thus lowballing the price, and squeezing suppliers' margins to the minimum. Samsung knows that very well, as it supplies a lot of components for Apple's products, and it would be surprising if it surrenders a technology that gives it unique advantages, like the AMOLED displays, of which it can't even produce enough for its own gadgets.
source: TheKoreaHerald via SlashGear
1. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
YES! Please! My iPad 2 is awesome, but I could only imagine watching a movie where you can get true blacks (racist!) in the video. Plus, I love how vibrant AMOLED screens make colors...FINGERS CROSSED!
2. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4703; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Wow can you believe the nut sack on Apple's part. They take Samsung to court & STILL want the AMOLED screens. I hope Samsung says no & puts these screens on their devices. Apple thinks’ their s*it don't stink. Let's see how much Samsung makes Apple pay for the screens if they do sell it to them. I just don't see this happening. If it does Apple will pay a hefty dollar for those screens!
Apple is crazy!
6. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Apple is Samsung's biggest client...It would hurt their pocketbook a lot to lose them...
10. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4703; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Exactly charge them an arm & a leg to offset those bogus court costs Apple is making Samsung pay! Samsung can sell the AMOLED screens to Asus, Acer, Motorola, RIM, HP, & anyone else who makes tablets just so you can teach Apple a lesson in humility! Samsung doesn’t need Apple, Apple NEEDS Samsung! Get it straight!
11. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
its funny that you say that, all of those manufacturers COMBINED, don't come close to selling the amount that the first iPad is STILL selling hahaha, I can find more iPad's on Craigslist than all of those tablets at ANY retail store :)
13. missed the mark (unregistered)
so you are saying Apple has sold more tablets than all those combined and that more people are dissatisfied with that purchase also? I do not find your statement as a positive thing.
17. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
iPad 1?? lol the only reason theyre being sold is to get the iPad 2, douche hahaha
18. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4703; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
You are so talking BS. Look don't speculate & give real world numbers. RIM playbook is selling very well. Asus Eee Pad Transformer is selling very very well. Acer's tablet is selling well also. I can keep on going. Plus these tabs all just came out. Give them a year like the iPad 1 & then let’s talk. Android will be #1 in tablets too, as they are #1 in the Smartphone market! It’s only a matter of time. lol I think you are just stretching your facts into the world of fiction. From the looks of it you sound like the "douche" as you call it. Let me guess, that is the only bad word you can say without your Mommy getting mad at you! Right? You sound like a kid who's balls have not dropped yet! Let the big boys blog & go play with you little pony or whatever. lol
23. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
funny you mention the playbook, from what i've read, it hasnt sold as well as it was projected, to top it off, its a 7" screen, isnt there a 5" phone? whats the point of a "slightly bigger" screen? have you actually held one? youre still on Google's nuts with that? no android is an operating system releasing about 5-10 phones a month and none of em sell because they only get minor upgrades, sure the iPhone is still the same shape and OS, with what you might call "minor upgrades" but the android OS doesnt even improve, it stays the same unles you root the damn thing, but ok, go play with your little widget SuperFagAndroid, and at least come at me when you get a real phone...the Evo?? really?? lmao I work for sprint bro dont try to come at me when you have a crappy ass phone whose 4G speeds get MAYBE to what my 3G iPhone 4 gets. Lol first 4G phone, whose 4G runs slower than a good edge connection does...wait IF youre in a 4G market :) youre funny...
30. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4703; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Did you ask permission your Mommy to blog again? Did you feed your pony also? I know you don't work for Sprint because you would know WiMAX is as fast or faster than the internet from a cable provider. Let me give you a link: (http://www.4ginfo.com/index.php/how-fast-is-clear s print-4g-wimax.html) educate yourself. This is about tablets regardless of size. Samsung should sell the AMOLED screens to everybody regardless of size. Just to teach Apple a lesson. Here is another link about the BB Playbook: (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Analyst-predicts-R I M-will-sell-450000-PlayBooks-this-quarter-2.3-mill ion-for-the-fiscal-year_id19109) as you can see it's selling very well so again you prove you are a moron! This article was only on PhoneArena.com so how stupid can you be. It’s only the same website you are posting your dumb ass comments. SuperFagAndroid is that the best you could do, I guess your Mommy helped you with that one right? My HTC Evo 4G has had 4G for over a year, killing your iPhone whatever model toy you have. Your next iToy opps iPhone what 4S or 5 STILL won't have 4G. My HTC Evo 3D with its 1.2 GHz dual-core, 1 GB RAM & Android 2.3 will eat your iToy any day, why you ask because it isn't a toy. Plus I will have glorious 4G unlike YOU! Just so you know where I live I have wonderful 4G coverage. And you, who knows cause your iToy is only 3G. LMAO Now you can go consult with your Mommy & please don't forget to feed the pony. :-)
34. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)
koo you can believe what you want, sure, those speeds are there IF youre in a great coverage area, which isnt many people except for main cities and only in some places around those cities lol, dont believe me? go to the clear forums and see how many people complain about their "4G coverage" ask them how many times theyve been told by tech support to "try putting their modem in the bathroom" lol youre just another Fandroid tool, but koo man keep telling yourself what you want :) just do me a favor, go outside your city, speed test your phone with 4G on, then do it with 4G off and on the 3G network, see which speed is best kthxbye :)
21. ph00ny (unregistered)
I thought sony was samsung's biggest client
46. ranjyot (unregistered)
just 2 correct u apple comes after sony..
3. Mehha (Posts: 26; Member since: 25 May 2011)
Go beyond AMOLED Apple! We know you are the innovator of new tech,,, Bring something that we have never experienced before :)
But try to keep the display little short, keep it down to 7'' or maybe 8'' this time in ipad3.
4. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
your comment confuses me? is it sarcasm?
22. jroc74 (Posts: 5593; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
You know most of that innovative tech from the iPhone 4 was made up of parts from other folks, not Apple....probably for the iPad 1 too.
If anything, they are the innovators of old or current tech.
62. bobby2680 (unregistered)
apple isn't really an innovator they are just good in making a big thing out of existing tech...
5. Vijay S (unregistered)
@Mehha - Since when did Apple become an innovator of new tech? I thought they are experts only in repackaging old technology into new devices and hype it up so that the countless fanboys pay for them thro their nose and flaunt "magical" things.
7. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Isn't that just typical? "Hi, we're Apple. We'll sue the shit out of you, trying to stop you from producing anything that competes with our products and costing you billions of dollars, but we still expect you to bend over for us and give us your best technology, which we'll then relabel as part of OUR innovation, taking most of the profit to be had from it as well. What do you say, BITCH?"
55. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
are u kidding me... u know how much money samsung makes just supplying apple.. they make more money then they do selling their phones...
56. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Hello? Did you pay attention to the boatload of money Samsung is making now that they're selling smartphones that are worth a damn? Their profits have skyrocketed. It's been explicitly said that Apple pays as little as possible to its suppliers. How do you not get this?
57. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
ummm do not understand that they still make a crapload and even more then their skyrocketing phone business... i never said those things were doing bad or that apple paid them excessively...
61. NeXoS (Posts: 286; Member since: 03 May 2011)
That was once true when iPhone had dominant market share. Now, that all other Androids are dominating market share, they would make MORE money selling to all the other Android manufacturers and tell Apple to EFF OFF! Or, else sell the displays to Apple at 1000% market up!
9. skymitch89 (Posts: 1214; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I find it funny how Apple is suing Samsung, but at the same time Apple and Samsung are working together for parts on Apple's devices.
27. ph00ny (Posts: 791; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I wouldn't call it "working together". That's like saying we as a customers are working together with apple because we buy their products. It's more of a straight forward customer and supplier relationship
12. Momoto (unregistered)
We're past Super AMOLED Plus or any AMOLED. AMOLED burn-ins? No thanks.
Next gen is all about Toshiba's new LCD 720p mobile display.
14. missed the mark (unregistered)
My guess is that Apple is trying to strong arm Samsung into selling them technology. Sell us your better product or we will follow through with this lawsuit!
28. ph00ny (Posts: 791; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Pretty much sums it up. If they weren't happy with the design, they would have sued when the galaxy s products first launched all over the globe
15. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
teh answer si simple...is pure business and you android boys dont understand.... u speak from the heart and thats wrong for business... Apple can sue anyone they pleased.. they pay for services.. and if you are in bussiness you take the money ..pride doesnt pay the bills
29. erilalia16 (unregistered)
Please be careful with AMOLED technology. "Burn in" screen has been a concern since the beginning of AMOLED (and all kind of OLED screens). Ghost images and lost in brightness are often described in many websites as a concern for AMOLED phones, often after a few months.
One for example:
Here is an example (same thread as above) of the measure for AMOLED screens continuous lost in brightness (10% lost for blue after 96 hours):
LCD kind screens don't have such issues in normal conditions.
31. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Geez, fandroids really believe this article to be a fact, lol. Haven't you fandroids learned anything about articles written about Apple's plans for their future devices? They're usually false. And here you guys are posting comments against Apple as if there's confirmation of this already, lol. Are you fandroids that dumb that after all these years of following Apple articles (eventhough you guys hate Apple), still don't get it? You fandroids probably also believed that article about Apple releasing an iphone with a slideout keyboard huh? Hahahahaha. Or that article about Apple releasing an iphone nano, hahahahahaha. You fandroids talk shit about Apple all the time on articles that end up being false in the end. You fandroids almost always eat your own words and come back again acting like you're so sure of yourselves, lol.
Apple PREFERS IPS display technology. Amoled displays don't use IPS technology. That's a fact. Why? Because that statement came from Apple, not from some news article from Korea.
32. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Considering that other parts from Samsung are used in Apple products, it's not surprising that Apple would approach them for screens as well. And the lawsuit against Samsung is still bullshit.
Gemini, you can call us anything you want. But the fact remains that you're wrong about 90 percent of the time when you go up against us, just like a religious Apple worshipper would be.
The article could be false. But if it's true, our comments are relevant.
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And you're commenting on an Apple article yet again???? Don't you have motoblur to keep you busy?
35. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You have no right to tell me where I can and can't comment, Taco. That is all that need be said on the matter.
37. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
And when was I wrong? Did I make any predictions? Accusations? Speculations, yes. But do you ever see me on android articles making predictions and accusations? Nope. That would be you on Apple related articles making harsh comments and accusations on articles about Apple that aren't proven to be facts.
You see sniggles, lol, we can only speculate on things, or guess. And yes, I can be wrong on some, but I was never passing judgements like you do as if everyone should take my OPINIONS to be facts, unless I can provide factual statements from reliable sources, which would no longer make it an opinion but rather a fact.
Yes, Samsung does provide Apple with some hardware parts, but can you tell us for a fact what those are for the next iphone or ipad? No you can't. So be a little cautious with what you post. Although I think you already know that, but still you attack Apple any chance you get, even when you know that what is said about Apple may be untrue. Right? Haters do hate :)
41. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Do you really want me to go trawling through old articles and find instances of you being wrong? Because I'll do it.
53. arena (Posts: 18; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)
I agree. Haters will hate no matter what. Nothing that Apple will do, no matter how good it is, would appease haters.
36. andro (unregistered)
Apple fanboys now suddenly praising samsung screens while earlier criticizes them in jealously in galaxy s and s2 line ups! Funny how apple likes to sue samsung and childishly get a court order to obtain and spy on samsung products but then buys all their parts
39. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Apple buys all their parts from Samsung? That line alone tells me how ignorant you are? Let me ask you this. Who supplies the camera, display, glass casing for the Apple's iphone? Is it Samsung?
38. koolaid (unregistered)
@ superandroidevo & applegayboy sorry i mean applefanboy- to be fare with everyone applegayboy the only TRUE 4G is sprint- wimax. they coined the term 4G because their wimax towers are actually called 4G. ATT Verizon and Tmo all have copied the term 4G meaning generation- when att and Tmo only use HSPA+ and big red has LTE same with ATT but currently att doesnt want to spend the money to actually use the technology they already bought, but thas neither here nor there. If apple wants to use the amoled screens for the ipad2.5 then why did they jump so quick to implement retinal displays into the ipad2. its all a money game, they suck samsungs dick for a lil bit, samsung "busts" and gives them what they want and you APPLEGAYBOY i mean fanboy, will then go out with your mommy after screaming for 3 days, crying, and hitting your head saying I NNNNNEEEEEEEDDDDD IT!!! IF I DONT HAVE IT I WILLLLL DIEEEEEEE! after shelling out 550-800 for a new ipad2 just cuz you want one with a retinal display. crapple had this planned the whole time to double their profits. so i mean come on it wasn't a surprise that they are planning an upgrade to the ipad2 and have another ipad3 inj the works for tomorrow. its apple being apple raping the us public and the world. hell yeah steve jobs you and your 100 year old saggy ball sack. at least we know steve jobs goes both ways cuz he loves to be fucked and do the fucking!
40. Boti95 (Posts: 162; Member since: 05 Sep 2010)
Why the fuck would they release an iPad 3 when they already released the iPad 2?!
45. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7043; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
WHY THE FUCK WOULD APPLE DO THAT FOR? When they just sue Samsung for infringement. If I was SAMSUNG I would say F U drop the law suit or we will not make any screens. Now APPLE realize how beautiful their CRISP AMOLED PLUS screen looks better than the retina screen