Apple might be 'pricing the iPhone out of China', with Q4 sales down 22 percent

Apple might be 'pricing the iPhone out of China', with Q4 sales down 22 percent
It’s no longer a big secret that the global smartphone industry is in trouble, with a general lack of innovation and extended upgrade cycles routinely cited by analysts as the main reasons for consecutive quarterly sales declines reported over the past year or so.

The situation is no different in China, although at least as far as one company is concerned, excessive retail prices are another key factor playing a crucial role in this troubling trend. In fact, when Apple made the unprecedented move of drastically lowering its revenue forecast for last year’s final calendar quarter, Chinese iPhone shipments were highlighted as one of the tech giant’s two greatest troubles.

In case you were wondering exactly how bad things got in the region for Apple between October and December 2018, Strategy Analytics has the answer... and it’s pretty bad. If the market research firm’s calculations are correct (and they’re usually fairly reliable), only 10.9 million iPhones were shipped to Chinese consumers this past quarter, down from 14 million units in Q4 2017.

That represents a massive 22 percent year-on-year drop, as well as the company’s worst quarterly performance in the country since early 2017. Yes, worse than several quarters during which Apple didn’t release anything new.

If it wasn’t already abundantly clear, the iPhone XS, XS Max, and even iPhone XR seemed grossly overpriced to an audience favoring devices from local brands Huawei, Oppo, and Vivo. While Apple is finally working to fix that, it’s unclear if the company’s figures will be able to rapidly bounce back as the US-China trade war continues.

Of course, smartphone shipments on the whole were down in China both in Q4 and during the entire year, but somehow, Huawei and Vivo managed to defy that trend. Huawei even pulled off a record 28 percent market share in Q4 2018 on the back of an impressive 23 percent year-on-year growth.

The market leader’s yearly numbers also surged a healthy 15 percent, to a grand total of 105.1 million unit shipments, while Apple’s full-year sales didn’t sink as badly as its Q4 figures, reaching 34.2 million units, down from 36.7 million in 2017. Obviously, the trend is the biggest problem, as well as those sky-high iPhone prices, which Strategy Analytics researchers are deeming harder and harder to sustain. 

Apple is already in big trouble in India, and if the company insists on maintaining its notoriously hefty profit margins, iPhones could ultimately be “priced out of China.”



1. dubaiboy78

Posts: 442; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Apple is the main company being affected due to greediness!!!! I hope their market share drop more!


Posts: 234; Member since: Sep 24, 2015

They deserve to die for ripping off its blind followers.

5. TheOracle1

Posts: 2213; Member since: May 04, 2015

They're definitely overpriced for what they offer in comparison to Huawei, Oppo/Vivo and Xiaomi. But it seems Samsung are going down the same path with the rumored pricing of the upcoming S10 starting at around $900 for the regular (non-lite) version. Blindly following Apple like a lemming may turn out to hurt Samsung badly.

7. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

If so, then Samsung is gonna feel the same pinch, and rightfully so. Prices need to come down for them as well, but you do get way more in a Galaxy vs an iPhone, and for quite a bit less.

12. worldpeace

Posts: 3127; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

They won't increase the base price. S8 and S9 launched with the same price (~$720 in my place), they don't have any reason to increase the price to $9xx. While the lite version is their answer to Oneplus and Huawei. (They already losing market share, they won't be doing stupid thing like that.)

24. Vancetastic

Posts: 1097; Member since: May 17, 2017

That seems a bit extreme...I’d settle for improved products at more reasonable prices.

17. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

So what happened to Xiaomi who lost 5,5 million sales?

38. Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

Xiaomi lost 2.7 million sales for the entire year of 2018. They lost 5.5 million for that quarter, but clearly they sold more the other quarters. Apple lost 2.5 million sales for the same 2018. Also Oppo lost 5.8 million in sales. But Huawei gained almost 15 million in sales in 2018.

2. ijuanp03

Posts: 568; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

The very high price tag is to be blamed. Add to that fact that OEMs already outdid Apple in terms of innovation.

37. redmd

Posts: 1926; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Yeah. Those innovative OEM products were also priced sky-high.

60. mootu

Posts: 1500; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

But still far lass than the equivalent iPhones which offered nothing innovative this year.


Posts: 2815; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Why buy a fruit phone while you can buy another phone way cheaper with better specs/features/performance? You will be a thief of your own wallet, but iFans just love to say how their god is so rich........

6. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

It has nothing to do with the price: give a people a local brand and a foreign for the same price and most of them will get the local one (look at us, Korea and India to confirm that). Samsung has had the best Android phones by far until a few years ago (and still has but the gap is narrowed), yet they only dented the Chinese market. The price is a distant factor in why do we see what we see.

8. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Nahhh, Apple is just too greedy, and offers less for more money in the form of a boring limited device, that we all know could be way better. Wallets are now speaking.

10. midan

Posts: 2707; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

They aren't greedy it's just how business works, just like Samsung upcoming flagship phones are very expensive.

13. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Saying Apple isn't greedy, is like saying an octopus doesn't have 8 tentacles...very inaccurate.

14. dimas

Posts: 3343; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Galaxy s10: lamborghini with lamborghini price iPhone xs: bmw with ferrari price. iphones is a good product, just not great for price tag they ask.

27. Vancetastic

Posts: 1097; Member since: May 17, 2017

Greed is exactly how businesses work, since the beginning To think otherwise is the definition of naive.

30. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011


44. wickedwilly

Posts: 667; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

The difference between Apple and Samsung is the latter provide more in their product and incorporates the latest features and innovation. The latter incorporates design and features late in the day when they have already become the norm on other phones.

18. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

How is Apple greedy when its gross margin is the same as the one Samsung has while Google - with the Pixel - has an even larger margin?!

21. TheOracle1

Posts: 2213; Member since: May 04, 2015

How is Apple greedy? Their margins may be similar to Samsung and less than Google but................ There's nothing in the darn box! Fast charger and proprietary cable = $70 (or is it $80?) Official iPhone case = $40 Various required Dongles = $15-30 each Repair cost = $500 Do you get it now Leo? Let's add it all up. iPhone XS Max 512GB = $1,450+70+40+30 = $1,590 That's $1,600 to match what's bundled in the box by most OEM's. I won't even go into how a $10 case suddenly costs $40 or the price gouging on the other accessories. That's greed.

23. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

A fast charger, is 10€ more - retail price. The Case - it's 39€ (the same as a case for XS/XR) - neither company provides one in the box. Dongles - what for when you have lightning headphones in the box? "Repair cost" in the box?! You're kidding, right? So, with Samsung you have an extra 10€ in the box; 1% worth of value must be groundbreaking... Don't get me wrong, I too am pissed on Apple, because they provided me with a sub-par power brick, but only because I feel like they failed to put the clients first (my anger is smaller, given the fact that I got a 100€ discount, that way I paid nothing for the phone, but still)... So, if you think Apple is greedy, you should know that Samsung is just as greedy and Google is even greediest.

28. TheOracle1

Posts: 2213; Member since: May 04, 2015

€10 more than the €60 Apple charger in the box? It's not how much Samsung charge it's how overpriced the Apple fast charger is. €39 for a €10 case that costs €3 to manufacture and you're ok with that? I didn't add the $500 repair cost to my calculation so please read it properly. Don't even try and defend the indefensible. Your "whataboutism" is getting old.

33. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Dude, I'm looking at a retail store in my country and an iPad charger (12W) is 25€ (maybe the 18W would get to be 35€, it's not available yet); a 5W charger is 19€, so the difference is 16€ tops. I will give you 6.000€ for 1000 cases, identical with the one for XR (I mean identical: the same materials, the same fit, the same resistance, the same built; I know where to look and I know where to test them) - you double your money in an instant, but if they are not identical, I will withhold the payment. What do you say? You can make a lot of money from Apple's stupidity instead of bitching. All the sealed iPhones I bought were in perfect condition so why should I need to pay 500$ to repair them? Besides, 500$ are 4.16y of insurance (or 6+ years of AppleCare)... Now tell me again how is €10 (16, if you want) or 1% (1.6) groundbreaking? As I have said Apple gross profit margin is pretty much the same as Samsung's so, if Apple is greedy, so is Samsung.

39. Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

At first you said it was 10€ for a fast charger in your country, then you come back with another post that it is now 25€ or 35€. Look at the end of the day, millions would agree with people that say Apple is greedy. Especially the repair costs. Not to mention if you didn't pay Apple's extortion insurance (Apple Care). As if it will cost you $500 to repair the glass back of an iPhone. Give us a break. That is greedy. It doesn't even cost Apple that much to make a complete iPhone in the box. Apple's repair costs are a joke these days. Apple is not even bragging about how good their service is anymore. Because it's a rip off. Even 60 minutes did a piece on Apple's repair practices. They found that Apple was ripping off and lying to their customers for some repairs. There is even the right to repair movement in the US, because of Apple. To me these days Apple is the biggest culprit of fake news and propaganda these days.

47. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

25 or 35 - 19 (which is in the box) = you do the math. AppleCare is cheaper than Samsung protection plus. Why should I care about the cost when I have insurance?

31. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Samsung is greedy too, so is Google...That's how.

32. Vancetastic

Posts: 1097; Member since: May 17, 2017

They’re all greedy!

35. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Well, I don't care how much money Apple makes from an iPhone, I only care how it serves me. I would have no problem, paying 10.000€ for a phone (with the same internals as a 100€ phone, if I would get back my money's worth).

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