Which dual camera idea do you like most: iPhone 7 Plus, LG G5, Huawei P9?
posted by Paul K. / Dec 14, 2016, 12:34 PM
iPhone 7 Plus to zoom in optically, instead of digitally. Presumably, this should result in a better quality zoomed-in photo. It is also used for the buzzed-about Portrait Mode — a camera feature, which uses the telephoto lens and adds extra blur to the background via software algorithms in order to achieve the effect of a pro-grade camera. Well, the mode is still in beta, so its effects aren't always as awesome as advertised, but presumably, we're getting there at some point.Apple's secondary sensor is a telephoto lens, which allows the
Huawei's P9 has two 12 MP sensors in the back, which work in conjunction to deliver better quality photos in challenging dynamic conditions. One of the sensors is monochrome — it's only capable of picking up black and white images — and is used for light and distance information. The other captures colors and details. There are also a few modes that allow you to play with the dual camera further: you can take photos with the black & white sensor only, or you can use the two together to make a bokeh shot, similar to the iPhone's Portrait Mode. The difference here is that you can edit the artificially-applied focus after the photo has been made and is just chilling in your gallery.
LG's G5 has two different sensors, that work in entirely separate ways. On one side, you've got the main 16 MP sensor, which is your regular camera (flagship quality ensured). The second one is an 8 MP, wide-field shooter with a 135° angle field of view. So, it works a bit like an action cam (though, don't use your G5 as an action cam!), letting you get more scenery into the shot, or record your dog playing fetch without him jumping out of the viewfinder every 5 seconds.
So, as you can see, "dual camera" on a smartphone can mean a lot of different things. We thought we'd ask you — which concept do you like most?
Which dual camera module idea do you like most?
iPhone 7 Plus' 2x optical zoom and portrait mode
Huawei's multi-functional dual module
LG's wide-angle lens
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LG IS better.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 12:49 PM 7
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I had the Honor 8, and I honestly didn't find any difference between regular photos and those I took while covering the monochrome sensor. I prefer LG's implementation, and I am sure I could've used it frequently if my S7 had one. Let's just hope they up the MPs for the wide angle sensor in the G6.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 1:00 PM 1
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What's the purpose of the huawei's dual camera in the first place? Monochrome? Is there really a huge demand for that? Or a high use case for it? Then again, Is it for picture quality? Cause if that's the reason then I think its pointless because almost (if not) every major android flagship phone has better cameras than the P9 As for the IP7+, the bokeh is probably the best in the smartphone industry and the Optical zoom is just alright though not enough to be obvious to the average user. The LG's dual cam is quite more useful than I thought tbh as its very simple to use and eliminates the essence of panorama most of the time though it doesn't have much use case except niche ones. It looks quite ugly at though, if we're being frank. So, in my opinion, I'd take 1. The iphone 7+ because it has the best bokeh in the smartphone business closely followed by the honor 8 and the potential of the optical zoom is quite huge if apple decides to put in more developement into it. 2. The LG G5 simply because its just dead simple to use without any hassles add to the fact that its use case is quite straight forward (wide angle) 3. The huawei P9. This ones leaves me curious though because its almost useless in the larger scheme of things as it doesn't produce superior images to its other rivals (not even a single one of them). What I'm wondering is why they didn't use the honor 8 for this comparism instead of the P9, even if I know it doesn't have monochrome, which I believe is frankly meh. But, oh well, there you have it...
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 1:05 PM 2
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"The iphone 7+ because it has the best bokeh in the smartphone business closely followed by the honor 8 and the potential of the optical zoom is quite huge if apple decides to put in more developement into it." Not even close, it is way artificial, and only PA has glorified Apple's implementation of this feature that has been on Samsung and android phones for years. The bokeh effect you can get from the Pro mode found on the S7 and G5 is tons better than that on the iPhone. And even the selective mode delivers better results from those om the 7 Plus. Btw, the dual cameras on the 7 Plus plays no role in the bokeh effect, Apple is just marketing the s***t out of the second sensor hoping people will pay more to get the Plus model.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 1:49 PM 7
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Huawei has a pretty simple integration but didnt claim it was amazing or magical either. They delivered a niche use case and it works very well for that. LG was okay, once again, specific use case and it delivers on that. Apple isn't even in the running this time. This year, Apple has not delivered on a single promise regarding the iPhone 7. The portrait mode is crap, the wireless future didn't materialize (but the wired past was killed anyway), tired and terrible design, etc.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 4:54 PM 3
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I'm curious as to where you got your info for the P9. I rock the LG V10, the iPhone 6S plus, and the Huawei P9, and the P9 takes the best photos. I haven't compared it to the V20 because I decided not to buy that. And I wasn't too enthused with the iPhone 7. I will take some comparison shots with it soon though. I think the P9 has amazingly detailed photos. The purpose of the black and white is to gather image details, and then the color is overlay onto that. I usually shoot with my Canon 70D, but while in China, I often found myself keeping that camera in my backpack, and just snapping a shot with the p9 because it looked so good. Especially when it came to capturing lighting. When there is a gap in the clouds, with streaks of sunlight coming through, the P9 delivers amazing shots. It also does really well in low light conditions. Nowhere near as well as my canon, but pretty awesome for a cell phone. I really do need to play more with the V20 and iPhone 7 before making a final decision, but from the shots I've taken in stores, (which isn't really real world, I get that), they haven't blown me away.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 4:53 PM 1
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IPhone 7 pluses camera is a digital zoom. It then switches to a different camera. Phone arena. Your idiots. It's just 2 cameras. There is no optical zoom.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 1:16 PM 7
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What are you on about? The secondary camera has a 56mm, f2.8 lens, which provides two times the magnification of the regular lens. Ergo, it's "optical" — the software does not digitally crop and zoom in to the image, but the image is already "enlarged" before it hits the camera sensor. I am not sure if I can explain it in simpler terms. Also, "Your idiots" is an extremely ironic thing to say.
posted on Dec 15, 2016, 1:24 AM 0
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I, on the other side find the lg solution the most pointless. Lenses in smartphones are already very wide so not that big of a deal. I really like the apple's idea, a lossless zoom is always good to find. However i love the huawei's approach. Not because of the monochrome itself but because the picture is combined with the color one and the results are stunning in low light despite a not flagship grade sensor.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 1:59 PM 0
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A large unfiltered white pixel that is 3x the size of RGB pixels, layered with the RGB data from another sensor should be like 6x better in low light and fast shutter shots. I'd like to see more data and implementations of this.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 2:49 PM 0
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None of them! Dual camera setups look like ugly SpongeBob eyes! Single camera looks better
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 2:56 PM 3
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That's the purpose of this poll "to glorify apple". Typical article that is written here.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 4:01 PM 3
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and iPhone still get 3rd place even after sugar-coating it inside article, lol... and on P9 part: "or you can use the two together to make a bokeh shot, similar to the iPhone's Portrait Mode" actually it's iPhone that get similar bokeh mode, not the other way around, since P9 is released half-year befor i7+
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 7:50 PM 1
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The G5 takes amazing photos with the wide angle. On a recent trip to Mexico and southern California mountains I found myself defaulting to the wide angle simply because the extra field of view added a huge wow factor to the images. Detail isn't quite as great as the 16MP main lens but the images themselves seem more impressive.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 4:24 PM 0
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^^ I second that... I think the G5's dual-camera is the better implementation so far. It's wide-angle lense comes in handy on a touristic trip or for a group shot! The telephoto lense of the iPhone 7 Plus only works on very bright scenes... which means niche usage and not on a daily basis, nor at all times.
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 4:54 PM 1
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yeah, wide angle is really usefull for vacation trip photos, since you can capture more :D but it's silly that they put such small MP for extra wide angle :-/ 16MP+ultra wide angle and option for fixing fish-eye effect will be great
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 7:36 PM 0
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First of all, go back and take Photography 101. iCrap has no optical zoom but two separate camera modules. One with microscopic sensor and another with nanoscopic sensor which take advantage of crop factor to emulate longer focal length
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 5:58 PM 0
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How about V10's dual front camera? Even though they're low in mp count, but the wide angle lense is very good. Even some people think that i was using an action cam for the photos i took using that wide angle lense. It wasn't that nice, but it got the job done. Imho :)
posted on Dec 14, 2016, 8:09 PM 0
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