Verizon CEO says chance of iPhone on Big Red greater with advent of 4G

Verizon CEO says chance of iPhone on Big Red greater with advent of 4G
In an interview with the WSJ, Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg said that the chances of Apple producing an iPhone model for his network increase greatly with the imminent arrival of Big Red's 4G network. The exec said that Apple never intended to make a CDMA version of their touchscreen phone because of the limitations that the format has along with its matching EV-DO data standard. Seidenberg said because CDMA is rarely seen outside of North America, Apple would have had to make a second model of its device to cover the rest of the world had they decided to go with Verizon. This split will disappear once Long Term Evolution (or LTE for short) for the 4G network is booted up. Most International and domestic carriers plan on going with LTE, including Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. Once that mode becomes commonplace, one iPhone model will be compatable with a large number of networkers. We have previously reported that Seidenberg's company plans to have LTE up and running on two cities by the end of the year.

If Seidenberg's comments are true about Apple never planning to make a CDMA version of the iPhone, it debunks the common theory that Verizon had first shot at the handset but turned it down because the company did not want to give up control on certain things like interface design, pricing, sales and service. It also kills reports that Big Red is planning on offering a version of the phone later this year.

source: WSJ via AppleInsider



1. heavybreathing

Posts: 276; Member since: Feb 26, 2009

So Apple denied Verizon because their network is inferior. Hm.

3. Legion

Posts: 397; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

*sigh* You are some special kind of stupid aren't you?

8. heavybreathing

Posts: 276; Member since: Feb 26, 2009

I'm a special kind of something.

12. sinfulta

Posts: 279; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Apple never intended is BS, When apple approached Verizon, they didn't even have the radio's ready for the device. The phone was explained and Verizon had to go by what apple said with the product sight unseen. The only reason there was a consideration for making a CDMA device is because EVDO Rev.A was already widely available, and what was not Rev.A at that time was Rev. 0. And was putting ATT 3G coverage to shame with almost 490% more coverage area and covering 60% more population. Thus why the 2G Iphone was released on the much more mature EDGE network for ATT. Obviously those numbers have changed quite a bit with Verizon having 240% more 3G coverage and covering only 40% more of the population, and now ATT with HSPDA 3G is now quicker than Verizon where the quicker HSPDA is established. But it is what it is at that time. And I don't live in middle america (Small towns scare me. lol)... So I don't give a damn about non major big cities. So ATT would work for me in the data aspect if they would get voice signal at my house I would probably switch back to them. What will suck is if Verizon continues to building out LTE slightly ahead of schedule like they are at the moment and then they will probably try to push for a exclusivity on a 4G I phone like ATT did with this prior generation. I have verizon, and I don't really care about the I phone (Unless it had some things I need/use all the time, which it still doesn't with the 3.0 patch coming...:::sigh::: that I need for work). I just want there to be fair competition between all the carriers. Let all the carriers carry, the BB Storm, Palm Pre, Iphone, G1....etc. Let the consumers decide on the carrier and the device. I'm so sick of phone exclusives... it doesn't create fair competition between carriers. It just affects consumers... in there wallets.

19. nyati2de

Posts: 1; Member since: Apr 19, 2009

I agree with your comment on exclusivity..... These carriers think there something special when they get a phone that no other carrier has but the truth is that they are pigeon-holding their cust by only having the phone that they want on someone elses network. I'm a loyal Verizon Cust and a loyal Mac cust but I cant have an Iphone on Verizon cause will.... it just didn't happen the way it should have Apple should have made 2 versions and given it to everyone. On the note that CDMA is not big outside the states is true but also the truth is the CDMA does exsist in roughly 50 countries outside the states so that still would turn a profit for Apple in more ways than 1.

22. The Spartan

Posts: 98; Member since: Jan 27, 2009

"If Seidenberg's comments are true about Apple never planning to make a CDMA version of the iPhone, it debunks the common theory that Verizon had first shot at the handset but turned it down because the company did not want to give up control on certain things like interface design, pricing, sales and service." Wait, what??? He was referring to the constant barrage of rumors about a CDMA iPhone coming out later this year. It is fact that Apple went to Big Red first however Big Red turned them down for a variety of issues, mainly controlling of the technical support. And I'm sorry PhoneArena, but you don't need to have a CDMA device ready in your hands to decline that. They shot them down before they could make the device. Wow, let's think next time before throwing up some rambling speculation, eh?

2. rehnhart

Posts: 103; Member since: Mar 27, 2009

I doubt we will see a Verizon branded Iphone in our lifetime. Like the article says, Verizon would give up too much of it's pricing and services control and they are commited to Vcast offerings. If LTE takes off, who knows, we could see a "Vphone". Personally speaking, I would rather see a Android based phone come over to Big Red, I would trade up my LG Dare for one of the new Magic or Sappheres, whatever they will call it phones.

4. Legion

Posts: 397; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

His response about the Iphone was only a small part of the interview in which many other issues were also discussed such as: Vodafone's 45 percent in VZW Sprints's Unlimited deals and Market standing The future of LTE in general He said Iphone so I guess all that other stuff doesnt matter right?

5. souleater93

Posts: 86; Member since: Mar 20, 2009

if verizon does get an iphone i would ditch the dare in a heartbeat i have an itouch and i love it

6. Osukaru

Posts: 68; Member since: Jul 02, 2008

If Verizon gets an iPhone you will see a flood of people coming back. Yes, even those who talked themselves into the whole "ATT network better than VZW" in order to move over.

7. chupum

Posts: 115; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Holy crap, that would be awesome. My contract will be up in a few more moneths and I've been looking for a new smartphone! I wonder what the chances are that by the second half of this year, VZW will have that 4G compatible IPhone? Thus far I've been eyeing the Samsung Omnia... I too find it hilarious that people left VZW for the IPhone, not ATT... Meaning, in my opinion, many, not all, of those who switched their carrier and got the iphone, belabored their false justification by touting that they also switched to a better network. I think we're going to see a mass flood of customers back to VZW with the advent of this 4G phone. KARMA! The only question is, how will the Iphone be different in capabilities, options or software, if at all, when if comes to VZW?

11. Fanboys Suck

Posts: 609; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

Dude... Read the last paragraph of the article...

14. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

wow, the omnia, with a 67% return rate. ive given mine back and kept my storm. work phone went from omnia back to chocolate 3.. much more reliable.

9. DonLouie

Posts: 594; Member since: Dec 22, 2008

Buddy was blowing smoke out his butt bringing up capacity issues on IDEN, he also disregarded Sprint's CDMA network which is beating them

17. The Spartan

Posts: 98; Member since: Jan 27, 2009

Uh..tying in one region out of five in JD Power and Associates is not beating. And the fact you put that in an advertisement on the internet just makes Sprint look desperate. And desperation as we all a stinky cologne.

10. jskrenes

Posts: 209; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Releasing the iPhone on Verizon would fit perfectly into Apple's business model: release an obviously limited version of their product (3G CDMA), get people overly hyped about it, and then a few months later release a better product (4G LTE).

20. Dood

Posts: 269; Member since: Mar 23, 2009


13. insider80

Posts: 93; Member since: Jan 26, 2009

why would they even waste there time with the iphone they need to be working on the next new thing to put out with there 4g network( which is a loooong ways away) not trying to aquire the scraps of att. iphone is old news and by the time the 4g is up and running the iphone will prob be non existent

15. jonky876

Posts: 10; Member since: Apr 08, 2009


16. phone333

Posts: 331; Member since: Feb 04, 2009

-True..True ! What i think would be "CRAZY" is if the "Pre" gets release on 4g at the last minute.

18. The Spartan

Posts: 98; Member since: Jan 27, 2009

IT would be crazy since Sprint's 4g network is no where near ready to go.

21. Kiltlifter

Posts: 742; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

I don't care... The iPhone still sucks even if they put it on LTE and put it for BIG RED... You really think there isn't going to be a ton of problesm with the iPhone 4g? I bet the radio will still be crappy, the reception poor, and both vzw and apple will be sued by many class action lawsuits becuase apples marketing program is full of $H!+ and like to make false claims. Earth to apple... FIX YOUR CRAP before releasing it. At least VZW "network test" are rediculous and most manufactureers complain about the time it takes to test... so in 5 years VZW will have the first iPhone! LOL! All you VZW lovers with out cause or reason are pathetic... always trashing the iphone whe it is on AT&T, but the second there is a chance for vzw... "YAY iPHONE!!! WOOT STORM IPHONE FTW!!!" ... Pathetic

23. The Spartan

Posts: 98; Member since: Jan 27, 2009 say that like the Godfather himself came on here saying "iPhone FTW" and yet strangely...I don't see him on here. Matter of fact I haven't seen any of the VZW fanboys on here saying "iPhone FTW", except for myself and I don't bash the iPhone. I just bash people who are ignorant to everything but the iPhone. And Pathetic is what we call your retarded special ed style of spelling and grammar. Dude, don't you have a browser with spell check or are you really just some special kind of stupid?

24. *HOVA*

Posts: 564; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

I think it's gonna be awesome to watch all the VZW fanboys who do nothing but bash the iPhone end up getting one and see how amazing it is.

25. vzw fanman

Posts: 1977; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

i know dont you just hate those fanboys? hahha lol

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