Trump cabinet member: Huawei and ZTE are untrustworthy

Trump cabinet member: Huawei and ZTE are untrustworthy
Chinese phone and networking equipment manufacturers Huawei and ZTE have both been considered threats to U.S. national security. Both have been banned at one time from their U.S. suppliers (ZTE eventually reached a costly settlement with the Commerce Department), and now both companies are being called untrustworthy by U.S. Attorney General William Barr. The latter was writing a letter to Ajit Pai, the chairman of the FCC, to support the regulatory agency's draft Report and Order banning Huawei and ZTE from selling goods to regional and rural telecom operators receiving money from the Universal Service Fund. The fund is managed by the FCC and is used to make sure that Americans with a low-income, or those living in rural areas of the country, have the same access to telecom services as others living in the country.

FCC Chairman Pai tweeted a copy of the letter he received from Barr. Because the $8.5 billion Universal Service Fund purchases networking equipment for rural carriers, the Attorney General pointed out that with 5G networks being built, it is important for the U.S. to be cautious about purchasing networking gear from Huawei and ZTE. "We will become even more dependent on those networks as more and more devices and services are connected and operate at unprecededented (sic) speeds. Human life and safety as well as critical government functions will ride on them," Barr wrote. He also made a comment aimed at U.S. allies like Britain and Germany that did not heed warnings from the U.S. not to allow Huawei's gear to be used in 5G networks. "Our national defense will depend on the security of our allies' networks as well as our own," the Attorney General wrote.

FCC will vote on the proposal to ban the Universal Service Fund from purchasing gear from Huawei and ZTE on November 22nd

In the letter, Barr stated that when it comes to the two Chinese manufacturers "their own track record, as well as the practices of the Chinese government, demonstrate that Huawei and ZTE cannot be trusted...we should not signal that Huawei and ZTE are anything other than a threat to our collective security, for that is exactly what they, through their actions, have shown themselves to be." The FCC will vote on the proposal to ban the use of Universal Service Funds to purchase Huawei and ZTE networking equipment on November 22nd. The FCC will demand that U.S. carriers remove and replace equipment from the two companies that are already part of their networks. As of this past August, Huawei was the global leader in networking equipment with a 28% share. ZTE was fourth with 10%.

Last month, we passed along a report stating that the Trump administration discovered that no U.S. firm manufacturers the radio equipment that transmits signals from mobile phones to cell towers and vice versa. Reportedly, administration officials spoke with Oracle and Cisco in an effort to get at least one of these firms to enter this business. However, both companies said that it would take too much time and money for them to compete with Huawei. Another plan that U.S. officials considered was to have the government help Huawei and ZTE competitors Nokia and Ericsson offer more generous financing terms to their customers; this would be done by having the U.S. provide funds to both companies. Huawei is able to provide its customers with long payment schedules through funding it receives from China's state-run banks.

Huawei and ZTE are considered security threats to the U.S. because Chinese law allows the government to demand that companies gather intelligence at its behest. As a result, U.S. lawmakers are concerned that the firms' equipment contains backdoors that send information to Beijing. Both Huawei and ZTE have denied these allegations.



1. Venom

Posts: 3821; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I agree. Can't trust something that is backed by the Chinese government especially when the Chinese government has banned many things in the past to give an unfair advantage to Chinese companies. Course I suspect the usual Huawei apologists to deny anything related to Huawei and blame it on politics as usual.

8. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

That’s because it is BS political propaganda. The U.S. still has not provided any proof, even when asked by American companies like Microsoft. And let’s not forget that American companies like FB, Google, and others have been proven to have back doors. I suppose foreigners should not buy U.S. products due to that. If Huawei were such a threat, other countries that are counted as U.S. allies would not be using their telecom equipment. Let’s also not forget that the U.S. government is willing to give monetary aid to other foreign telecom companies (Nokia, Ericsson), so using your logic, that would give them an unfair advantage. But funny how you and the Huawei haters fail to attack the U.S. government for wanting to do that, or how you don’t attack companies like Google and Cisco for having backdoors for the U.S. government.

12. Venom

Posts: 3821; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

OK first of all, show me where I said or implied that the US is innocent or that Google and Facebook deserve to walk free? I didn't because it's just another blanket excuse to pull the heat from Huawei. Yes, the US gives money to foreign companies to aid, but you once again fail to realize that the US is a FREE MARKET ECONOMY unlike China. Companies for the most part can do business in the US. Some of the most successful companies like Nintendo are based in Japan but get a lot of business in the US. Your example is flawed because of you refuse to see the bigger picture.

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

Show me where you’ve said they aren’t? It’s hypocritical to attack one company and country while you stay mum about another country and company doing the same things you accuse the former of. And the U.S. is a free market economy FOR WHOM? Because EVERYONE in the U.S. DOES NOT get treated equally. And if the U.S. thought that Nintendo could be used as bargaining chip to get a better trade deal, you’d see them up on the Entities list as well. Your example is flawed, as always, because YOU refuse to see the facts.

20. Venom

Posts: 3821; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

So you admit that it was a blanket statement then since you can't point to where I said or implied that the US was innocent? You can't hold the US accountable for something that China does on a daily basis. The US is a free market. This isn't a political debate about equality amongst Americans. We are referring to businesses here specifically tech companies. Samsung, LG, Sony, BlackBerry, hell even Nokia somewhat are foreign companies that do business in the US.

22. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

No, but I do admit to pointing out that you are blaming China and Huawei for things that the U.S. and companies like Cisco and Google have done, except you don’t blame any of the latter for doing so. I can hold the U.S. accountable since it’s something that they do, and it being a free market doesn’t make them exempt from being held to the fire like every other country. This is politics, period. And when it comes to politics, the U.S. is the best at shady politics. And if all of the countries of those foreign companies had something that the U.S. wanted, and it could use those companies to sway things in the way that they wanted, they would all be on the Entities list with the U.S. manufacturing reasons with no proof, just like Huawei.

33. dimas

Posts: 3418; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

You are one gullible fanboy meanestgenius. Huawei can be controlled by their government. According to their law, tech companies should cooperate with them. Even alibaba should be questioned because after registering to nasdaq, jack ma admitted being part of the communist party when in earlier years, he lied that he have no association the group. Whatsapp, tiktok, cm launcher, tencent games, their law is already a big evidence. What else do you want to see as proof?

36. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

Dimas, you are a blind U.S. fanboy that follows any propaganda the U.S. spits out, and you willfully swallow whatever they decide to spoon feed you. Any U.S. company can be controlled by the government in the same manner. You willfully attack communist but turn a blind eye to the fascist running the U.S. right now. The U.S. is banning Huawei with NO proof of wrongdoing, which is why they can’t provide any. What more proof do you need that this is BS political propaganda?

37. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

And speaking of gullible, how come you have not been complaining about all of these U.S. companies that have backdoors for the U.S. government? Hypocrisy at its finest.

38. dimas

Posts: 3418; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Wow, you really have a pea for a brain meanest. Why would i keep repeating myself? As I said before, ALL COUNTRIES spy on each other. ALL COUNTRIES eavesdrop on their citizens. The difference between U.S. and china? You can say bad things about american politicians while you get death sentence if you irk the chinese govt. Say one bad thing about china and you'll go missing after. Few days. Even jacky chan don't say bad things, he always have safe answers coz he's afraid PRC will get take everything he have. Every post you do just show that you are one hell of a dry company fanboy. Every brand can be criticized, every nation can be criticized, I believe in democracy, i don't support communism. Is that enough of an answer, whiny huawei worshipper?

40. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

LMAO you can always tell who the coconuts are on this site by the way they have to level insults because they are proven wrong. Never once did I say that any country doesn’t spy or ease drop. But your hypocritical @$$ is here defending the U.S. for the exact same thing you blame China for. Also, has China bombed its own citizens like the U.S. has? The U.S. has put people in concentration camps in its own country, has kidnapped and murdered citizens of a darker complexion than that of Caucasians, and routinely practices racism against those same darker hued citizens. The country is now run by a fascist that practices white supremacy and rape culture, and your support of that has told me everything I need to know about you. Every post you make on a Huawei related article proves the type of incessant hater that caps for the U.S. just like those racist, uneducated hillbillies do. Every brand and country can be critiqued, but you seem to have an issue when I throw the wrongdoings of the U.S. back at those like you that hypocritically attack China for its wrongdoings like the U.S. is innocent. If you believe in democracy, then how are you supporting a fascist regime like the U.S.? Because that is exactly what this country has become. You supporting a country that promotes racism, fascism, rape culture, inequality, terrorism, and a whole host of other negative things has given me all the answers I need about a whiny simpleton like you.

42. dimas

Posts: 3418; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

As i said, you're a f**ked up pea brain huawei worshipper and i won't hold back saying it. I personally attack U.S. And criticize their wrong policies thru our local newspaper which you don't need to know where. Just because i don't say it in phonearena it doesn' t mean that I am siding with them. You are pathetic, you look for every opinion in phonearena. You are a disguised troll looking for people who will side with your love for huawei and china. I suggest you visit a specialisy or you should just be kissing your huawei god. If you can't take my insult, give more intelligent comment, huawei peabrain.

44. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

LMAO I love it when my actions triggers the site trolls and insignificant flag fanboys like you, and I won’t hold back saying it, either. You don’t do anything of the such, but thanks for pointing out that the internet emboldens liars such as yourself. You are clearly siding with the the U.S. and the atrocities it has committed, so don’t back peddle now that I’ve pointed it out. Everything you’re saying about me is a reflection of yourself and now you feel about yourself deep down inside, so do keep responding and digging that hole deeper and deeper. And don’t think I forgot: I’m still waiting for you to post proof that I’ve been backing China as opposed to backing Huawei due to the unfair treatment that the U.S. has bestowed upon them, without any proof. Now instead of worshipping your deity that is the American flag, how about you post that proof and prove me wrong by posting any evidence of me supporting China as opposed to Huawei, or are you content with being the lying troll that you’ve become famous for on this site? Tick tock, tick tock....

2. RevolutionA

Posts: 473; Member since: Sep 30, 2017

I absolutely agree. We need to encourage our own mobiles. People buy these Huawei, Samsung and all kind of phones and forget about our in-house Apple phones. We deserve best

3. yalokiy

Posts: 1101; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

One can buy an iPhone in China, but not a Huawei phone in US, how fair is that?

5. RevolutionA

Posts: 473; Member since: Sep 30, 2017

What are you trying to point out? Don't buy an iPhone in China then, no one asked em to buy. Buy your own Chinese stuff. It's fair in the sense of protecting peoples privacy and abiding security.

11. Venom

Posts: 3821; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

How's it fair that companies have to turn over their IP in order to do business in China? How fair is it that China bans things all the time?

15. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

How is it fair that the U.S. has unfair practices with other countries and it’s own citizens?

19. Venom

Posts: 3821; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Such as? Blanket statements don't count as fact.

23. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

You saying it’s a blanket statement doesn’t make it so. But here’s a big, glaring example: The U.S. is using unfair practices to put Huawei on the Entities list, since it has yet to show proof.

39. dimas

Posts: 3418; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Drop it already meanest fanboy. Not having huawei in the U.S. is not the end of competition. China is also unfair to other countries by allowing tech clones in their territory and you think China's getting bullied? They can steal from west and asian neighbors but other countries can't ban them? Get a life.

41. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

Stop following me around, flag fanboy. ANY choice removed without any reason other than “concerns” is a blow to competition. Never once have I spoken up in the defense of China for their wrongdoings, and I challenge you to find one post that I’ve made that shows that. You won’t, because no post exists. But you sure so support a country like the U.S. that has done everything that you say China has, and you do it like the proud hypocrite that you are. Take your own advice and get a life yourself.

43. dimas

Posts: 3418; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

I don't take sides. You are just too blinded that you think all people that criticize huawei is pro-U.S., chinese/ huawei peabrain fanboy.

45. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

Except, you’re taking the side of the U.S. and their atrocities. You’re ignoring what they have done and are pointing the finger at another country for doing exactly what the U.S. has done, you’re just too ignorant and in denial about what you’re really doing.

6. inFla

Posts: 178; Member since: Aug 17, 2018

The only thing "in-house Apple" is the name.

34. Vancetastic

Posts: 1753; Member since: May 17, 2017

Where do they build those in-house Apple phones? Your troll game is weak, son.

4. Alcyone

Posts: 566; Member since: May 10, 2018

I'm neutral on this, but a devils advocate with one part. Pricing. How much will it cost the US consumer for domestic research, development and manufacturing of said 5g equipment? China sure as hell won't license out what they have. Better start saving more money for the inflated prices headed inwards.

21. Venom

Posts: 3821; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Nope. China are hypocrites on that front. Why would they do what they require foreign companies to do if they want to do business in the US?

29. Marcwand3l

Posts: 456; Member since: May 08, 2017

Everybody is a hypocrite, especially the Americans who have been for a while inexplicably acting like crybabies regarding China. The Chinese simply negotiated in their favor, when you have a resource that others want you can get it your way. What's wrong with that exactly? Nobody was forcing big Corporation to do business in China. Whats wrong with the fact that the Chinese didn't want to be perpetual slaves at the mercy of these Corporations? And when Huawei wanted to do business in US and followed the logical steps to achieve this, they were outright blocked without the possibility to do anything about it. Was that a fair and balance thing to do? Does that prove how much of a free economy the US is? I sincerely doubt it.

26. meanestgenius

Posts: 22475; Member since: May 28, 2014

Alcyone, Huawei has already said that they would license their tech and IP to U.S. companies so that they can develop 5G tech for themselves and not rely on Huawei to build it. Huawei is also the least expensive of the telecom equipment providers with the best tech and IP concerning telecom equipment.

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