Germany to allow Huawei equipment to be used in the country's 5G networks

Germany to allow Huawei equipment to be used in the country's 5G networks
For nearly a year now, the U.S government has warned its European allies not to allow Huawei to supply networking gear for their 5G networks. That's because the world's largest networking equipment supplier, with a 28% market share, is considered to be a national security threat in the U.S. American lawmakers are concerned that under communist Chinese law, Huawei could be forced to spy on U.S. companies and consumers. And no matter how often the Chinese manufacturer issues a denial, you cannot convince U.S. lawmakers of either party that the company's networking gear and phones do not have a backdoor built inside ready to send intelligence to Beijing.

Very few U.S. allies have heeded the warning. Today, Reuters reports that Germany's new rules covering the build-out of 5G in that country do not ban the use of Huawei's equipment in these networks. 5G is the next generation of wireless connectivity with download data speeds 10 times faster than 4G. The global economy will get a lift as new businesses and industries will be created to take advantage of the faster data speeds and the low latency. Countries that get to the finish line first will have a major advantage in the new 5G economy.

German carriers worry that banning Huawei would delay the completion of 5G networks in the country


During a press conference held today in Berlin, German government spokesman Steffen Seibert said, "We are not taking a pre-emptive decision to ban any actor or any company." The country aims to give suppliers a level playing field. The Trump administration has been looking at ways to develop a U.S. based rival to Huawei. Officials reportedly approached Cisco and Oracle, but both declined citing the time and money it would take to enter this segment of the networking industry. So Trump officials allegedly mulled over the possibility of throwing money at Nokia and Ericsson to help them match Huawei's generous financing terms. The latter has access to China's state-run banks giving it a huge pool of cash it can use to stretch out payments from customers.

Germany's carriers are Huawei customers and they have complained that banning the company would delay the completion of its 5G network build-out for years and add billions of dollars to the cost of finishing the project. And as we've pointed out, countries that complete their networks before others will have a head start when it comes to monetizing the faster 5G speeds.

Under the new rules, German wireless providers Deutsche Telekom, Vodafone, and Telefonica Deutschland will have to apply enhanced security standards to important parts of their networks. Suppliers like Huawei will have to be certified by Germany’s cybersecurity authority, the Federal Office for Information Security (BSI). If equipment from any supplier is used for spying, that vendor could be banned and sued for damages by the carriers.

Last week, the European Union (EU) released a warning to member states about the increased possibility of cyber attacks due to the launch of 5G networks. The warning mentioned the possibility of attacks carried out by "non-EU state or state-backed actors" and discussed the importance of coming up with new ways to keep telecom networks safe from attack. The EU did not specifically mention Huawei or China.

Besides the U.S., Australia and Japan have banned Huawei's networking equipment from being used in their countries. Britain's carriers have told the Parliament that it should concentrate on the economic promise of 5G and just allow Huawei's equipment to be employed in the country's 5G networks. The U.K. has discovered, like other countries including the U.S., that Huawei is one of a small group of companies that have the technological know-how to get 5G service up and running. As a result, it seems that the warnings from the U.S. about Huawei are being blatantly ignored in Europe. Will this lead to security issues years down the road? If you believe Huawei, the answer is "no."

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49 Comments

1. torr310

Posts: 1690; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

My opinion: Trump is all about business. All countries spy/hack one anothers' networks, no matter what.

2. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Not all countries are backed by a communist regime though. That's the difference.

4. mackan84

Posts: 609; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

I’m willing to bet that if China spies on the US it’s like google; They just wanna know your shopping habits so they can sell you more crap and make more money.

15. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I don't buy that one bit. I don't think China is using our data to sell us things. This goes far beyond simple advertising.

24. Mexx81

Posts: 9; Member since: Sep 09, 2019

pls tell us,what China do ? You think you are important to China ? LOL. Grow up

41. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I never said nor implied that I was important to China. I'm just giving my opinion much like you are.

12. Priyam009

Posts: 63; Member since: Oct 23, 2018

This venom guy is outright Huawei hater, sometimes you feel he is getting paid to protest anything regarding Huawei

16. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I wish I was getting paid, but my opinion is my own. I just don't trust Huawei.

22. mahalo15

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 30, 2018

We all know all who gets paid for supporting govt in China. Its called "50 cent party", an army of communist keyboard warriors.

26. QuantumRazer

Posts: 153; Member since: Apr 27, 2019

Nobody supports Chinese govt. here, though. What was your point again?

42. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

No, but you're supporting Huawei which are pretty much backed by the Chinese government.

50. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Exactly, QuantumRazer. No one is here is supporting China, but it’s equally folly to support the U.S. when they have been doing the same things China has been doing.

27. raky_b

Posts: 420; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

As not all countries has started wars all over the globe, bombing half of the world just to try weapons, assassinated many leaders of other countries, and paying rulers and "opposition" to do what is best for that one country and not their own countries....same country has been catch at spying allies, proven to work on it's own interests even if that means supporting murderers and sadistic regimes. By the way, I'm not writing about communist country, but "democratic " one...

35. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Exactly. Totally agree. And here you have people actually defending the U.S. and calling others “keyboard warriors” when they in fact are doing exactly that by leveling insults against those don’t agree with U.S. tactics. “Alleging” is one thing, flat out proof is another, and there has been no proof presented by the U.S. that has shown Huawei spying. Meanwhile, the U.S. has been proven to spy on others, U.S. companies have been caught having backdoors in their equipment to help with the U.S. spying, etc. The U.S. is as bad as they come.

9. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Torr310, I agree: All countries conduct acts of espionage against one another, and the U.S. has done more that most in that regard. They are as guilty and as shady as any other country. No way should they be treated as if they are better than any other country concerning this.

21. mahalo15

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 30, 2018

Huawei has to be the shadiest of companies to have existed. Indian security services accused Huawei of aiding Taliban back in 2001. Cisco accused them of stealing their source code in 2003. Huawei admitted to this, but the case was eventually dropped after Cisco and Huawei reached an agreement. FBI started an investigation into Huawei’s founder for potential violations of U.S. trade sanctions in Iran in 2007, the very thing they would charge Huawei with in 2019 (pre-Trump BTW). Motorola sued the tech giant for corporate espionage in 2010. The suit was eventually settled in 2011. T-Mobile USA sued Huawei, alleging that it had stolen trade secrets concerning a phone-testing robot used by American carrier named Tappy. Poland arrested a Huawei employee on suspicion of spying and admitted it didn’t know if it’ll use Chinese tech for its 5G

43. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

See what I mean, and people want them to help build out a 5G network here in the US? Some of those I have heard about up above. I do recall the Cisco one for sure.

46. mootu

Posts: 1537; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

Well if you want to mention Cisco as though they are saints just remember that 8 seperate backdoors were found in Cisco equipment in the first half of 2019. Compare that to zero cases in Huawei equipment. And you have the balls to question Huawei's track record?

49. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Exactly, mootu. Funny how the anti-Huawei crowd seem to overlook that just because Huawei is a Chinese company.

48. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

torr310, Absolutely true. The U.S. shouldn’t get a pass for their spying just because it’s a democracy. Spying is spying, and the U.S. is more of a fascist country now with the way things have been going.

3. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I'm still with the US on this one. To have China on the backdoor of our major network infrastructure is too risky.

6. KingSam

Posts: 1492; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

I don't get all these brain dead Americans. Huawei is a "National Security Threat" so lets just cut off all their supplies and kill a major part of their core business. Anyone else see the problem here? Sure I can agree on Banning sales and network infrastructure in the US but let the company do their honest business selling their electronics. No evidence to date, just rumors and yes I agree that building US network on their 5G tech is risky from a political standpoint but this is all just trade beef and blown way out of proportion.

11. rossy

Posts: 46; Member since: Aug 23, 2013

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/huawei-poland-spying/ The US does not care if Huawei installs its gear in the countries where it does not have its intelligence sharing agreements. However, if countries use Huawei telecom then there is danger that the intelligence may be compromised. This is especially true in Five Eyes countries. Huawei case is not a unique. Look up Kaspersky Lab ban.

28. raky_b

Posts: 420; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

No, USA installs military bases instead

14. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I don't think you realize how much influence China could have since they are supported by China. As you can see with Apple, China has an indirect influence. What if current events caused China to change their views on something and it goes against their agenda. Who's to say that China won't try to interfere with Huawei's networking tech and have a backdoor in our infrastructure? This isn't something that's blowing out of proportion. And don't forget that China has banned entities as well.

7. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

It’s becoming clear to other countries that the U.S. is just blowing smoke when it comes to Huawei doing any spying. No proof has been shown that Huawei has any backdoors in its equipment. Meanwhile, U.S. companies like Google, Cisco and the like have been shown to have backdoors by one one source or another, and the U.S. has been caught spying on its own citizens and allies. This is all just BS political propaganda, and too many citizens of the U.S. are allowing the wool to be firmly be pulled over their eyes. The U.S. must be very content with being at the tail end of certain technological advancements, as Huawei is is clearly and comfortably in the lead.

8. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Along with Germany saying “bah” to the U.S. and using Huawei’s 5G equipment, the UAE found absolutely nothing that would say that Huawei’s equipment would allow China to spy on them: https://www.huaweicentral.com/no-security-holes-found-in-huaweis-5g-technology-uae-telecom-du/ And several other countries are not going along with the ban as well: https://www.rt.com/business/470129-countries-no-huawei-ban/ Now, what country would use Huawei’s networking equipment if there was actually the threat of espionage? The longer this goes on, the more info that comes out that the U.S. has no proof and that this is just BS political propaganda.

10. Feanor

Posts: 1410; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

What worries me more in this story is not whether there is proof that Huawei spies, but the mention that Huawei has endless funding support by the Chinese government and therefore stifles the competition of Nokia and Ericsson, who operate on the terms of a free market. This is for all here that say that Huawei provides valuable competition to the other companies and helps innovation move in a faster pace. Sorry, but with endless funding this is not moving innovation, this is using unfair advantage against the competition. I think the rest of the world should do better and resist China's anticompetitive strategies. Let's not forget that banning Huawei from using American technology is not much different than China banning for years now all foreign services like Google, WhatsApp and whatnot within their realm.

13. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

"Huawei has endless funding support by the Chinese government and therefore stifles the competition of Nokia and Ericsson" I wonder how the Huawei apologists will explain that one. And I'm glad you mentioned that part about China banning services from other companies in other countries. I forgotten all about that. I forgot that China for the longest had Google banned, but no one but you mentioned that. That's alarming that Huawei has the backing of the Chinese government at their hands while the others have to make do in a free market. I don't think it's fair competitively. And that's not including Huawei's questionable reputation.

29. raky_b

Posts: 420; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

China is not banning Google, but Google has desided that it won't play by Chinese rules... You can like it or not, but their country their rules. And by the way, US is funding their agriculture, Apple and can you tell me how did they save banks after crisis 10 years ago???

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