T-Mobile's CTO says a Sprint-MetroPCS hook up would have network problems

T-Mobile's CTO says a Sprint-MetroPCS hook up would have network problems
With speculation that Sprint will make a higher bid for MetroPCS and bust up the T-Mobile-MetroPCS deal that both carrier's boards have agreed to, the CTO of the nation's fourth largest carrier warns that a Sprint/MetroPCS merger would lead to network problems for Sprint. T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray spoke Monday via Conference Call at the Sanford C. Bernstein investor conference and called Sprint's network "a dying technology". Ray added that T-Mobile's plan is not to run two separate networks as Sprint did with its purchase of Nextel in 2005. Ray said that T-Mobile will close down Metro's CDMA network after the acquisition closes.

Despite Ray's comments, some analysts are concerned about combining T-Mobile's HSPA+ and its upcoming LTE pipelines with the CDMA and LTE network. T-Mobile's plan is to take MetroPCS customers off the CDMA spectrum on onto a combined LTE network running on AWS spectrum. Ray sees all of MetroPCS' customers moved by 2015 thanks to the pre-paid carrier's 60-65% handset turnover rate.

T-Mobile and MetroPCS will be compatible with their LTE networks.MetroPCS uses 1700 MHz AWS spectrum for LTE which is what T-Mobile will use when it builds out its network next year. When it comes to 4G LTE, Sprint currently uses its 1900 MHz PCS spectrum. T-Mobile is refarming its own 1900 MHz spectrum for its 4G HSPA+ pipeline.

Ray has said that a merger between T-Mobile and MetroPCS won't have to knock down any huge technological barriers. MetroPCS' current handset lineup would be replaced by models that run on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.

source: AllThingsD



1. ak101

Posts: 1; Member since: Oct 09, 2012

if sprint is dying technology then tmobile is already dead technology

7. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Yeah, because a global standard HSPA+ is dead while WiMax and CDMA are full of life and getting strong adoption rates... /s

16. richardyarrell2011

Posts: 510; Member since: Mar 16, 2011

That's a comical statement to say the least. Tmobile and it's HSPA PLUS 42MPS network simply s**ts all over Sprint Cdma poor reception network. Comparing GSM which is Tmobile and CDMA which is Sprint and Verizon is useless at best. Sprint and Verizon is useless and so is it's Lte networks.

20. lsutigers

Posts: 832; Member since: Mar 08, 2009

And T-Mobile is the best there is, isn't it? CDMA and GSM are different and competing technologies. Most carriers adopting LTE are moving away from both CDMA and HSPA+ is favor of LTE for data AND voice. I know LTE is based on GSM tech but HSPA will also be going away as EVDO, so I guess you could say they are both dying technologies as they will eventually be replaced by LTE. BTW, Sprint's network doesn't have bad reception, their coverage is better that T-Mobile's in most of the country and while their data is slower right now, they are adding LTE which will make their network much faster than WiMAX ever was. Just clearing up the facts.

23. ahhxd717

Posts: 332; Member since: Dec 08, 2011

While you can say that both HSPA+ and CDMA are dying networks, at least HSPA is still heavily used in many countries. A lot of other countries do not have widespread LTE or any at all. While LTE will become a widely adopted standard, it's not right now. On the other hand, CDMA is pretty much proprietary, and no upgrades have been given to the technology in forever. That's why Verizon made the move to LTE so quick. CDMA is truly a dying technology.

24. N.Reynolds

Posts: 257; Member since: Feb 15, 2011

If you say Sprint and Verizon are useless and so are their LTE networks you are an idiot. Yeah as Isutigers stated Sprint's 3G is slow but they are expanding their LTE white TMobile doesn't even have one yet. As for Verizon, you are a complete moron. Both Verizon and Sprint s**t on TMobile in covereage and Verizon 4G will beat TMobile's all day. Stop fudge packing for TMobile and get a different picture you look like an idiot.

29. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Not to mention how awful T-Mobile's 3G coverage is. You can complain about Sprint 3G but at least they have a lot of it. T-Mobile lacks coverage period! Sprint 3G>T-Mobile 2G. Now I will say this, Tmobile's data infrastructure is strong where they have signal. It seems as tho T-Mobile abandoned rural markets to enhance quality of those in cities where Sprint has reached out to more consumers.

37. archangel9

Posts: 233; Member since: Feb 07, 2010

Agreed. GSM and CDMA are two different technologies no doubt but Sprint's CDMA has been abysmal the past several months even with WiMax and now the switch to LTE. Tmo's coverage is vastly superior to Sprint's and just as fast as ATT via Rootmetrics. So I suggest you guys stop being trolls and act like rational men and discuss this intelligently w/o the name calling because this deal will be approved.

38. meowcenary

Posts: 187; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Have you ever used Sprint? I use to be a Sprint user and I can tell off the bat their network works offshore, all parts of my city, and in the subway. Presently offshore, certain parts of my city, and in the subway T-mobile is blacked out.

40. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Yo archangel let's look at 3G coverage via Verizon ad. Sprint is in the Green, T-Mobile is in the purple. http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/att-sprint-tmobile-verizon-3g-data-network-coverage-comparison.png Its 2 year old data but T-Mobile isn't exactly going out to add many 3G towers. On a side note T-Mobile may work better in your area but Sprint has more coverage nationwide, has bigger roaming partners, has FAR LESS dropped calls than T-Mobile and have already an established LTE network. Your the Troll Archangel :)

41. archangel9

Posts: 233; Member since: Feb 07, 2010

Hey Ruckus. You need to grow up and re read my statement. Normally I'll ignore comments like yours but your ego gets the best of you.I'm entitled to my facts as anyone else on here .okay "Yo".

43. EclipseGSX

Posts: 1770; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

He did read your statement and told you that you're wrong, which you are. Maybe you need to grow up and face the facts.

44. archangel9

Posts: 233; Member since: Feb 07, 2010

and you are?....SYPAU little boy and stay out of grown folks business keyboard thug

42. archangel9

Posts: 233; Member since: Feb 07, 2010

Had them for a year .Even here in S.Fl 4g is still sporadic and the 3g cant barely put a dent in big structures.Verizon is waaay better than them in terms of this as well as Tmobile.If I didnt know what i was talking about I wouldn't be on here my man.

45. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Bahaha :'-) Archangel, you make me laugh. I love how you quickly move your statement partially away from T-Mobile and compare Sprint to Verizon. By the way, I totally read what you had to say and laid the smackdown on your candy ***. T-Mobile has a lot of 4G, I'm not denying that. What they lack, is overall coverage and many area's still dampened with 2G data. Sprints 3G may be slower than at&ts and only as fast as Verizons 3G, but Sprint blankets their network with 3G where T-Mobile still relies on an old outdated 2G network. Sure T-mobile can put a lot into their 4G network, but at the expense of millions of subscribers stuck way back in the past. Now listen, I happen to deal with all 4 networks and know strengths and weaknesses. I'll even go as far to defend you in saying maybe in your area where you "live" T-Mobile may be superior there. Unfrotunately for your, thats not true with most americans. Sprint has by far better coverage friend.

2. wreh3

Posts: 25; Member since: Apr 19, 2010

lol. true; cuz T-mobile can't reach most parts of Mississippi and some of the deep South States towns and cities

14. cptbeatstix

Posts: 101; Member since: Jul 19, 2012

Yeah, because putting a tower out where the population is less than 1,000 people is great spending of money....

31. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Sprint does it.. It can be great spending it. There are millions of Americans in small rural markets. If T-Mobile ever wants to be serious they will need to expand in small rural areas. Sprint has 5x the coverage of T-Mobile in my area and sales show it! Not to mention you have to look at who's traveling through there. Of its a heavy traffic area, it'd be embarrassing not having coverage where your competitors do!

34. Moneyman12

Posts: 3; Member since: Oct 10, 2012

I'm pretty sure some of Metro PCS towers will help with that and all companies have dead spots in some part of the countries so all competitors should be embarrassed.

3. JKING_25

Posts: 53; Member since: Sep 12, 2012

In my own opinion Sprint is horrible. It is without a doubt the worse service I have ever had in my entire life. The customer service is very polite but very misleading. They have told me numberous times that whenever I do not have service in an area that no one has service in that area, but all of my co-workers and assocites have great signal with other carriers, even T-Mobile. Sprints internet speed is ridiculously slow. I am thankful that they still have unlimited data but my lord how slow can you be!!

12. e.wvu unregistered

Yea, I'm a Sprint customer as well, but I'm leaving them at the end of the month. I don't know the area that you're in, but I get horrible service in my area that unlimited data isn't even worth it. I think I'll whether pay for capped data and get descent speeds from AT&T or Verizon. I rarely use 2GB anyway (on wifi a lot) so it doesn't really matter.

13. tuminatr

Posts: 1103; Member since: Feb 23, 2009

depends where you live, here in West saint paul,MN my Sprint works great however my verizon sucks!! I am a traveling salesman and I have a work provided Verizon Iphone and my personal phone is a Sprint Galaxy Nexus coverage in minnesota is on par with verizon, in North Dakota verizon is a little better and in central and western wisconsin my sprint works a little better

21. lsutigers

Posts: 832; Member since: Mar 08, 2009

This sounds like all of the AT&T network bashing a few years back when AT&T first got the iPhone and their service took a big hit, Sprint is going through this now. And yes, it really depends where you are, Sprint service is great in many areas, in others they are doing upgrades which is affecting network speeds and the rest are over capacity and have not been upgraded yet. The bottom line is they are re-building their entire network to bring them back where they were, I remember the days where Sprint had the fastest data network. I understand the frustrations but they are working on fixing the problem, they just need to hurry up. At least I still have my personal Verizon phone until my area gets upgraded then I'm switching to Sprint.

25. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

I hate Sprint too. I'm totally going to either Tmo or AT&T when my contract is done.

32. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Id recommend at&t. T-Mobile lacks so much signal. Sure their 4G is fast, but they lack 3G and have so many areas stuck in 2G. Sprint has superior coverage and their network is covered in 3G. We have such high churn on T-Mobile its not even funny.

35. Moneyman12

Posts: 3; Member since: Oct 10, 2012

Can't give someone advice on coverage if you don't know where they live....

36. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Valid point. Dooley noted :-D

39. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Alright. Thanks, that's what I was thinking. AT&T's network coverage is comparable to Verizon's. In other words, great. Most of the coverage is HSPA+, too! :o

4. Slammer

Posts: 1515; Member since: Jun 03, 2010

CDMA maybe a dying technology, however, it will still be around for at least several years. This would allow MetroPCS customers an immediate seemless transition without costly handset offers. This would also allow both carriers to build out the LTE networks. John B.

8. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

It will last only as long as the carriers support it. verizon is going to VoLTE, as is sprint, which will lead to their current 3G networks being refarmed for VoLTE and LTE-Advanced. That would leave only a few holdouts, as most CDMA carriers are MVNOs or smaller localized carriers (nTelus, cspire)

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