Samsung loses (another) patent battle against Apple
posted by Ray S. / Nov 28, 2012, 6:22 AM
In this latest episode, we see Samsung losing a case that has to do with Apple's patent dealing with scrolling in the gallery. To be more specific, Samsung is now required to update all of its devices running Android 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3, in order to implement a different way of handling scrolling in the gallery. This has to be done within 8 weeks, or else Samsung is going to feel the wrath of the Netherlands court, which has made the ruling. In this case, this means a payment of about $128,974 (EUR 100,000) a day, as reported by SamMobile.
Naturally, Samsung's Benelux division has issued a statement, letting the world know how disappointed they are with this decision. Disappointed or not, though, those guys better start working on a fix, if they don't want to start losing hard-earned money to their biggest rival.
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Seriously who gives a f*ck anymore... I don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of all these patents.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 6:27 AM 18
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so true its getting old and I hate to say it but Samsung is starting to act like apple.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:02 AM 8
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Those design ideas was samsung's it' sad that when they brought those ideas to Apple they didn't patent them COME ON APPLE FANS DO YOUR DANG RESEARCH. APPLE GET IDEAS FROM ANDROID ALL THE TIME BUT DO YIU SEE OTHER COMPANIES SUING LIKE APPLE!! NO!! THEY DIDN'T EXPECT SAMSUNG TO CREEP UP ON THEM! IM SO SICK OF APPLE AND THAT STUPID PATENT STUFF ITS RIDICULOUS!! HOW BOUT GOOGLE AND OTHER ANDROID MAKERS PATENT THEIR IDEAS SO APPLE WONT TRY TO SUE!!! APPLE YOU SUCK AS A COMPANY I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANYMORE OF YOUR PRODUCTS EVER AGAIN!! SAD EXCUSE FOR A COMPANY.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 10:27 AM 5
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ohplease get real! Sammy is defending....its the victim here and the only one who is acting like Apple is Apple itself! Crappy neitherlands court gives a crappy ruling....Apple cant win in US or UK anymore so hey lets go to neitherlands...next to spain, malta, mauritius basically anywhere to spend time doing patent crap rather than apologising to its customers and making up for the failure of a cheap quality product like the iPhone 5!
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 9:17 AM 9
Everyone should care because the more patents/cases one company wins, the less innovations the rest can use.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:08 AM 1
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I'm worried that apple will ask for the patent of all smartphones in near future.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 6:33 AM 3
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Hurrah!! A new update is on the way for my Galaxy Tab :D Jokes apart, its going to be a very difficult job for Samsung, considering that they themselves must have a hard time keeping updated with the amount of devices they have released with Android 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3. If anything, I think its recommendable to avoid any possible updates for owners of Sammy smartphones/ tablets with those android versions as it may break your device.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 6:43 AM 0
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Nope, not even close to being true - all of my updates I get from XDA - my Captivate is running Jelly Bean 4.2 as we speak.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 8:41 AM 1
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Keep doing so apple. You're going into the history as an embarrassment for the IT world. Users will stays with their choise, independent on apple's attempts to damage other companies reputation. Apple increasing it's dark karma, so much hate in their direction, could not simply flying over.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:07 AM 3
Cell phone patents should be like pharmaceuticals, after a set amount of years they become null and voided so everyone can use them. The amount of patents issued and in use are insane, it's impossible to make a cell phone without using someone else's patents.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:13 AM 2
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All patents are like that, it's just that the number of years it takes to go generic (I think it's around 20 or so) means they will be useless for smartphones by the time they do. Will anyone honestly care about bounce-scrolling in 2025?
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 11:11 AM 0
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Why isn't UK as strict as Netherlands? Oh.. and to those who said that they are sick and tired about the patent war... what did you people do? you don't have to defend either company or invent new stuff to beat the competition. all you do after going on with your lives is to sit there and absorb the news. there's nothing tiring about that. meanwhile, those companies have a multi-billion market at stake. I'M sick and tired of seeing your 'sick and tired' posts
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:26 AM 1
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Patent for “scrolling” C’mon seriously?!? Its like a bad joke…From a company that allegedly focuses so hard on driving "innovation", I hardly think a patent for a simple visual feature such as scrolling (which is also 99.9% of the time oblivious to the user) is anywhere close to being innovative!!! Apple is playing mockery of its reputation by fighting over an absolutely petty feature like “animation” in the gallery. What a low this is in the "IT" world..
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:37 AM 4
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Since Apple did the patented the rounded-corner rectangular device, I expect anything from them now... What a shame, "Innovation" according to Apple means killing the competition by any means necessary, including ridiculous patents that already exist in previous devices. Personally I care less about the animation of the gallery (like you said, most of the time the user is oblivious to this), I just want to see that the photos I shot are stored and have good quality. These are dark times for the cellphone companies. For us consumers is just a fight between giants, but If you see it in another level, is the end of true innovation. I believe Nokia has really done very well hardware-wise (R.I.P. Symbian), Microsoft as well with tile-based windows 8 (not my favorite, but is something different), RIM (nothing new compared to current OS, but who knows), Google (Android may not be perfect, but it's so good that became the most used OS in no time), and finally that silver fruit (innovative during their first launch, but then... Siri ...later... one more row of apps... LOL)
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 8:04 AM 4
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They've probably got the fix in the can. But they can't force anyone to update, and unless its packaged with something more important, people probably won't.
posted on Nov 28, 2012, 7:55 AM 0
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