Samsung loses (another) patent battle against Apple

Samsung loses (another) patent battle against Apple
Did you miss having a constant stream of news stories about patents? Don't worry, we're back at it again, as Apple and Samsung continue to wage their war in the courtroom.

In this latest episode, we see Samsung losing a case that has to do with Apple's patent dealing with scrolling in the gallery. To be more specific, Samsung is now required to update all of its devices running Android 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3, in order to implement a different way of handling scrolling in the gallery. This has to be done within 8 weeks, or else Samsung is going to feel the wrath of the Netherlands court, which has made the ruling. In this case, this means a payment of about $128,974 (EUR 100,000) a day, as reported by SamMobile.

Naturally, Samsung's Benelux division has issued a statement, letting the world know how disappointed they are with this decision. Disappointed or not, though, those guys better start working on a fix, if they don't want to start losing hard-earned money to their biggest rival.

via: SamMobile

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42 Comments

1. Lawliet

Posts: 160; Member since: Jul 02, 2012

Seriously who gives a f*ck anymore... I don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of all these patents.

7. ajac09

Posts: 1482; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

so true its getting old and I hate to say it but Samsung is starting to act like apple.

14. xtremesv

Posts: 299; Member since: Oct 21, 2011

Samsung is just trying to defend themselves. I don't often see news about Samsung suing other tech companies the way Apple is doing fiercely.

17. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Can't really fault apple for trying to get the royalties they deserved for having their designs copied.

27. THETECHTEAM

Posts: 82; Member since: Dec 12, 2011

Those design ideas was samsung's it' sad that when they brought those ideas to Apple they didn't patent them COME ON APPLE FANS DO YOUR DANG RESEARCH. APPLE GET IDEAS FROM ANDROID ALL THE TIME BUT DO YIU SEE OTHER COMPANIES SUING LIKE APPLE!! NO!! THEY DIDN'T EXPECT SAMSUNG TO CREEP UP ON THEM! IM SO SICK OF APPLE AND THAT STUPID PATENT STUFF ITS RIDICULOUS!! HOW BOUT GOOGLE AND OTHER ANDROID MAKERS PATENT THEIR IDEAS SO APPLE WONT TRY TO SUE!!! APPLE YOU SUCK AS A COMPANY I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANYMORE OF YOUR PRODUCTS EVER AGAIN!! SAD EXCUSE FOR A COMPANY.

42. Zero0

Posts: 592; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

What's legally theirs and what's morally theirs are two entirely separate entities. They're legally entitled to royalties, but they don't "deserve" them. Apple didn't invent scrolling.

18. groupsacc

Posts: 232; Member since: Feb 28, 2012

Did you even read the article?

26. PhenomFaz

Posts: 1236; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

ohplease get real! Sammy is defending....its the victim here and the only one who is acting like Apple is Apple itself! Crappy neitherlands court gives a crappy ruling....Apple cant win in US or UK anymore so hey lets go to neitherlands...next to spain, malta, mauritius basically anywhere to spend time doing patent crap rather than apologising to its customers and making up for the failure of a cheap quality product like the iPhone 5!

28. THETECHTEAM

Posts: 82; Member since: Dec 12, 2011

I AGREE

41. serious9010

Posts: 254; Member since: Jul 20, 2012

that's right, caps lock the s**t outta phonearena

43. Lawliet

Posts: 160; Member since: Jul 02, 2012

No !

9. Aeires unregistered

Everyone should care because the more patents/cases one company wins, the less innovations the rest can use.

31. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

...which leads to even more innovations being made.

2. an4564

Posts: 39; Member since: Jul 17, 2012

these 2 need to grow up and stop pointing fingers. everyone is starting to hate them

3. Thephonegeek

Posts: 118; Member since: Nov 22, 2012

I'm worried that apple will ask for the patent of all smartphones in near future.

25. Gary123

Posts: 7; Member since: Sep 19, 2012

i totally agree with you...

4. phljcnth

Posts: 548; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

You patent such a thing? Damn, the world is full of selfishness. :(

5. mercorp

Posts: 1045; Member since: Jan 28, 2012

You can't patent the bounce scroll...

6. shikhar

Posts: 28; Member since: Aug 14, 2011

Hurrah!! A new update is on the way for my Galaxy Tab :D Jokes apart, its going to be a very difficult job for Samsung, considering that they themselves must have a hard time keeping updated with the amount of devices they have released with Android 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3. If anything, I think its recommendable to avoid any possible updates for owners of Sammy smartphones/ tablets with those android versions as it may break your device.

22. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Nope, not even close to being true - all of my updates I get from XDA - my Captivate is running Jelly Bean 4.2 as we speak.

32. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Shikhar obviously forgot that the vast majority of smartphone users regularly flash ROMs from XDA and spend hours tinkering with their phones...

8. neurobiologist

Posts: 89; Member since: Nov 07, 2012

Keep doing so apple. You're going into the history as an embarrassment for the IT world. Users will stays with their choise, independent on apple's attempts to damage other companies reputation. Apple increasing it's dark karma, so much hate in their direction, could not simply flying over.

10. Aeires unregistered

Cell phone patents should be like pharmaceuticals, after a set amount of years they become null and voided so everyone can use them. The amount of patents issued and in use are insane, it's impossible to make a cell phone without using someone else's patents.

33. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

All patents are like that, it's just that the number of years it takes to go generic (I think it's around 20 or so) means they will be useless for smartphones by the time they do. Will anyone honestly care about bounce-scrolling in 2025?

11. someones4

Posts: 627; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Why isn't UK as strict as Netherlands? Oh.. and to those who said that they are sick and tired about the patent war... what did you people do? you don't have to defend either company or invent new stuff to beat the competition. all you do after going on with your lives is to sit there and absorb the news. there's nothing tiring about that. meanwhile, those companies have a multi-billion market at stake. I'M sick and tired of seeing your 'sick and tired' posts

12. Abbath

Posts: 99; Member since: Sep 16, 2012

Patent for “scrolling” C’mon seriously?!? Its like a bad joke…From a company that allegedly focuses so hard on driving "innovation", I hardly think a patent for a simple visual feature such as scrolling (which is also 99.9% of the time oblivious to the user) is anywhere close to being innovative!!! Apple is playing mockery of its reputation by fighting over an absolutely petty feature like “animation” in the gallery. What a low this is in the "IT" world..

16. Valdomero

Posts: 592; Member since: Nov 13, 2012

Since Apple did the patented the rounded-corner rectangular device, I expect anything from them now... What a shame, "Innovation" according to Apple means killing the competition by any means necessary, including ridiculous patents that already exist in previous devices. Personally I care less about the animation of the gallery (like you said, most of the time the user is oblivious to this), I just want to see that the photos I shot are stored and have good quality. These are dark times for the cellphone companies. For us consumers is just a fight between giants, but If you see it in another level, is the end of true innovation. I believe Nokia has really done very well hardware-wise (R.I.P. Symbian), Microsoft as well with tile-based windows 8 (not my favorite, but is something different), RIM (nothing new compared to current OS, but who knows), Google (Android may not be perfect, but it's so good that became the most used OS in no time), and finally that silver fruit (innovative during their first launch, but then... Siri ...later... one more row of apps... LOL)

13. mydi.maus unregistered

cheap change for samsung.

15. ibap

Posts: 865; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

They've probably got the fix in the can. But they can't force anyone to update, and unless its packaged with something more important, people probably won't.

23. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

ibap, this patent case has been rendered pointless as most of those in the World that own a Samsung Android phone have at least 2.1 or better on their phones.

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