Samsung already delivering 14nm A9 chipset samples for the iPhone 7 to Apple

Samsung already delivering 14nm A9 chipset samples for the iPhone 7 to Apple
Apple is already getting the first samples of its next-generation A9 chipset from none other than Samsung's state-of-the-art semiconductor plant in Austin, Texas, a Korean publication claims. Samsung has won back the trust of Apple with its shovel-ready 14nm FinFET production process, while the TSMC foundry's 16nm wafers can only start being cut in mass quantities in the second quarter of next year, it seems. 

In any case, mass production of Apple's new A9 will probably be split between the two competing foundries next year, but it's the advancements in chip-making technology that it brings which are interesting for us, as these are likely to end up boosting the iPhone 6s/7 features. 

As usual, with the move to a new production process (the current A8 is built on 20nm), we will be witnessing a significant drop in power consumption, while at the same time increasing performance. The jumps are not as jaw-dropping now as with previous intergenerational changes, as the 14nm process is said to bring a 20% performance boost with a 35% reduction in power consumption, but, knowing Apple, there will be much more tricks up the A9's sleeve than that, especially in the graphics and co-processing departments.

source: ET via Pocket-lint



1. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Apple need Samsung more than the other way around.

3. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Nobody cares.

6. AnTuTu

Posts: 1596; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Apple and all iFans do lolzz

22. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Then why are you posting? Are you a "nobody"? Because last time I checked, it is impossible for "nobody" to make posts.

31. Bertelgeus

Posts: 126; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

Wow, Samsung is DESPERATE to gain Apple back as THE big customer.

7. jaytai0106

Posts: 1888; Member since: Mar 30, 2011

I think they need each other equally. Apple has the cash to create their own factories if they want to. However, they are going to the cheap option for short term.

8. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

14nm is unique to Samsung for now.

18. guest

Posts: 371; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

Actually it's unique to Intel for now. The reason the performance gains are not jaw dropping is because it's not a full shrink to 14 like intel is. The cost per transistor is also going up because they aren't doing it right.

32. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

As guest had said intel and samsung 14nm process are different. Apple fan can smash Samsung for all they want but intel is not ARM licensee so only Samsung can make their 14mn chip. Sorry!

16. xfire99

Posts: 1205; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

Have the cash to build own factories, is not same as have the technology to produce 14nm FinFET chips. So its not that Apple can do whatever they want with the cash.

19. guest

Posts: 371; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

More like don't have the engineering talent. Everyone can buy the same tools but it's how you use them that counts.

23. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

What are you smoking dude. Samsung makes their own stuff, and they make stuff for other. What product has Apple ever made. NONE. Apple needs suppliers because their products are made up of components from other companies None of Apple products are Apple's. They buy them and brand them as their own. The only thing inside Apple devices Apple can call theirs is the CPU. Because they like Samsung, are ARM licensees, and since they pay for the license they get to put their own name on THEIR design. Samsung was making components and phones long before Apple was even though of. Samsung is a much older company than Apple. Samsung has far more money. The difference is, each company inside Samsung must be able to handle their own business. Samsung Mobile and Electronics is only a small part of Samsung. If Samsung lost Apple as a customer, sure just like any company that services other company, hey will lose money. But the fact remains is simple, if Samsung lost Apple Samsung will still be fine as Apple however would struggle to replace the capabilities Samsung offers. They already tried and failed. TSMC makes good components, but they cant make them at the yields Samsung can. ITS THAT SIMPLE. Samsung is 10x's the company Apple is, how are they equal. Samsung has one of the worlds tallest buildings, they have the worlds largest cargo ships, they make phones, appliances, construction equipment and more. Name one product Apple has made. That's right. NONE. Apple CPU is designed by Apple, but it is based on ARM's designs.

12. Ethos unregistered

samsung is key for many other consumers / purchasers.. in other semiconductors ..

21. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Yes. Just like switching to GEICO can save you up to 15%, everyone knows that. The problem is, the fans thinks its the other way around. Samsung has never needed Apple, will never need Apple. Apple is Samsung's customer. I know Samsung loves having Apple money, especially after Apple tried to sue them for the most lame attack ever done in the mobile industry. Samsung I am sure does business with a lot of enemies, all companies do. But Apple is Samsung's worse enemy by far. Any company that would file a frivolous lawsuit against a hardware partner is either stupid or ignorant or both.

30. jack123

Posts: 278; Member since: Jan 07, 2013

It's all about money, not about who needs who more.

27. Salazzi

Posts: 537; Member since: Feb 17, 2014

Actually Samsung needs Apple more. It needs the money more than Apple needs THEM (keyword) to be their chipset producers.

2. TyrionLannister unregistered

Can this mean Samsung next gen exynos will be 14 nm( in the note 5/alpha 2 )?

4. vincelongman

Posts: 5653; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Most likely I don't think Samsung's 14 nm process will be ready for the S6 Also I wonder if Qualcomm will let Samsung produce 14 nm 810s

14. pulkit1

Posts: 354; Member since: Jul 03, 2014

that is not how it works . qualcomm gives / sells complete soc not design . 810 will use 20nm process . Note 5 has good chance of having a 14nm chip.

5. vincelongman

Posts: 5653; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Sweet I hope Samsung win back Apple's production I want TMSC to focus on AMD and Nvida GPUs Some new GPUs for 4K gaming and VR would be nice

9. Spedez

Posts: 542; Member since: Aug 29, 2014

Interesting that they are helping Apple to destroy their own market share.

17. Iodine

Posts: 1474; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

Interesting that they were making better chips for Apple (A7) than for themselves.

10. AfterShock

Posts: 4146; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

So the current Apple soc is 20nm an is only on par with Snapdragon an other OEM silicone that are at 28nm an less in some cases? And its 64 on top of that 20nm soc advantage an still with a dumbed down OS it just competes?? I never realized they were bringing grade A material an just making grade B class, bahaha Apple.

11. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

Take note Qualcomm

13. Loubielou

Posts: 603; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Samsung needs more than Apples when your "Chips" are Down,Why?do Samsung help the Company that is making them Struggle seems totally Odd,Make Apple Struggle then you get more Stronger and they will then realise that they will not be to popular

15. aba71983

Posts: 807; Member since: Jul 24, 2014

Samsung knows how to make best chips in any Apple product.

24. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

In product period. Every electronic device sold in the world has a chip from Samsung. When I say every, that doesn't mean 100%. It does mean 99.9% as the changes of you finding a product that is electronic that doesn't have something from Samsung is almost NIL.

35. AmirBudi

Posts: 88; Member since: Mar 21, 2014

But, I can't find Samsung product in high-end audio device. I don't see Samsung in Krell, Mark Levinson, Audio Research, Wilson Audio, Martin Logan, etc

20. vishalaestro

Posts: 81; Member since: Dec 08, 2013

still don't know why samsung can't fit these processor's within their phones,maybe apples design is excellent than the samsung exynos and the qualcomm offerings

25. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

They can. Also look the Note 4 and iPhone 6 plus. The Note has a larger battery, larger logic board, larger camera, larger display, and the housing for the S-Pen and yet the device is still smaller than the iPhone 6 Plus. Are you really gonna sit their sane say Apple designs stuff better? AT least My Note 2, 3 and 4 have never bent in my pocket.

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