Don't count out TSMC in battle for Apple A9 production
posted by Alan F. / Oct 17, 2014, 10:02 AM
On Thursday, TSMC announced that this mass-production would be taking place in the second quarter, not the third quarter as originally expected. This could be a sign that TSMC is already planning to supply Apple with the chip that will be used on its next-gen iDevices. Still, there is no guarantee that the company would be starting production in time to run off enough chips to cover the millions of next-gen iPhones and iPads that Apple will sell next year.
Considering that Samsung will be able to run 14nm chips off its line in time for the Apple iPhone 7, it could be that Samsung has locked up this business anyway. Most likely, we won't know for sure who wins this battle until some time next year. TSMC announced the change in its production schedule while releasing its latest quarterly earnings report. The news, while still vague, is just enough to keep TSMC alive as a potential chip supplier to Apple for next year.
source: TaipeiTimes via GforGames
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I think that Samsung will win this battle !
posted on Oct 17, 2014, 10:13 AM 1
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Why doesnt apple itself start producing them... Its not as if they have a shortage of money...
posted on Oct 17, 2014, 10:23 AM 0
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I hope TSMC wins. The Samsung empire is just too big and we need some balances.
posted on Oct 17, 2014, 1:20 PM 0
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Funny that you say that... TSMC is not only an empire of nearly the same size as Samsung. They are also a pseudomonopoly in the business, as intel only serves intel and they have around 50% of the rest of the market. Just watch the graph in this page and you´ll see how dangerous is TSMC in reality:http://www.fabtech.org/news/_a
In that graph, that little 7% that says SMIC is actually Samsung.
You may end up not rooting for TSMC that much after reading that ;) ottom_in_1q_09/
posted on Oct 17, 2014, 2:16 PM 1
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It was just to have one with a nice grahp, here you have the same from March this year:http://www.taipeitimes.com/New
And another one with more data for 2012 results:
Samsung was 4% and TSMC 50%
Now things have changed a bit and Samsung has around 7%, but it is still much smaller. 586522
posted on Oct 18, 2014, 2:50 AM 0
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Samsung being very crafty, they are able to see EXACTLY what will be in the A9 while they prepare their next gen Exynos processors to compete with them.
posted on Oct 17, 2014, 2:19 PM 0
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So?! They've seen all the other chips to. The Exynos is better than any of Apple's chips anyways, so it doesn't even matter. Seeing the design is one thing, but they can't copy iy. But they can get ideas. You think Apple doesn't do the same thing? You think Apple hasn't reversed engineered a Exynos or a SnapDragon? Shtop acting like Apple is some golden child or something.
posted on Oct 17, 2014, 3:01 PM 3
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How is exynos better than an A8X for example ? Samsung probably didn't even knew what Apple is doing with the A7 as they were caught up naughty and they don't have a 64-bit chip a year later.(not even mentioning that such thing could really hurt their manufacteuring contract) And then why you assumed that if someone dissasembles chips it has to be Apple ? They don't need to, exynos is an off-the shelf ARM design and ARM is very open about their architecture. And snapdragon ? They are using architecture with worse pCpH performance than first custom Apple core called Swift, which went out in 2012. They just went from 2 cores and 1,5 Ghz to 4 cores and 2,7 Ghz over the last 28 months. And they are also rushing 64-bit with an off-the shelf architecture as theirs is not ready yet. Maybe they did, but for what matter ?
posted on Oct 18, 2014, 2:13 AM 0
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