Report: Microsoft running behind on finishing WP8

Report: Microsoft running behind on finishing WP8
Nokia, Samsung, and HTC have a problem: They are scheduled to ship Windows Phone 8 devices in the coming weeks, but Microsoft hasn’t finished the eponymous operating system yet. This is according to The Verge, who confirms from unnamed sources that Microsoft has significantly missed their original time frame, which was supposed to involve WP8 launching in early October, ahead of the Windows 8/RT launch later that month. Now Microsoft has tentatively targeting October 29th as the software launch of WP8, with handsets set to go on sale in November.

The original timeline was apparently scuttled by a series of bugs and feature delays – apparently HTC in particular has had a difficult time eliminating the bugs from WP8 builds, and this was explicitly cited as the reason why HTC had to schedule a much later announcement of its WP8. While Samsung and Nokia have made announcements, it’s worth noting that neither launch event allowed journalists to spend any time with the devices, and subsequent PR events have either involved the handling of dummy phones, or putting live phones behind glass.

Microsoft is said to be working at a feverish pace to take WP8 gold later this week or early next. Even if they hit that date though, it puts carriers and OEMs in a bit of a bind. We analyzed this problem a bit when discussing the putative November 2nd launch date for the Nokia 920 – оnce Nokia (or other OEMs) get the final gold version from Microsoft (presumably mid-September at the earliest) they will have six weeks at best to finishing integrating and trouble-shooting the final software onto their handsets, get them to carriers, and have the carriers successfully test and certify them for launch. Verizon routinely pushed back launches by that much when they don’t like the initial round of testing (See: Verizon Galaxy Nexus), so despite Microsoft’s efforts to reduced testing time this is an exceptionally compressed timeline.

According to The Verge, some carriers may go without the usual bloatware for the initial launch to help shorten the testing period (any additional software has to be tested) and it’s easy to imagine that some OEM customizations may get squeezed out as well in an attempt to meet deadlines. But those deadlines are important – an early November launch coupled with a strong Windows RT marketing push (possibly helping to drive up interest in the new UI) would still allow the bulk of holiday shoppers to take a serious look at WP8 this year. Pushing the launch dates back by 3-4 weeks would end with December launches (possibly mid-December for Samsung or HTC), and would really gut the roll out of WP8.

Even a small delay of a week or two could place the launch of WP8 devices behind the expected onslaught of multiple Android Nexus devices this fall, making it that much harder to make a splash. We’re sure everyone is working as hard as they can, but such rush jobs also invite the risk of significant bugs slipping through – which could also hurt word of mouth. In short, the teams at Microsoft, Nokia, Samsung, and HTC need to hurry up but not do a rush job, and the initial success or failure of WP8 may depend on how well they can balance those opposing needs.

It will be a huge engineering challenge, and we certainly wish them all the best of luck. How do you see this playing out? Let us know in the comments section below!

source: The Verge



1. arsenaljimenez

Posts: 198; Member since: May 03, 2012

I just want it in my hands already :P

27. Angkor

Posts: 108; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

WP8 is still in the lab.

37. MeoCao unregistered

That's is the main reason why you should never rely on MS exclusively. Years of monopoly have taken creativity and professionalism from MS.

56. cdgoin

Posts: 614; Member since: Jul 28, 2010

Right because Apple isn't trying to be a monopoly and iOS is so innovative.. oh wait.

43. RobotMan

Posts: 145; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Another beta tester for micro soft.

2. bbonline

Posts: 38; Member since: Feb 24, 2011

Microsoft needs to get it together and release this in no time or they risk losing marketshare for another year. Not good...

32. fanboy1974

Posts: 1345; Member since: Nov 12, 2011

Exactly!!! If Micro"soft" had any backbone Windows 8 would have came out a month ago. And your going to release it after a major iPhone redesign (in Appleland 0.5 inch is major for them, not Android). Just plan stupid.

36. Alistaire

Posts: 132; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

I rather they get it right. Not in a rush. Still very happy with my WP7.5. Will definitely upgrade to WP8 when it's ready.


Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

Update: Microsoft still running behind on finishing Windows Mobile 7.5!

16. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

"windows mobile" is dead.

44. RobotMan

Posts: 145; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

That one will never finish.

4. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

Nokia needs to release the f**king 920 on all carriers except sprint of course. Polish the os and take your time. Please the 920-Verizon, ATT, Tmo!. Everyone know why ios always stable and ready for update and release after announcement? Because the os hasn't changed much since launch! Its just that every year they make little addictions to keep, you know who coming back.

6. rsiders

Posts: 1954; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

They do need to release on all carriers cause as a T-Mobile I'm really tired of the little brother affect and that's not just with Nokia but Samsung and HTC as well. ATT got the best of all Windows Phones while T-Mobile got the midrange offerings. And if T-Mobile is solely to blame for this trend, they need to get it together.

10. Rydsmith unregistered

Your last sentence hit it on the head. T-Mobile is the one to blame as they did not want the Lumia 900, they want the "little brother" phones on their line up and do not want to the higher quality experience. For example: - HTX One X vs One S

13. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

How do you explain GS3 and their short stint with GS note? Tmo is just a 4th place carrier that will never move forward or back.

30. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Yeah, G-Note about a week or two before the new G-Note is announced. Tmo needs to kick it in gear, the SIII is the only thing they've really grabbed that's good.

14. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Maybe AT&T is outbidding T-Mo for the phones?

17. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

They must of all won gs3 and iPhone on the same bid.

28. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

why except for sprint?

40. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Sprint is too heavily invested in the iFail, their current network is minimally effective at structure penetration, the only part of their current network that will still be running in 3-5 years is the new LTE that they just started rolling out, and their current business plan is unsustainable unless they have the customer base of AT&T or Verizon and customers that use their phones like they were in the late "oughts".

5. rsiders

Posts: 1954; Member since: Nov 17, 2011

I'll wait it out and see what happens. I'm counting on Microsoft to get it right though. With the new iPhone set to release and already be in the hands of consumers and the relentless releases of Android devices, Microsoft cannot afford to sit on the sidelines and watch the market share continue to be eaten up.

7. BigSupes

Posts: 10; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

"some carriers may go without the usual bloatware for the initial launch to help shorten the testing period" - You do realise that WP doesn't suffer from bloatware? All OEM apps are 'optional' and can be uninstalled on WP. Microsoft know better than anyone not to rush out software. WP is a solid and reliable platform and it's obvious Microsoft want to keep it that way.

15. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

They may be uninstallable (yay!) but I know that my Lumia came preinstalled with AT&T Navigator, AT&T Radio, Slacker Radio, MyAT&T Account Manager, AT&T Code Scanner (even though the Bing search app does code reading), ESPN (Nokia's, not AT&T's, I"ll grant), and I think a couple others. Not bad, but I could have downloaded them if I'd wanted them. Wound up uninstalling all of the above and the first stuff I was downloading came from the Nokia Collection. The N-named apps are my most populated section, with Nokia's City Lens, Drive, Maps, Music, Pulse, and Transit

55. BigSupes

Posts: 10; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

Attempting to down-play the importance of being able to uninstall these apps is weak. Try uninstalling some of the carrier/OEM bloatware on Android without rooting. . . now, that's bloatware.

8. darkvadervip

Posts: 366; Member since: Dec 08, 2010

I rather them get it right than have force closed issues like most Android phones. Don't get me wrong I own a sg3 but hate when it freezes or goes to force close on an app.

45. RobotMan

Posts: 145; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Yeh, we believe you own sg3. The KIRF version. Do you think we are all small kid here ?

9. fanboy1974

Posts: 1345; Member since: Nov 12, 2011

Take your time Microsoft. A Verizon Galaxy Note 2 is calling my name.


Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

Microsoft will outsell the Galaxy Note 2; they will sell 100,000 units (of the 10,000,000 they ship).

22. ogy_dogy

Posts: 453; Member since: Jun 29, 2012

fans of high quality flimsy plastic are we? doesnt anyone care about quality any more?

26. wassup

Posts: 565; Member since: Jun 23, 2011

Nokia is also plastic. Dude STFU about WP8, I agree it will be good, but it won't beat Android, maybe iOS

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