Piper Jaffray: iPhone users not terribly excited about the new 2017 models

Piper Jaffray: iPhone users not terribly excited about the new 2017 models
You would think that with the tenth anniversary iPhone offering several new features, fans of the device would be overly excited about upgrading to the phone that could be called the Apple iPhone X. According to Piper Jaffray analyst Michael J. Olson, people are no more excited about this year's new models than they were for last year's new product introductions, which included the Apple iPhone 7 and Apple iPhone 7 Plus.

Olson pointed out that the securities firm took a survey of more than 400 iPhone users and 16% of them said that they plan on upgrading to one of the new models this year. That is a slight increase from the 15% who said that they would upgrade last year. Additionally, 24% of those surveyed this year answered that they would "maybe" upgrade versus the 29% who responded similarly last year.

The results of the survey indicate that Apple might need to spend some time during its product announcement on September 12th, explaining to consumers why they might want to purchase the new iPhone model. Expected to be priced as high as $1199 for the version carrying 512GB of storage, the cost of the tenth anniversary phone is going to play a huge part on whether people decide to purchase it.

The premium version of the handset is expected to be the first Apple iPhone unit to employ an OLED panel. The screen shows edge-to-edge images and the Touch ID fingerprint scanner will be replaced with 3D facial recognition. An ""L" shaped battery allows for longer battery life, and wireless charging will be offered as an optional feature.

Apple will also introduce the sequels to its current iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus models. The pair are believed to be called the Apple iPhone 8 and Apple iPhone 8 Plus, respectively.

source: CNBC



1. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Nothing wowing about them according to the rumors, merely following the competition after years of staying behind.

5. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2284; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

I think your in denial...An article or an "opinion" like this doesn't influence Apple buyers...

6. seret6

Posts: 279; Member since: Aug 14, 2013

Where the hell is the article?

14. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's not an opinion, or designed to influence anyone. It was a survey, which gauged iPhone users' interest.

19. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2284; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

You just answered your own statement. A survey = an opinion... "An opinion poll, often simply referred to as a poll or a survey, is a human research survey of public opinion from a particular sample." - wikipedia

26. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

This was not an opinion poll. It was a poll of 400 people who were specifically asked if they were going to buy a new iPhone or not. This is a yes or no question that was specific. It was not an opinion. An opinion poll would have been; we asked 400 people what they thought of the anniversary iPhone rumors; as an example.

36. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

No, it's not an opinion. They asked people if they were going to buy it, not what they thought of it. It's not an opinion.

16. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Lmao. Sales figures shall decide.

18. Skizzo

Posts: 427; Member since: Jul 14, 2013

No one says it won't sell. It'll sell like hot cakes, as brand loyalists are always gonna stick with their brand, and Apple has one of the largest and most loyal fan bases. All this survey stated is that the "wow" factor seems to be deflating a bit. I hope the anniversary iPhone really is something that will push the envelope for the whole industry, but my expectations are also very subdued.

23. sgodsell

Posts: 7614; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Well 2 of 3 the iPhone's have the same screens and roughly the same design since the iPhone 6 and 6 plus. That is 4 years in a row. Everyone knows that the display screen is the most important thing on any smartphone. It's where you view and respond to everything that is done on smartphones. Now with Apple getting into and starting to push for AR, especially with AR headsets coming down the pipes. An iPhone 6, 6s, 7, 7s or 8 would make a piss poor AR headset device, because it still has a really low resolution display. The iPhone 7 display which is 1334x750 is only 667x750 with an AR headset. Btw sales don't mean that it's a great device, especially for the price users are paying. A $650 iPhone 7s/8 is certainly not worth that money. You can get Android smartphones for around $200 that will give you a better AR experience than an iPhone 7s/8 with it's single camera.

35. Lumberjack

Posts: 306; Member since: May 04, 2017

AR does not required Full HD. Even low mid range Xperia have AR. M2 was qHD.

38. sgodsell

Posts: 7614; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Okay I know you didn't read what I wrote. But I know that AR can be like a Pokemon go experience, especially while holding it in your hands, and with only one camera. Recently there have been some AR headsets that have been released. Like the Star wars, and Mira AR headsets. But those are making your smartphone into a hololens like AR experience by using your smartphone. These AR headsets split the display in two. So you can get a depth perception using both eyes. You can't get that with holding onto your smart phone with your hand(s). You can only get that with an AR headset. But since the display is split in two, then a lower resolution smartphone like the iPhone 8 (1334x750) will only give you a resolution of 667x750 with an AR headset. So to sum it up even though the iPhone 7 and 8 are more expensive, a $200 Android smartphone with a 1080p display will give you a better experience in this case.

34. AustinPaul

Posts: 159; Member since: Dec 13, 2011

So amazing - in the vast world that is the internet, you manage to be the most predictably annoying person ever. Congrats, I guess...I know you work hard at it.

25. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

No one is trying to influence anyones decisions. It simply shows that the numbers between years is about the same. At $1000+, neither Samsung or Apple are gonna sale a lot of these phones. As far as I know the US is the only country where the carriers subsidize the phone cost and let you pay a certain amount upfront or per month. In most countries even on a prepaid account, because many don't have an official form of credit system, you will need to pay most or all the phone cost upfront. Whether you are post paid or prepaid. What is gonna influence the buys this year is, basically how dumb or smart you are. For me, I just recently bought my iPhone 7 Plus, so i'm not in the market for a new phone. The last iPhone I had before this one was my 4S. For me, other than size, the difference between the two is minimal. The 7S, will get the per usual CPU, GPU, upgrades as expected, and iOS 11 doesn't look all that great, except for iPad users. Other than the camera being rotated, it is likely the 7S wont get a significant bump in specs, just like the S8 didn't have a significant sensor bump vs the S7's. The iPhone Edition/8/Next/X or whatever it ends up being, is basically a road block. If you live on this street, or basically if you can afford this phone, you will buy it. If you don't, then turn around and go get the 7S models. But if you already have a 7, the 7S is offering NOTHING to upgrade too. Same displays, same resolutions, same cameras, same design, same almost everything. So if you aren't buying the Anniversary model, then you wont be gettign anything worth upgrading too. If you already have an iPhone 6/6S/7 and you buy a 7S, you are a dummy. If you have one of those and you get the anniversary model, I think that would be a smart move.

33. AustinPaul

Posts: 159; Member since: Dec 13, 2011

*you're Sorry - grammar really does matter

39. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's most likely an autocorrect. Not a big deal.

24. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Phonearena like to put there own spin on things like this. They were saying that most people don't know about the redesigned iPhone. We are talking about the general public who don't follow tech news. All they know is that a new iPhone will be released in the Fall if that. That's why interest of these folks aren't much higher than last year. Lastly, remember that Apple broke sales records with a phone that looked like the previous model and analysist thought otherwise. Never underestimate Apple! You don't call there fans sheep for nothing!

2. thxultra

Posts: 475; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

They will sell like crazy and be in short supply. Apple does a killer job at advertising and anyone that doesn't believe this is in denial.

40. cmdacos

Posts: 4388; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

And a horrible job at supply chain making it seem even more out of reach.

3. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2284; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

Apple will continue to break its Holiday records. That's all that matters. I'm most interested in the 6.4"-6.5" iPhone Edition Plus model for 2018. It will cost a staggering $1099, $1199, $1299....Ouch!

4. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

Eh, where's the article?

7. seret6

Posts: 279; Member since: Aug 14, 2013

Exactly Some morons even commented their usual blah blah blah without even noticing there is no article to begin with

8. combatmedic870

Posts: 987; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

And.... no article...

9. darkkjedii

Posts: 31764; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I know I'm not, not in the least.

22. Lumbergh

Posts: 463; Member since: Feb 14, 2016

Given the fact you commented on this article, you are in the least bit interested lol

28. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

But he never said he wasn't interest. What he is saying according to the title is that, he isn't terribly excited, and he said "I know I am not, not the least bit." He knows he NOT excited!!! You are a stupid non-comprehending poor excuse of a troll. Before you actually try to tell someone what they are saying, maybe you should make sure you actually understand what they are saying. Because it is totally obvious you had zero clue, because all your fingers were simply ready to troll and you didnt even actually read what he said. Ignorant piece of work(and I want to use another 4 letter word) you are!!!

32. darkkjedii

Posts: 31764; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Well said TechieXP, good lookin out.

31. darkkjedii

Posts: 31764; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Thats what you say. Your mind works how it works. I'm curious as to what it'll have, then from there I'll generate interest or not, but not excitement. IPhones no longer excite me, Galaxys do. Mine shipped today. You're a troll to me dude, nothing more.

10. PhoneInQuestion

Posts: 496; Member since: Aug 20, 2017

Amateur hour on PA like usual.

11. MarmiteTheDog

Posts: 192; Member since: Jul 31, 2017

iTards will take a while to get used to modern features, nice design and a good screen.

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