Nokia exec says Google-Motorola deal won't end Android lawsuits

Nokia exec says Google-Motorola deal won't end Android lawsuits
Android has been hit hard with patents from all sides and when it announced its decision to acquire Motorola Mobility, it almost seemed like that’s the only thing Google could do to protect Android. The move was officially greeted by phone makers like Samsung, LG and HTC, but a Nokia executive said he doubts that the patent portfolio of Motorola would help Android.

"There are tens of patent lawsuits ongoing against Android. As we have understood, (Google) acquiring Motorola won't solve any of them," Nokia's intellectual property Senior Vice President Paul Melin said in an interview for Finnish magazine Talouselama.

Google and manufacturers using its platform have faced lawsuits from Apple and Microsoft, with HTC reportedly paying $5 per Android handset to Microsoft.

At the same time, license aggregator Mosaid said it is taking over more than 2,000 Nokia patents related to 2G, 3G and 4G connectivity and will manage them for a third of the revenue. It’s not exactly acquiring them as Mosaid states that it will fund it from “future licensing and enforcement revenues.” 

This could turn out to be big looking at the previous $4.5 billion acquisition of Nortel patents by a consortium of companies led by Apple. The 2,000 patents are not part of the Nokia Apple license settlement, a Nokia spokesman confirmed, but couldn’t say whether they are involved in other filings due to confidentiality. Nokia holds some 30,000 patents in its portfolio.

source: Talouselama, Mosaid via WSJ



1. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

Hmm, "There are tens of patent lawsuits ongoing against Android. As we have understood, (Google) acquiring Motorola won't solve any of them," Of course google are not stupid in the head, and they probably know this themselves (if what Nokia us saying is true). So why did they spend 12.5 billion $$$ on buying Moto ? Maybe, they are coming up with googlerola phone... ?

4. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

There where found 15 patents on Motorola's purchase that could help Google, including one patent related with making calls on a touchcreen device and having the screen turned off so you won't press any buttons. Now why would a googlerola phone help Google at all? If Google makes a moto phone then lawsuits will ho after it. Is it going to be of any use then?

11. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Easy Pete... The idea of the purchase was not to STOP the lawsuits, it was to force those other companies to settle, knowing Google can sue back. I know you love your "Google phone" conspiracy so Samsung will go all in on Bada, but this purchase was to defend itself with a good offense.

14. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

It's not really aconspiracy theory... As soon as the deal is trough, google are already making their own hardware, since they own motorola.

17. G-Reg unregistered

Reall!?!? I missed that news update that they are already making phones! I agree that they will most likely make a phone, and i hope they do. But dont say something for sure unless your the man making the decisions. Just kills your point and makes you look foolish.

18. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

you don't understand. If the deal goes trhough: Google owns motorola. motorola makes phones. = google makes phones.

21. G-Reg unregistered

No, YOU dont understand how major companys work. Hell look at HP who just sued a company THEY hired. If you could see that things rest in gray areas instead of black and white you may understand this concept. Just becasue a company is bought, doesnt mean anything will change production wise. Its just a different guy way up the chain making the money. Go ahead and sit in your mess of assumptions and halfas thought processes. The fact is im right and you have no way to prove google will infact make any phones with there tag on it and not motos.

25. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

It is not hard to understand. Google buys moto for 12.5 billions $$$. Google will want to get some money back for that, they aren't just spending 12.5 billions $$$ to be nice to moto. NO ! They are spending that money thó get profit back, and they do that by making and selling their own phones. This is really not hard to understand, even a 5 year old child understands this. If you buy a manufacturing plant for 12.5 billion dollars and pay the money to the current owner. Are you just going to let that manucafturing plant sit there and do nothing, won't you start using it ?

27. G-Reg unregistered

OOOO ok. I see now. You must be assumeing that google just bought the manufacturing plant and not the company itself. Think of it as changing owners. Day to day oporations do not have to change at all for google to make money from the purchase over time. May take awhile, but the fact they are sitting on patents may make that worth it. Plus, to change the day to day opporations to include googles thought and ideads would take time. Knowing this, read your statement again. "google are already making their own hardware, since they own motorola."

2. bobfreking55

Posts: 866; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

Google will make it out of this. I have faith in Google.

3. ilia1986 unregistered

They can all sue as much as they want. NOTHING will stop Android. NOTHING will stop freedom!

5. ivanprskalo

Posts: 124; Member since: Dec 09, 2010


6. Haxagon

Posts: 8; Member since: Jun 13, 2011

Nothing WOULD stop freedom-- however, freedom's name is not Android.

8. ilia1986 unregistered

When it comes to mobile operating systems - it is.

7. Lwazi_N

Posts: 205; Member since: Jun 23, 2011

Even Nokia hasn't managed to stay unsued EVEN with their 30K patents. Nokia themselves shouldn't forget Motorola had some 17K patents and 7K pending. That is not a small number. Add that to the ones Google holds and the 1K they just acquired recently. I think this Melin guy is not so much in touch with reality. I am very sure if Google would look hard enough into the patents Motorola has, they could find quite a number of them that Nokia infringes. Let us not forget that Motorola made the world's first cellphone.

9. Mobile-X-Pert

Posts: 565; Member since: Dec 20, 2010

But Nokia made the world's first GSM phone, and the first GSM call was made in Helsinki Finland, which Nokia contributed a lot as well.

23. thedarkness unregistered

Motorla made the first cell call, ever... Mobile expert. I wonder if he even knows that he isn't talking about a phone.

24. Mobile-X-Pert

Posts: 565; Member since: Dec 20, 2010

I'm talking about the first GSM ''PHONE'' and the first GSM ''Call". If you don't believe me just google ''the first call made over GSM'' and you'll see what I'm talking about. I know the first cell phone was invented by Martin Cooper in 1973, who was working for Motorola at the time, and that phone was not a ''GSM''phone. Try to do some research man!!!!

10. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Coming from the company which just released a ton of patents to allow lawsuits to start. I have no problem with Nokia, but one one of your competitors starts saying things about you, it is not news. It is gossip.

12. gemmabba

Posts: 51; Member since: May 09, 2011

Booooo!! Mind your own business nokia exec whoever you are. You just want other android manufacturers to convert to wimo so you can fall and bankrupt together

13. G-Reg unregistered

.....Wow, idk whos the biggest idiot. The fool who works in nokia, or the tool that decided to make a whole article. Well its nice to see Phonearena is at least an equal opportunity employer.

20. G-Reg unregistered

Dont down thumb me casue im right and killed your cutesy comment. The fact is dude has no right making any speculation of that sort. To put into perspective, its like one NFL team saying that another team wont have a good season even with there #1 draft pick. Can we not see the un-importance of the comment.. REALLY!!?? Nah, you know what. I forgot half of you just spew your bent logic, ideas, and thoughts on here to see yourself on a web page.

15. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

Nokia CEO is only pay to say what the hell he wants bout Android. Since M$ is already taking 15$ per activation away from HTC. He shouldn't have to say anything at all while NOKIA isn't even selling too many units as much as Android hand sets.

16. Mobile-X-Pert

Posts: 565; Member since: Dec 20, 2010

Remember that Android phones are sold by a whole bunch of O&Ms and Nokia is only Nokia.

19. readingthissh1t

Posts: 303; Member since: Jul 20, 2011

those is some fightin' words, nokia

26. joey18

Posts: 668; Member since: Jul 20, 2010

If google makes there owns phones will be nice but android i think not is going to be for long time bcs any phone in the market is android and now are making so cheap phones like samsung or lg and copy other plataforms custumers will dc will dont know if another sofware will born and kill ios and android

29. draycol unregistered

Apples sues everyone for anything they can. Best solution? All android handset manufacturers need to BAND TOGETHER and go after Apple in a single case and just shut them out. Simple as that.

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