Judge in U.K. says HTC doesn't infringe on Apple patents, calls three Apple patents invalid

Judge in U.K. says HTC doesn't infringe on Apple patents, calls three Apple patents invalid
The patent wars that have taken over the courtrooms all over the world are becoming more and more confusing. What is a patent violation in the States might not be on on the other side of the Atlantic. In the U.K. on Wednesday, Judge Christopher Floyd ruled that HTC did not violate 4 Apple patents including the slide-to-unlock patent. But this ruling by Judge Floyd goes even deeper as his ruling says that three of the patents (including 'slide-to-unlock') are not valid. The only one of the patents that the U.K. court says was valid dealt with scrolling on the photo management app and HTC didn't even infringe on that, according to the judge.

HTC spokeswoman Andrea Sommer said, "We remain disappointed that Apple continues to favor competition in the courtroom over competition in the marketplace,”  while Apple's emailed statement said that, "Competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."

Besides the slide-to-unlock, and scrolling through photographs patents, the case involved a patent related to changing alphabets and another involving multi-touch functionality on the touchscreen. The same four patents are the subject of an HTC-Apple case to be heard in a German court later this year. Last week, the ITC ruled that HTC can still ship its latest models to the U.S. while the Agency investigates claims made by Apple that the Taiwan based manufacturer infringed on a patent that allows phone owners to search for phone numbers in an email.

source: Bloomberg

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103 Comments

1. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

Good news!

3. sorcio46

Posts: 435; Member since: Jul 27, 2011

Fantastic News ! At least in Europe we do something against the big iPatent troller !

32. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

Yes Europe does! "three of apples patents invalid" more like at least 33 are i'd say!

38. A.P.P.L.E-R.O.Y.A.L.L.Y

Posts: 4; Member since: Jul 04, 2012

True.....

42. wendygarett unregistered

British smart as always..

46. MISTER-H

Posts: 87; Member since: May 28, 2012

good bad ugly

52. Otterbox

Posts: 71; Member since: Jun 27, 2012

Justice not being served isn't good news.

56. GellerDoesDallas

Posts: 50; Member since: Mar 26, 2012

The Judge disagrees with you and Apple, accept the loss ibot.

64. Otterbox

Posts: 71; Member since: Jun 27, 2012

Justice is the only loss here. Justice against patent infringement.

98. HTCFreak

Posts: 156; Member since: Jul 17, 2010

Haha "accept the loss" When Apple wins, nobody accepts the loss, but when apple loses, you tell him to accept the loss?

61. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

No, its not. That's why the Galaxy Nexus ban has so many bummed. This story is excellent news, however. It's nice to see commn sense triumph over patent trolling. Kind of a feel good story.

75. Otterbox

Posts: 71; Member since: Jun 27, 2012

Well Europe isn't always bright when it comes to laws as you can see with the article. If justice was severed, Apple's requests would have been accepted.

86. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If justice were perfect, Apple's stolen and overly broad and obvious patents would have been laughed out of the patent office.

67. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Justice has determined the patents were invalid. There can be no infringement against invalid patents. Justice has been served by correcting a mistake in that those patents never should have been granted. The only bad news or loss here is to your bruised biased ego living vicariously through a corporate entity.

76. Otterbox

Posts: 71; Member since: Jun 27, 2012

The only thing that is invalid is companies like HTC and Samsung violating patents but not wanting to pony up the royalties. It's about protecting business and keeping the market fair.

90. thinking

Posts: 130; Member since: Jan 19, 2012

As far as I can see, Sammy and HTC have not violated patents. Some of those patents should not have been there and some others are cases where the same feature has been incorporated. That is not stealing. If I make my own bicycle using my own wheel and axle and others, that is not the same as stealing your bicycle. And in case you have been following the news, you'd realise that Apple was not the creator of the universe and just last week, they were found to have stolen some patented technology and incorporated them in the iPhone and iPad.

82. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

So....something ruled against Apple ...is wrong huh? Its only right when its in favor of Apple? Figures...

80. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

In countries that don't have strong IP rights, you won't find innovating companies. The two go hand in hand. In America, we value property rights and that's why we have so many start-ups and one of the highest per capital based on GDP.

91. thinking

Posts: 130; Member since: Jan 19, 2012

The real innovating companies are in Europe and Asia. There are a few in the US, too. The UK, and not the US, is one of the strongest backers of IP rights. You can be jailed in the Uk for downloading a pirated movie.

2. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

The British have always been know for their dry humor, stiff upper lips, politeness and tea. We can add common sense to that list, now.

26. TheRetroReplay

Posts: 256; Member since: Mar 20, 2012

I could not agree with you more

53. Otterbox

Posts: 71; Member since: Jun 27, 2012

Apparently turning a blind eye to laws being broken.

55. Ravail

Posts: 182; Member since: Oct 14, 2011

I smell an apple troll!

65. Otterbox

Posts: 71; Member since: Jun 27, 2012

I am only saying what's right.

69. Gsmalltheway

Posts: 275; Member since: Aug 15, 2009

What exactly do you think they "copied"? I have never seen "slide to unlock" on any android device. On my current device (galaxy s2 with stock ICS) i see a lock with a circle around it then you move that circle to an icon. Totally different then Apple's

70. kach22

Posts: 153; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

You are only saying what you think is right as an apple Disciple and ignoring what is fact. Why would you say something that is against your Master's rule. Unleash the buckles around your collar.

92. thinking

Posts: 130; Member since: Jan 19, 2012

So, what exactly are you saying? Instead of attacking the judge, the country, laws, etc, please bullet the points and present what you think others are copying from Apple. Then, we can talk about it.

4. aaronkatrini

Posts: 242; Member since: Jun 06, 2012

One thing you can say for sure: Htc haven't steal anything from Apple! I mean, look at their devices, not even close as design and UI to apple-made-product!

50. JC557

Posts: 1918; Member since: Dec 07, 2011

Not to mention that TouchFlo was in development for a long time and was what made WinMo 6 quite nice to use which eventually led to Sense.

93. thinking

Posts: 130; Member since: Jan 19, 2012

Actually, they have stolen from Apple. They have stolen Apple's customers and potential customers because of their high grade products.

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