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Jony Ive is dismissive of the Apple iPhone 7, Apple iPhone 7 Plus design

Jony Ive is dismissive of the Apple iPhone 7, Apple iPhone 7 Plus design

Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:19 , by Alan Friedman

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Jony Ive is not a fan of the Apple iPhone 7 Plus design that he created

What does it mean when a chef dismisses the taste of his own food? We'd say it would be similar to what Apple's design guru Jony Ive thinks about his own work on the 2016 Apple iPhone 7 and Apple iPhone 7 Plus. During an interview with Smithsonian Magazine, which you're not going to find on your local Seven-Eleven magazine rack, the executive had a rather dismissive comment about last year's iPhone model. "It now seems to me a rather disconnected component housed in an enclosure," Ive stated.

Of course, this comment must be weighed against the beauty of the Apple iPhone X, which was just unveiled this past September. The iPhone X (which many are still calling 'ex' instead of 'ten') receives high praise indeed from its head designer. Calling the tenth anniversary model "something we’ve aspired to for years," Ive revealed that the A11 Bionic chipset powering the phone took three years to design. He also confirmed an earlier report claiming that Apple never intended to put Touch ID on the iPhone X in the first place. That means that all of those rumors about embedding the fingerprint sensor under the screen, and Apple's frustration in its inability to figure out how to develop such technology, were bogus. Or False News, in the vernacular of the day. That means that there was also no "Plan B" that included a rear-facing Touch ID.

Ive did add that the edge-to-edge display on the iPhone X is exactly what he thinks a smartphone should look like. Last year, Ive also mentioned that he wanted to design an iPhone that looks like a single sheet of glass. The iPhone X is the closest that Apple's design chief has come to that dream.

source: Smithsonian.com via BGR

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posted on 30 Nov 2017, 12:28 4

1. Phullofphil (Posts: 1258; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)

The guy is really hard on himself and I think he wishes the 10 would have came out last year.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 15:06 2

23. NarutoKage14 (Posts: 1070; Member since: 31 Aug 2016)

He's been saying pretty much the same thing since the first iPhone. Ivy and the rest of Apple couldn't figure out how to fit certain tech into the X so naturally the excuse is that it's fake news. Lol.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 23:56 1

32. yann (Posts: 538; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)

Exactly. Fake news. For me face news is the "beauty" of iPhone X. Especially with that humongous camera hump.
Jony Ive lost his mojo years ago.
Putty.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 12:30 12

2. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 1757; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)

Every single iPhone that came out after 5S was total garbage design wise. Going backwards and making uglier phones is something I never expected from a company that at its core is all about design.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:40 3

9. Peacetoall (unregistered)

aside ugly camera bump iphone 6 was not that bad design it was a good attempt. not same can be said for iphone X .

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 14:29 3

17. tedkord (Posts: 16070; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

It was plain ugly. That's just aesthetics, I'm not talking about anything else. The iPhone 6 was just ugly.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 14:48 5

20. GalaxyLeads_iCrapFollows (Posts: 106; Member since: 29 Nov 2017)

The iphone X is a huge improvement for apple. But if you compare the thick bezels on the X with the elegant bezels on the Samsung edge screens, apple still has alot of catching up to do in terms of design

posted on 01 Dec 2017, 05:37 1

37. TrePharaoh (Posts: 42; Member since: 22 Oct 2013)

Personally think iPhone 8 is the best looking one next to the 4.

posted on 03 Dec 2017, 14:06

38. Nabil111 (Posts: 105; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)

Its kinda like when someone finds a formula that works, and then they just keep hammering the design and metrics into the same formula over and over and over and end up with a product 4 generations away that is garbage, but if you follow the paper trail, it ought to be good, because it "followed the formula".

"If we make it 15% smaller and 10% faster than the one before, then we can get away with shaving off 5% battery size and...."

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 12:30 8

3. apple-rulz (Posts: 821; Member since: 27 Dec 2016)

It’s time for him to take his high-and-mighty attitude and leave Apple.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 12:43 1

4. cncrim (Posts: 1114; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)

Lol, why leave Apple? Money is power, with money you can experience with different design and with money you can explore many other option. Remember without money all best design in the world just collect dust in the closet. Are you crazy leave Apple then working for who, Nokia? Then his talent will never fully take explore.

posted on 01 Dec 2017, 00:07

34. worldpeace (Posts: 1339; Member since: 15 Apr 2016)

"his talent will never fully take explore." what talent?

The only talent he have is for voice actor

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:44 3

10. Bankz (Posts: 2224; Member since: 08 Apr 2016)

Exactly.. He's past it now tbh.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:44

12. Bankz (Posts: 2224; Member since: 08 Apr 2016)

Exactly.. He's past it now tbh.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 12:46 9

5. Skizzo (Posts: 351; Member since: 14 Jul 2013)

Somebody like him will never say "yeah, you know what, we tried our best, but we just couldn't do it, but FaceID is a great alternative. Try it out."
Saying they wanted to but couldn't would be admitting defeat. Of course he'd say that they never planned to put a fingerprint sensor on the iPX. That makes them "corageous" and "innovative" as opposed to simply being pressed for time, and having to choose between something old and reliable, or something "cool" they spent millions researching, since they couldn't do both in the necessary time frame.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:40

8. PhoneCritic (Posts: 1266; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

agree

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 14:07 3

16. pali2704 (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 Feb 2015)

Even the Chinese companies have caught apple in terms of design. Apple has a lot of money but just got lazy because people just buy the "new" iPhone. I bet that if they released iPhone 8 with the looks of the 6 they still got good sales... oh, wait, they just did that. Even the f...g camera bump is there.
But that's nothing compared to the back of the X... 1000$ ... that back .. but wait, you got some silly animojis (for kids 4-10). I would give a 1000$ just for a quick thought from Steve Jobs about the X (but that would have been priceless).

posted on 01 Dec 2017, 00:10

35. worldpeace (Posts: 1339; Member since: 15 Apr 2016)

"Apple has a lot of money" But they don't want to spend it on R&D, instead they use it for making hype, lots of ads, and spreading rumors

posted on 03 Dec 2017, 14:08

39. Nabil111 (Posts: 105; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)

Don't forget spending it on lawsuits, gotta burn the money on frivolous lawsuits.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 22:10 1

28. theunspoken (Posts: 191; Member since: 06 Jul 2017)

I'm waitng for what he would say when they would embed the fps under the screen, 10 years of research blah balh...

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 12:51 7

6. Heisenberg (Posts: 302; Member since: 11 Feb 2015)

Did I just read that iPhone x is labeled a beauty? These guys just keep giving kudos to products that doesn't deserve it. I'm talking about the design and nothing else. iPhone X is the ugliest edge to edge phone that has ever been released.

The back is fugly with the placement of cameras and how it punches out which makes it wobble on a flat surface. The front is freaking fuglier. It beats me that these things aren't talked about but reviewers cos it has their favorite logo slapped behind it. How hypocritical can these guys be?

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 14:30 1

18. tedkord (Posts: 16070; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Its a good looking phone. The only real gripe is the camera bump, but that minor.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 22:11 1

29. theunspoken (Posts: 191; Member since: 06 Jul 2017)

Did you not forget the NOTCH

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:07 4

7. Xilam (unregistered)

I only don’t like the camera protrusion. The feel of all Apple devices is superb. iOS is the best operations system I’ve used (non perfect, but iOS puts the best stuff in and keeps the garbage out).

I’m happy Apple is moving away from bezels finally. I only wish the pricing was lower, but then again I can’t afford any flagship phone.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:44

11. Peacetoall (unregistered)

gotta agree IOS is not that bad and its the best aesthetically designed operating system before using Samsung c7 pro I owned iphone 5s really enjoyed it but after some period of time I got bored because of its closed ecosystem . switch it for c7 pro best decision still don't regret it.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:57 3

14. baldilocks (Posts: 1025; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)

iOS is basically an app launcher. Operating systems like Android, which give you more control over your OWN device are truly superior.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:59 1

15. cnour (banned) (Posts: 2305; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)

Very smart comment...Android is superior!!!!!

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 22:32 1

30. Cyberchum (Posts: 917; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

"...but iOS puts the best stuff in and keeps the garbage out."
.
They keep the garbages out long enough to adopt it and make them seem like gems—a garbage no more.

Pull-down Notifications and Quick toggles were garbages. File manager app was garbage (well, iOS's might be, being totally half-assed). I could go on and on

.
Apple fanboys' mentality: call something garbage until Apple borrows… sorry, copies it.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 13:52 5

13. pali2704 (Posts: 10; Member since: 11 Feb 2015)

I would feel ashamed to call the design of the iPhone X great. I'm not a designer, but I think that the back (camera bump) and that notch are just ugly. I also heard that apple worked about 5 years on this design (but I guess it's bulls**t). It's been 4 years and apple can't (or won't) make a back with no camera bump?!? Wonder what would Steve think of that... and the words he would of have for Jony Ive.

posted on 30 Nov 2017, 15:02 3

21. darkkjedii (Posts: 27407; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

I don't believe for one second, they never intended to have TouchID under the screen. They simply couldnt do it, and don't want to admit they couldn't do it.

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