Would you prefer a screen hole for the front camera instead of a notch?

Would you prefer a screen hole for the front camera instead of a notch?
Vivo tries to avoid a notch design with a pop-up front camera on the Nex, Oppo introduced an elaborate slide-out system in the Find X, and Samsung simply opts for a cold, hard bezel there, albeit of the extremely thin variety. Phone makers are trying to solve the notch-or-not conundrum in pretty inventive ways these days, but Huawei might soon one-up them all with an upcoming 6-incher, according to a Korean media report today.

Big or small for today's notch-y standards, the top bezel protrusion that houses the speaker and front camera on the Huawei P20 and P20 Pro is still there, and an eyesore for those who hate screen cutouts with passion. So, what do? Well, Huawei may have decided to avoid the subject matter altogether by simply... drilling a tiny hole in the LCD screen of its future phone to place the front camera there, and call it a design day. That'll teach them. The Essential Phone, which essentially pioneered in the West the small top protrusion we started calling a notch since Apple introduced a giant one in the iPhone X, comes to mind. Its top thingy only houses the selfie camera and is very minimalistic. 

The protrusion still connects with the top bezel, though, so Huawei may have decided to do away with the whole bezel peninsula concept, and take the drill bit to the LCD display. All fine and dandy, but apart from the camera there also needs to be a fit for the earpiece somehow, and the publication shows it might simply be incorporated in whatever top frame is left, similar to the scheme you see above. This is why we wanted to ask you what do you think about this design as a stopgap solution towards notch-less phones with minimalistic frames?

Would you prefer a screen hole for the front camera instead of a notch?

source: ETNews (translated)



1. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

I like the Vivo Nex Approach more. However that prevents the phone from having IP cert. So the best is the View 10's approach. I need some top and bottom bezels and a front FPS. It can also be an under-display FPS with smaller bezels. But please......no notches.


Posts: 202; Member since: Dec 08, 2012

Literally this! Popup camera - nice and neat!

9. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

This design is just hilarious looking.....lolzzzzz A- hole ????????????????????? Omg give me a break.

10. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Why can't they use a secondary screen using transparent LED panel in place of Notch, which was showcased by LG sometimes ago.

16. bambamboogy02

Posts: 840; Member since: Jun 23, 2012

Essential phone design...

22. AbhiD

Posts: 851; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Lol what ? Huawei/Honor ones look even more pathetic! Considerable notch up top, huge bottom bezel, asymmetrical fp sensor. All that not only takes away full screen experience but also makes the phone look ugly. God no, Vivo solution is ages better.

29. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Search up the View 10 before calling me out, you idiot! It doesn't have a notch......

26. Phullofphil

Posts: 1828; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

I am glad the bezzles are going away. Why would you want them. The whole idea is the bezzle s are slowly taken away and what’s left is where the camera is. I see it differently but it is what it is for you all as well. Preferences. If the knotch or whatever you want to call it (I hate knotch) was done right on the software side you would never notice it if you don’t want to. I personally think people mostly like there brand of phone to such weird levels that they will justify anything to prove there’s are better. As far as who came out with it first well the idea was being made on about 4 different phones well before the essentials Phone came out. So nobody copied anybody at first and as far as the cut out goes a hole is the same

2. bucknassty

Posts: 1365; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

The essential wasn't really bad... the bottom bezel though was rough... something that could have been taken care of if they were able to release a phone2

5. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Some of us hold our phone by that lower bezel, reducing it further similar to iPhone X, works against my comfort and usage. Just saying, some want different and don't see that as rough design.

18. bucknassty

Posts: 1365; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

ah, that is true too.. maybe i was thinking about more of a balanced design... i dont really see the need to be truly bezel-less.... once you put the phone in landscape to watch something having a portion to hold the phone without constantly interrupting what you're watching should be considered.

30. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

That's one of the reasons I love the Honor View 10's front. Also helps that it has a front FPS and no notch.

3. Humanoid

Posts: 1226; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Sony, Samsung and Meizu have patents of techniques to have camera under screen. Transparent oled is required.

19. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

It's doable, but transparent OLED won't be crystal clear, it will reduce the camera quality.

4. Jrod99

Posts: 776; Member since: Jan 15, 2016

No holes. Looks worse then notch.

6. hansip87

Posts: 228; Member since: Nov 10, 2015

good pictures on the wall need some frame to look good. Same thing with phones. Eliminating bezels will only make all devices look alike (after all, screens are rectangle right?)

24. Atrixboyyy

Posts: 613; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

someone would still end up getting sued over patent infringement. /s

7. antmiu2

Posts: 550; Member since: Jun 19, 2011

Hole plus top earpiece seperately woud take more space than a notch coming down from the top like the essential phone, huawei p20, etc..

11. cmdacos

Posts: 4302; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

A hole would be much better. A single dot eclipsing your media and games is far better than a unibrow.

12. TerryD

Posts: 559; Member since: May 09, 2017

Oppo. Nuff said.

13. middlehead

Posts: 462; Member since: May 12, 2014


14. Y.S.L..

Posts: 232; Member since: Jul 03, 2018

Pop up will be the next trend. No ugly POS notch or hole.

15. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Of course... No cutout > hole > small notch > big notch

17. cmdacos

Posts: 4302; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

This exactly.

20. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

The smallest top bezel they can do without a notch or a hole.

21. lyndon420

Posts: 6861; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

HTC once put an LED notification light within their speaker grill, so a camera shouldn't be too hard . Like seriously... there's nothing wrong with having a slight bezel at the top to house all the useful little gadgets we need to make these phones functional.

25. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

I agree 100 percent with you!

23. galaxian

Posts: 25; Member since: Oct 25, 2017

Why the poll does not have an option D - both are stupid UX decisions??? It is not just yes or no. Both are bad.

28. NewroticSlob

Posts: 182; Member since: May 09, 2013

They're pretty much giving in to the idea of a notch. Ugh!

27. emjoigently

Posts: 154; Member since: Aug 22, 2017

The popup camera seems like to much work for too little benefit. All for shrinking the notch. A hole seems not silly. An LCD screen that can go momentarily transparent at that spot would be even cooler.

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