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HTC may be first out of the gate with Tegra 4

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HTC may be first out of the gate with Tegra 4
We just heard some rumors about HTC's next flagship smartphone, the M7, which sounds like a pretty amazing piece of hardware that HTC is trying to push out before Samsung's flagship Galaxy S IV. But, it seems that HTC may also be pushing to be the first manufacturer with Tegra 4 devices on the market.

Based on the Tegra roadmap that NVIDIA put out a while back, the Tegra 4, codenamed Wayne is due in Q1 of 2013. The Tegra 4 Wayne will be an ARM Cortex-15 based chip that NVIDIA says will be "twice as powerful" as the Tegra 3. The first Tegra 4 chips will feature the same 4+1 processor design as the Tegra 3, and it will be clocked at 1.8GHz, so we're hoping for a solid bump in the GPU with the Tegra 4.

The trick with the Tegra 4 is that it is aimed to be a chip for tablets, and HTC has not had very good luck with tablets so far. The Jetstream wasn't bad, but it was overpriced, and the Flyer could have been a success if it had been released about 6 months earlier than it was. If this means HTC is taking another stab at tablets, once again it's jumping in at a tough time having to go up against either the Nexus 7 in the 7" market, or the Nexus 10, iPad 4, and various Windows tablet/hybrid devices in the 10"+ market. 

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posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:00 5

1. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

What is the saying - A jack of all trades is master of none? HTC needs to good at one segment before trying to play in many.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:24 2

9. MeoCao (unregistered)

Agree, Tegra and 1.8GHz? I fear for the battery life

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:27 1

10. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

Heh, Tegra... LITTLE WAYNE!!!

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:35 6

11. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

we feared for the droid dna's battery life........but what do the reports show?...... that it can hold its own right?

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:42 2

12. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

depending on what review you read...some say it makes it through the day and others say it barely makes it through half a day...what most of the reviews say is that the dna has great standby time but when the screen is actually on it uses alot more power than other phones...still you need to ask htc how moto can fit a 3300mah battery in a smaller phone than them...the dna has a bigger footprint and is unibody which is supposedly allows for bigger battery yet it has only 2020mah battery.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:52 1

14. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

haha im glad you mentioned Moto and their batteries.........Ive honestly said that to myself a couple times.....and on here a couple times too i believe...HTC should definitely give moto a call and work with them on putting a huge battery in a slim build frame phone.......that would be really cool and would COMPLETELY do away with speculation of whether or not their batteries are a problem or not

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 22:48

20. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

i dont think its that htc cant put a bigger battery but most likely choose not to. my guess it all comes down to cost. i would be more than happy to pay extra for a larger battery..

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:37

24. rocketlog (Posts: 26; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)

I think it's more of a design decision. They just want their flagship phones to be thin.

I do hope that manufacturers start going more for slightly thicker phones with longer battery life and less for the thin phones that can barely last a day of moderate use.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:52 2

27. JC557 (Posts: 1794; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)

Unfortunately I heard some whiny hipster bastard in the Verizon store the other day complaining about how brick like these phones are getting... like 8-10mm thickness is a pain to carry,

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:13 1

22. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

I don't remember exactly where, but I recall reading somewhere that Motorola patented whatever they do to pack such big batteries into their phones. I could be wrong, but that might be the reason why no other major manufacturer has gone above 3,000 mAh (except Samsung with the Note II)

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 22:06 1

16. MeoCao (unregistered)

Right, we don't know for sure how Tegra 4 will perform. But the experience with Tegra 3 is not good for battery.

I think Qualcomm does a much better job in optimizing its chips with clients' software.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 22:44 2

19. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

tegra 3 was made on 45nm where the exynos is 32nm and s4 is 28nm which is why tegra never performed that well in battery compared to others...as i understand the smaller the chip the less battery it uses aswel as being more powerful

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:40

25. MeoCao (unregistered)

Agree, shrinking the die is costly, that's why Tegra 3 is for tablets.

Nvidia looks to keep the same game plan for Tegra 4 and that's why possible HTC use of Tegra 4 seems dubious.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 22:39

18. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3117; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)

Not to mention HTC loves putting small ass batteries in their phones.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:01 1

2. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

this is the chip im interested in! good find Michael

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:10 2

6. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Meh. Tablet chip in a phone seems a bit of a stretch. Is HTC going to equip the phone with a 5,000 mAh battery?

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:17 2

7. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

maybe they'll do both ;)

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:45

26. MeoCao (unregistered)

No way, gorgeous design is HTC's trademark, but it's possible HTC will use the chip for its midrange phones with lower screen size and need for big battery?

But 1.8GHz? something does not line up very well here.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:01 1

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

niceee but HTC seems to be dropping the ball lately

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:02 5

4. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

HTC as your biggest fan.....Stop trying to be the first to the market with something and start building quality products. Not to say that your products aren't quality I'd just rather see some enhancements in sense...IDGAF about what these other people think...I don't care about expandable memory. I just wanna see more features in the next version of Sense UX.

Back to the quality thing, I need to rephrase it. I find your products to be of topnotch hardware and well optimized software, its just that the software is a tad bit stripped down for my liking. Sense is great and all and I think it looks better then Samsung's Nature UX but the gimmicks in Samsung's Nature UX just appeal to more consumers.

HTC I just beg of you to take note....and ready to get thumbed down....I gave my opinion...lol thats all....Am I the only one who seems to think this?

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:08 2

5. imkyle (Posts: 1086; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)

I'm happy with my 1.6 GHz Tegra 3 in my Infinity. Maybe the following year I will upgrade.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:19

8. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

After moving on to the Note 2, HTC and its Thunderbolt is a memory. They do have a rep for being first but whether or not that first is the best, that track record differs.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 21:47

13. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

htc have had quite a few 1st, first 720p screen,1st tegra 3 device and i think 1st 3d phone but it hasnt helped them. it seems like they always compromise to be 1st so maybe they learn and take time and release a phone when its ready...oh and please start using removable storage again and make sense less ram hungry and make it more efficient and maybe i will not walk pass htc phones when looking at my next phone( although my eyes are set on the s4)

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 22:26 1

17. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Samsung had the first 720p phone with the Galaxy Nexus. HTC had the first quad core, the first 3D, and the first 4G (Wimax).

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 22:04

15. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

i really want to see this to happen!! i want more and more powerful chips!!!

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:01

21. btbotimtim (Posts: 257; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)

I use HTC Rezound and it has somehow low app compatibility.
I cannot use scottrade, anipang, king of fighters, wsop texas holdem poker 2.. and much more...
I e-mailed HTC several times and their replies were " e-mail the developer".
Those apps work on samsung, motorola and LG
I won't buy HTC no matter what...

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:36

23. mydi.maus (unregistered)

cant wait to see what this T4 can offer,and with HTC it will be the next big thing,..

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 00:54

28. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)

Tegra 4 is A15 Cortex which means that it will be about 70% faster than A9 at the same clock speed and it will take much less battery. And Tegra is going to be build on 28 nm process so you can imagine that this SoC will draw about the same battery as S4 pro but will be clocked higher, but that is just a bonus :)

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 02:32

29. jove39 (Posts: 1976; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)

Tegra4 will be in phones as well as tablets...HTC and others have 4core krait already on phones...so wont be surprised to see it on phone first!!!!
Anything about GPU? Nvidia has been ignoring gpu aspect of soc lately.

posted on 15 Oct 2013, 09:50

34. sarge77 (Posts: 202; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)

tegra 4 72 core gpu if the go with the tegra 4i its 60 core gpu the specs for the chip itself look for nvidea shield I've seen ranges from 36k - 40k for Antutu using this chip.

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