Ex-Nokia chairman admits: "we were not successful in using Microsoft's OS"

Ex-Nokia chairman admits:
An ex-Nokia chairman who was involved in the process of selecting the new Nokia chief executive officer in 2010 claims Stephen Elop wasn’t the company’s first choice, but after a mysterious first candidate declined due to personal reasons, Elop was selected.

The mysterious executive who is said to have been the primary candidate is described as a man in his 50s, the second most important person "at a well-known American technology company," according to the former Nokia chairman Jorma Ollila. You can go on and speculate (and of course Tim Cook comes to mind right away), but the ex-Nokia executive does not mention a name.

Elop became the Nokia chief executive later in 2010 as he was considered to be "a good salesman and a decisive corporate executive.” You all know the story from there on - the “burning platform” memo that became the doomsday for Symbian, sales and revenue nosediving, Nokia adopting Windows Phone exclusively and as company’s fortunes declined it was bought for $7.2 billion by Microsoft. That’s just around a third of Nokia’s value in 2010.

The sad story continues with Ollila admitting that using Windows Phone exclusively at Nokia has failed.

"We were not successful in using Microsoft's operating system to create competitive products, or an alternative to the two dominant companies in the field,” the ex-chairman said.

At the same time, Ollila notes that it’s "impossible to say what would have happened to the company if different decisions had been made in early 2011 or at some other time."

If (or rather after) Microsoft is approved to acquire Nokia in 2014, the Finnish company will focus on its maps and network, while all phone business will now happen under Redmond rule.

source: Helsingin Sanomat via The Verge



1. pokharkarsaga

Posts: 554; Member since: Feb 23, 2012

Even if MS acquires nokia,still Wp will fail .Wp team is the laziest team.

4. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

MS has a big problem in my mind: It's still MS. Apple may not be cool anymore among the tech geek elite, but it's still "cool" in the consumer market. Microsoft on the other hand was always something you used because there was no other viable option. Once that appeared in the form of Android, it was curtains for WM, and WP8 has a crap ton of catching up to do.

21. Shatter

Posts: 2036; Member since: May 29, 2013

It won't be long, Microsoft's days with a monopoly on windows are numbered and they know it. Soon it will be all about open source OS using Linux on desktops, Ubuntu is better than windows all it is missing is the amount of developer support windows has.

38. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

With Apple looking to unify its Mac and iOS devices - possibly with unified apps - could Android do the same thing and push into desktops and laptops?

47. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

only thing Linux is miising is everything good about window and i mean EVERYTHING from windows. i know i am a developer in linux kernel but i prefer windows to start kernel projects. to hell with its openess its totally crap for simple users and especially any GPU related activities.OPEN is not always best.

54. Tommy1960i

Posts: 144; Member since: Oct 11, 2013

WP fails because of the small number of apps in the windows marketplace mobile. In many countries wndows is and will be for a while the most popult computer OS because the Apple's Macs are too expensive and I don't imagine a PC with android OS. Lets keep android out of that. I don't want to have Android powered computers, clothes, watches, cars, houses etc. :)

59. amasog

Posts: 552; Member since: Aug 22, 2013

"... Linux on desktops," Dreaming is free!! LOL!

66. Snoobab

Posts: 175; Member since: Dec 07, 2011

Well said. I think this is Microsoft's biggest problem.

15. timukh

Posts: 295; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

I know they take a lot of time to release improvements but one of the main reasons for that is they make improvements for everybody. Even a $120 phone (520) is receiving continuous updates like GDR2, GDR3, wp 8.1 and more! Can u imagine that in any other OS? So it takes a lot of time to build the software because it has to run even on 512mb ram and receive further updates which is kind of impossible for android. I am not a wp fan or android hater (i own an xperia) but this is the main reason of their delays and most of the people dont really take this into account.

16. rms.max

Posts: 95; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

THEY should have gone to android in 2011.The immature , less capable (no 1080p & sd800 deviece till today) Wp OS & evil BAllmar killed nokia. M$ bought it around a third of Nokia’s value in 2010. A great game played by M$.Nokia could surely defeat sammy back in 2011.great mistake by nokia's foolish board members to trust MS & put all money on wp .

19. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

I don't buy the argument that Nokia only needed Android to win. Samsung already had a ton of momentum from the Galaxy S, and that started mid-2010. By then, Nokia was already heading south, and in the US none of our carriers even sold Nokia smartphones. They would have had to abandon MeeGo and adopt Android much, much earlier (2009) to get ahead of the game.

27. rms.max

Posts: 95; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

Look at the profit margin of sammy and nokia back in 2010 in phone bussiness. nokia was ahead.they had more money. well, Even if nokia adopted android in mid-2010 they don't go broke like today .They had enough money to at least survive , if they adopted android.Don't you think US carriers would sold more nokia's android smartphone back in 2011?When they abandon MeeGo and adopted wp,nokia begun to make loss,From Profit to loss.

29. roldefol

Posts: 4744; Member since: Jan 28, 2011

The profit-to-loss trend was already underway. They didn't decline because of WP, they declined because they took too long to take ANY action in the face of Apple-Android competition. MeeGo could have saved the company if it had been introduced in say 2007-2008, before the rise of Android.

37. threed61

Posts: 259; Member since: May 27, 2011

Good point. And they couldn't take action because of a massive and Balkanized structure that fought over every little decision. Even the phones that were released were behind the times because of the beaurocracy. After years of development Maemo/Meego had only a few apps. It was the corporate structure itself that needed change. Elop certainly did that.

48. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

i agree Time of N8 was the right time for Actual N9 and Meegoo release

65. rms.max

Posts: 95; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

roldefol, All I wanted to say is that,wp was the last nail to the coffin .Wp destroyed nokia's last chance of survival .I agree with you,they made 100s of mistakes. +1020 to you.

25. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

All they care bout is NOKIA making money selling their handsets instead of m$ focusing on rebuilding their WINDOWS OS.

32. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

True if Nokia put more pressure on Maemo in 2006 there will be no iPhone and and no galaxy.

2. mottykels

Posts: 387; Member since: May 15, 2013

My faith is still for M.S :) what ever happen

5. Kishin

Posts: 706; Member since: May 30, 2013

M.S still very cool looking

6. brar.arsh

Posts: 202; Member since: Sep 12, 2012

Really? Do they pay you?

49. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

i guess they do pay for employees dont know about google cuz they givening everything for free NOT

11. fouadqr

Posts: 326; Member since: Nov 21, 2012

My faith is still for NOKIA :) what ever happen

23. Shatter

Posts: 2036; Member since: May 29, 2013

Some of the people who made Nokia good left and formed newkia to make Nokia like devices that run android.

33. StreetNerd

Posts: 870; Member since: Dec 08, 2010

My faith is still for NOKIA :) what ever happen

3. Kishin

Posts: 706; Member since: May 30, 2013

Nothin to say cause it would not change anything

7. veer.d

Posts: 89; Member since: Jul 12, 2013

biggest mistake of nokia to not release the prototype of around 2004 which are miles ahead of iphone. Nokia waste a lot of time on market analysis like they did with tablet and on the other hand samsung takes the risks and just go ahead like the NOTE THE PHABLET so they are successful

22. Stoli89

Posts: 333; Member since: Jun 28, 2010

Nokia's made a few big mistakes. Allowing the N97 out the door with extremely poor specs at a time when the iPhone was gaining traction. This was a terrible error in terms of image/branding. In addition, to allow Symbian and Maemo/Meego teams to compete for resources...management should've laid down the law early and with clarity. Nokia also erred in not promoting touch based UI's very early in Symbian's development (2004 ish). Nokia should've also avoided the tie-up with Intel (Meego) and pursued Maemo with vigor. Given the series of prior errors, Nokia should've pursued Android in the USA while it continued to build out its Meego ecosystem...making sure to tie Qt to both OS's. This would've helped build brand equity in the USA, while accelerating Meego's own developer base. Lastly, the burning platform memo should never have been published...killing off its cash cow in the middle of a turnaround was suicidal. Elop should've been fired for that move. IMHO.

46. ˇಠ_ಠˇ

Posts: 40; Member since: Aug 29, 2012

Cough... Dell Streak... cough. #SamsungcopiedDell

51. AliNSiddiqui

Posts: 382; Member since: Sep 19, 2012

The whole S Pen thing is why Note succeeded

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