European Commission has started an investigation on Samsung's use of FRAND licenses in its lawsuits

European Commission has started an investigation on Samsung's use of FRAND licenses in its lawsuits
Apple filed countersuits to the countersuit that Samsung has against it, claiming that the Koreans are violating the FRAND practices for fair and reasonable licensing of the 3G standard patents it holds - these are the pillars on which Samsung is trying to ban the sales and marketing of the iPhone 4S in Europe. Cupertino's lawyers called the fees Samsung has been demanding for using its patents "excessive".

The European Commission has started an investigation into Samsung's FRAND licensing procedures now, although it says these are standard antitrust checkups, not taking a side in the ongoing feud between the companies:

Samsung is not leaving its horse and carriage in the middle of the river, too, and came up with this statement about the EC investigation:

The fair and reasonable licensing is a bit of a murky legal territory, but the EU has plenty of strict rules about it, so that is another front to watch in the epic litigation battle between Android and Apple. Yep, that's what it is.

source: FOSSPatents



1. som

Posts: 768; Member since: Nov 10, 2009

Samsung counter attack on Apple is going to hurt it business and relationship with Apple.

2. android_hitman unregistered

this is just incredible! imagine what apple would have done if they had these patents... they would charge everyone for money!!! and now that samsung has the upper card, apple asks for FRAND? this is LAME! apple really sucks

5. sinple

Posts: 132; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

if apple had these patents, everybody can only create 2g phone as all 3g and above phones would be banned

3. goflet

Posts: 50; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

clash of titans i say.

4. jamrockjones

Posts: 345; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Apple is retarded! They're suing every manufacturer who makes their hardware! Apple doesn't even make their own parts. What happens when they sue everyone and no one wants to work with them anymore, then what do they do! They're stupid.

9. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

clearly you are not a business man... money talks... and Apple has plenty of it...

10. superguy

Posts: 448; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

Which is why Apple refuses to negotiate. If anyone should be investigated for fair and reasonable licensing rates, it's Apple. Jobs himself said it wasn't about money and he didn't want it.

6. ivanko34

Posts: 617; Member since: Sep 04, 2011

Apple can spend all his money just to kill android and they will continue until the death of android or the death of apple

7. cncrim

Posts: 1586; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Well, apple is greed if she just sue for compensation then nothing could happen instead she went way over boudery and banned the competitor and they didnt long term consequence that Apple was not the first phone phone maker.

8. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

This article is totally biased. Here's the title of the linked article. These are not standard check ups. It's an anti trust investigation. There's nothing standard. Samsung is about to get smacked down for its anti competitive practices. Daniel P you have totally misrepresented this article. "European Commission investigating Samsung over possible abuse of FRAND patents against Apple" More "Samsung wasn't too likely to win any injunctions based on those 3G patents anyway. But the mere fact that there's this antitrust investigation going on will make any injunctions based on Samsung's 3G patents even less likely, in the EU and elsewhere."

11. superguy

Posts: 448; Member since: Jul 15, 2011

Apple should be investigated for the same thing considering its business practices. But of course, your bias ignores that too.

12. ibap

Posts: 867; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

And of course FRAND doesn't apply to Apple, does it?

14. Firedrops

Posts: 254; Member since: Sep 06, 2011

Nope, it doesn't. Apple can patent all rectangular objects with a screen on it, all software which arranges thumbnails in grid fashion, and all horizontal movements which will lead to further access being granted, and it's all cool with the EU

13. Penny

Posts: 1847; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Hmm, so Apple asks others for fair licensing fees, and Apple itself fees, just bans. It may not be illegal, but it is certainly hypocritical. Gotta give them points for shamelessness.

15. stealthd unregistered

It's actually not even remotely hypocritical. Samsung agreed for their 3G technology patents to become standards and to follow FRAND rules. Apple patented hardware and software features which are not standards and do not keep anyone from making smartphones and tablets, and has no obligation to license them to anyone.

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