Rumor: Fear of overheating leads Samsung to dump Snapdragon 810 for next flagship
posted by Alan F. / Jan 14, 2015, 11:38 PM
Some familiar with Sammy's intentions, say that at first, 80% to 90% of Samsung Galaxy S6 models will be powered by the Exynos chip while the remaining 10% will use the Snapdragon 810. Then, as Qualcomm fixes the overheating issue, Samsung will raise the percentage of Galaxy S6 units powered by the Snapdragon 810.
The Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 is mass produced by TSMC using its 20nm process. The latter is now expected to start using its 16nm FinFET process in July. With the 14nm Exynos chips expected to be used inside the Samsung Galaxy S6, it suggests that Samsung will start using the 14nm FinFET technology this quarter.
We expect to see the Samsung Galaxy S6 unveiled at MWC in March. The latest rumors say that there will be a version with a unibody metal design and another model with a curved screen. At the same time, a round smartwatch from Samsung is also expected to see the light of day at MWC.
Samsung Galaxy S6 OS: Android 7.0 Nougat, 6.0 Marshmallow, 5.1 Lollipop, 5.0 Lollipop View Full specs
- Display 5.1" 1440 x 2560 pixels
- Camera 16 MP / 5 MP front
- Processor Samsung Exynos 7 Octa, Octa-core, 2100 MHz
- Storage 128 GB
- Battery 2550 mAh(23h 3G talk time)
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Good decision sammy !!
posted on Jan 14, 2015, 11:44 PM 11
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Very good decision it should have always been this way.
posted on Jan 14, 2015, 11:54 PM 5
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A few reasons, they already get too many orders from Apple and other manufacturers that they can't justify putting the resources into them when they can buy bulk and save themselves the trouble by going with Qualcomm. Two, you follow the developers. If more games , apps, and websites are optimized for Qualcomm chips, then you use Qualcomm chips. Unless of course they have major overheating issues. Then you spend the resources and hope the developers optimize for Exynos this year instead of for the 810.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 1:53 AM 1
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There is a perfectly good reason. The qualcomm is having the best radio integration among any chip... even so praised apple and exynos could not match it's efficiency and performance.. This is more noticeable when using LTE frequency
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 2:29 AM 4
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Because so much of their fab capacity is taken up by Apple and others. They can't make enough to supply others and the millions of phones they sell. And selling to the other buyers is more profitable.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 2:39 AM 0
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Agree. 805 chip is already great. Not all people are techie and many still use their phones without noticing the difference from older models. But Sammy, your touchwiz still sucks, even my 65 year old mother can see the difference when she's using an iPhone 5s so please fix it.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 12:01 AM 0
very good for use the 14nm chip will be less power consuming and faster i just hope it still has all the 810 features wifi to tower switch no drop. ect
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 1:57 AM 1
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Original source: http://blogs.barrons.com/asias
"Based on our research and press reports, QCOM’s new 64-bit Snapdragon 615 and 810 chips are suffering from overheating issues. These issues surfaced in December, especially for the 810, but appear to be persisting. The issues for the Snapdragon 810 (20nm-based) and 615 (28nm-based) appear to be slightly different, according to our research. For the Snapdragon 810, a flagship chip for use in high-end models, we believe the issues are related to the implementation of new 64-bit ARM cores (A57), which is causing overheating when accelerating above 1.2-1.4 GHz frequencies, which is a major limitation for a flagship phone."
"We believe fixing the issues with the 810 will require the redesign of a few metal layers of the chip, which could push out the schedule by about three months, by our calculations (one month for prototyping and design fix and two additional months for completing the metal mask layers in final production). This would mean that high-volume availability of this chip would be likely only from mid-2Q15, at the earliest."
"We believe SEC is highly likely to adopt its in-house AP (Exynos) and modem for >90% of its Galaxy S6 model (launching in February), a big departure from previous years, when it used Snapdragon for >70% of the volume (see our recent report on the Samsung supply chain). This would be negative for TSMC in 2Q15 and would hurt 20nm utilization somewhat in 2Q15, in our view."
posted on Jan 14, 2015, 11:46 PM 1
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Forget overheating samsung!! give the gullible fandroids what they want - an SD810 chip powered phone for bragging and gimmick! then couple that with UHD screen and 16GB RAM. sure the fandroids will rejoice. - Laggy LG G3 User
posted on Jan 14, 2015, 11:51 PM 3
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...Just admit it, you can't afford any phone can you.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 2:23 AM 6
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Fantastic, the newer Exynos chips are great. The 5433/7420 (same chip, Sammy changed the name) has the same cores as the S810 anyway, and has a dedicated audio chip and some other goodies. In benchmarks it smashes 805, so the Note 4 basically has a 810 and an 805 version. A higher clocked, 14nm version of the 5433/7420 would smash the 810 in terms of audio, performance and battery life.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 12:01 AM 1
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Sorry to say mate but the 5433 is now called 7410, the 7420 is a new cpu not used before on a phone, I have also said for months that Samsung will use the new 7420 on all phones on launch on the gs6 phones due to 810 problmes
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 10:55 AM 1
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Hopefully to accompany that energy efficient chip, they also use an even more energy efficient AMOLED panel, this way we have killer battery life all around.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 12:16 AM 5
4K Ultra HD, OLED, Nano Crystals display on phone higher nits and contrast major power saver ahhhhhhh i dream
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 2:10 AM 0
Yeah, Sammy! Just keep using Snapdragon S4 Play because you are not worthy of Snapdragon 810 :) Wait, wanna hear another reason why Samsung shouldn't use Snapdragon 810? Because It is reserved for SONY XPERIA Z4!!!!!
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 12:41 AM 0
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If that is truly the case, how interesting, then, that LG's G Flex 2 is getting the 810 first. I suppose they must have beaten out Sony on this so-called reservation. Also, your comments grow increasingly irritating. You may want to do something about them, lest you be branded a fanboy.
posted on Jan 15, 2015, 2:04 AM 1
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