DOJ suggests Supreme Court remand Apple v. Samsung back to District Court

DOJ suggests Supreme Court remand Apple v. Samsung back to District Court
Back in May 2015, the U.S. Court of Appeals reduced the amount Samsung owed Apple for infringing on its patents to $548 million. The original jury award called for Samsung to pay Apple $1.08 billion. This was reduced to $930 million by Judge Lucy Koh before the appeals court reversed the jury's ruling against Samsung for infringing on Apple's trademarks. What was left was a $548 million judgment against Samsung for infringing on iPhone patents, including those related to the design of the device.

Samsung then requested that the Supreme Court look into the part of the decision related to design patents. Samsung's argument was that the amount of the award related to design patents was based on the entire sales generated by a product, even if the patent covered only one component on the device. While the Supreme Court has agreed to look into this issue, the DOJ said in its brief that it isn't clear whether Samsung has provided enough evidence to back up its argument. As a result, it recommends that the Supreme Court remand the case back to District Court to see if a new trial is called for.

Late last year, Samsung paid Apple the $548 million awarded by the appeals court with the promise that Apple would reimburse Samsung if the court changed the amount. And the beat goes on.

source: Reuters



1. chaosnightmare

Posts: 182; Member since: May 20, 2010

I'm guessing they are talking about internal design, because Galaxy s7 and s7 edge (or every other samsung recent phone I have seen) are nothing like that flat, and boring iPhone design with huge bezels

2. Mxyzptlk unregistered

No, the iphone is ergonomically designed without the gimmick edge screen or the cheap glass.

3. aikoo

Posts: 129; Member since: Feb 27, 2016

"cheap glass" LMFAOOO. Bud, the iPhone is a rectangle with rounded corners and antenna bands.

4. chaosnightmare

Posts: 182; Member since: May 20, 2010

It wasn't "cheap glass design" when apple used it in the iphone 4, and there's no way huge bezels can be considered an ergonomic feature. Both phones are probably better on a case anyway but one of them handles the space better with higher screen to body size ratio and better battery life while the other sacrifices everything (including headphone jack) to be stupidly thin, even then the camera still protrudes in a notorious way.

5. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

"gimmick edge screen" wow, for the 9001th time, it is for aesthetic purpose only, why can't you get that on your brain? If you even have one that is.

21. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Get over it. You and the 9 guys who +1 you are salty because I voiced my opinion.

23. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Not much saltier than you are.

6. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Ergonomically designed? With bezels do large they make the phone as big as other phones with larger screens? Try again.

7. kiko007

Posts: 7493; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

The bezels may be large, but the iPhone is still ergonomically superior. They both are slippery as all hell though tbh.

22. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Tedkord is challenged by logic.

9. Mxyzptlk unregistered

I see I've caused a few tears to shed.

10. iushnt

Posts: 3105; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

You must be so proud of yourself!!

12. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I'd assume most people laugh so hard at you they cry.

20. Mxyzptlk unregistered

You're a clown, tedkord.

11. AlikMalix unregistered

mxy, why do you do this? provoke fanboys..? edge screen does make the s6 and s7 look absolutely awesome - and that was it's intent. The features for the edge screen are a bit gimmicky - but that's just an afterthought on samsungs behalf as an attempt to add value on top of the edged screen for the extra $100 that you paid. Edge screen does make the device look much more modern than the rest of the "flat" screen devices... it made the new iphone to look outdated. Gimmick or not, we all like nicely designed devices - saying that the edge is a gimmick is the same as saying space grey or silver color is a gimmick - it's just a design choice, and as far as devices go - a really nice one....

19. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Only because they like to pick fights. I just give them the same treatment. I don't care for the Edge that much but I do wish Samsung would get rid of the slight curve of the screen. I'm waiting to see what the Note 6 brings to the table.

15. darkkjedii

Posts: 31039; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Really Mxy?

17. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Well I do like the rugged Active series but they're AT&T exclusive and the Note 4 is still my favorite Galaxy phone. I love the look of it with the angular sides and sharp corners.

24. darkkjedii

Posts: 31039; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

You really don't like the edge look? I think the S6 Edge plus is the best looking phone ever. The S7 Edge toned the angular curves I like so much down a bit, but it's still a beaut.

26. shm224

Posts: 288; Member since: Mar 19, 2015

@Mxyzptlk : if the iPhone's design is purely designed out of functional necessity, it's not design patentable/copy rightable.

27. shm224

Posts: 288; Member since: Mar 19, 2015

@choasnightmare : no, it's that infamous rounded-corner icons that Apple hometown jury awarded Apple almost $500M.

8. Barney_stinson

Posts: 672; Member since: May 30, 2016

In similar scenerio. XIAOMI can sue samsung too!! Remember the mi note !!! This all patent thing is getting stupid

13. techguyone

Posts: 214; Member since: May 18, 2013

Mxytroll is slipping - I'd have at least expected a Motorola snipe in there - disappointed LOL.

18. Mxyzptlk unregistered

This isn't a Motorola article, genius.

14. BobLawblaw unregistered

You lads on this site are pathetic. All you do is bitch and moan about android v apple. Get a grip of yourselves.

16. willard12 unregistered

In an article about an android oem vs. Apple in court people actually have the nerve to comment about Android vs. Apple....crazy/. They are comments on an internet website. That's it. Anyone who takes it more seriously than that probably is the one who needs to get a grip.

25. darkkjedii

Posts: 31039; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

I for one find these edge models to be outstandingly beautiful, and give credit to Samsung for pushing the envelope. On the iphone ergonomic front, the smooth rounded sides, and the lone button at the bottom make for a great feel, and handling. The iphone does look good, but boring and dated compared to the Edge's design.

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