Canada's Competition Bureau wants Canadian carriers to turn over papers relating to iPhone sales

Canada's Competition Bureau wants Canadian carriers to turn over papers relating to iPhone sales
Are Canadian consumers paying more for the Apple iPhone than they should be? The country's Competition Bureau wants Canadian carriers to turn over documents related to their sales of the iOS powered handset, claiming that Apple is using its position in the industry to force carriers to push the iPhone over the competition's wares. The investigation started in March 2014 when the Bureau became aware of anti-competitive clauses that Apple Canada had included in its agreement with Canadian carriers.

The Competition Bureau is not happy with the 46,000 documents that Apple turned over to it in March and is now widening the request for documents to include papers from Bell Mobility, Rogers, Telus, MTS Inc., Bragg Communications Inc., Saskatchewan Telecommunications, Tbaytel and Videotron Ltd. The agency needs approval from the Federal Court to demand that the carriers turn over the requested documents. What the government is looking for is proof that Apple has a role in setting prices for the iPhone and handsets produced by the competition.

A spokeswoman for the Competition Bureau, Gabrielle Tassé, confirmed that motions were filed Monday by the agency and that it had not yet received a ruling from the Federal Court. The contracts being requested are those dated as far back as January 1st 2008. If the Federal Court approves the request, the carriers will have to turn over information related to the prices they pay Apple for iPhones, how they set prices for the iPhone, and how wireless plans are set for all smartphone users.


If the Federal Court rules in favor of the Canadian agency, the carriers will have 75 days to turn over the requested documents to the Competition Bureau.

source: FinancialPost via MobileSyrup

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42 Comments

1. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

Well this wouldn't really be any surprise, we have known this for years.

6. waddup121 unregistered

okay if u say so

25. sgodsell

Posts: 7219; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Apple charges $839 Canadian dollars ($649 US) for a 16 gb, 1 gb of ram, dual core 1.3 GHz 64 bit processor, 1336x750 resolution display, 8 MP non OIS camera for the iPhone 6. With hardware specs like this, the Android and WP users would be putting a phone with these specs in the low range to midrage category's with the prices that would reflect it. No wonder why Apple is making so much money. Yet you come here and say, if you say so. Please don't prove to the world that you are blind by showing your ignorance. It still blows me away that people will pay what Apple charges.

34. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Nope its the truth. I worked at Bell , Rogers and now Telus and in each store we where forced to have at least 33% of the display and marketing stuff for Apple if not we where not autorised to sell Apple product. So basically now its even worst where i work half the store is only for Apple ( we are talking about 4 phone model an 2 tablet vs more than 30 others phone and brand.. )

2. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Finally, someone needs to smack those monopolist A-holes running the Canadian wireless market into the ground. Also, yea....look into Apple while you're at it....can't hurt I guess.

3. jojon

Posts: 433; Member since: Feb 11, 2014

furthermore, it could not happen to a more deserving bunch than Apple..go hard Canada

4. BobbyBuster

Posts: 854; Member since: Jan 13, 2015

The Canadians blame Apple for what Sammy has been doing the whole time? That's ridiculous.

8. dimas

Posts: 3347; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Don't worry mister cotton mouth, Canada will also go after other companies if they find their pricing suspicious.

15. meanestgenius

Posts: 21784; Member since: May 28, 2014

NO. They're blaming APPLE for what APPLE has been doing the whole time. Get off this "hate for Samsung" kick, already.

20. -ARTE-

Posts: 80; Member since: Jun 14, 2015

Its more like jealousy, that his beloved company provides nothing new, but selling outdated products with high margin. Its killing him, because Android and Google are in there advanced stage, while Apple is still in 2011.

27. sgodsell

Posts: 7219; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

What I am jealous of Apple is charging $839 Canadian dollars for a 16 GB, iPhone 6. That if any Android or WP user looked at its specs, would automatically put this device into the low to mid range category, with a price to match. Yet Apple is charging a flagship price for their device. Now if Apple would throw in a free hand job with each purchase, then it would make the prices a little easier to take. Instead it feels like Apple is giving me a free prostate exam with each purchase.

35. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Never in the past 10 years i work in the industry i saw a samsung representative tell us to have at least 33% of all publicity and phone stand in the store for them. But i saw thats from Apple in all 3 place i worked ( Bell , Rogers , Telus ) But hey its okay to be blind.

5. AlikMalix unregistered

Finally, I felt that I was peer-pressured by AT&T into buying my first iPhone: they showed me this phone with no physical keyboard just a screen and tried to tell me it was the "future". Can you believe this BS, a touch screen is the future? I liked my physical Dialpad. Stupid Apple. I was so upset that I paid $200 for a phone that had no buttons and was different from any other phone that I felt like an outsider - why the hell did Apple even make this thing. Proves that when you enter certain market - it will always be a failure. Look at android phones now - now that's a proper phone. Apple was dumb to push a touchscreen onto public - I'm glad Google and Samsung showed everyone how to build a real smartphone way before Apple idiocy. But true. Every time I walk into AT&T they have Apple phones there among other brands. Absolutely leaving me no choice than to buy another iPhone again. The Canadian government is doing us all a great favor by investigating why so many people buying iPhones. There are other choices - why is everyone buying iPhones? Get a life people.

9. Tizo101

Posts: 526; Member since: Jun 05, 2015

Firstly, you essay is inspiring. Secondly, perhaps you should read the article again so you can understand what the problem is.

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 21784; Member since: May 28, 2014

Thirdly, Alik is WELL AWARE of what the article is about. He's a KNOWN IPHONE USER on this site and he's being SARCASTIC. I thought it was pretty obvious.

21. -ARTE-

Posts: 80; Member since: Jun 14, 2015

No wonder . Alixmalik an Apple fanboy talking and saying this is unbelievable. Surely he's getting thumbs and and users agreeing to his wise posts. Unlike what he normally posts are fanboyisim.

10. Nicko97

Posts: 49; Member since: May 25, 2015

Butthurt fagdroid much Like it or not Apple showed the industry the way smartphones should be built

12. meanestgenius

Posts: 21784; Member since: May 28, 2014

First of all, the name calling is unnecessary. Second, Alik is a KNOWN iPHONE USER on this site. He's being SARCASTIC.

24. -ARTE-

Posts: 80; Member since: Jun 14, 2015

Lmfao, look whose talking. Apple being the first. Built with halfbaked and outdated tech. Yea really.

37. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

dont give the permission to use unfair tactics!

11. Macready

Posts: 1817; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Someone clearly doesn't understand the anti competitive issue at hand.

14. meanestgenius

Posts: 21784; Member since: May 28, 2014

See comments # 12 and 13.

28. willard12 unregistered

Poor AlikMalix. In his lame attempt at sarcasm, he was too clueless to realize this article is mostly about agreements made between Apple and carriers in their pricing of OTHER devices, not simply carriers pushing Apple devices. We'll just have to wait for him. Eventually, he will catch up. This article has nothing to do with LG producing the first capacitive touchscreen screen phone. I even have a picture of it for him. When he realizes this article is about Apple ensuring that carriers don't lower the cost of the competition in order to pay for Apple's subsidies, he's going to think, "man, I was really dumb. " Until then, we just have to laugh.

32. AlikMalix unregistered

Wow Willard, thanks so much for pointing this out, I really had no idea what this topic was about. You're right, man, I was really dumb. Maybe that's why I ever bought an iPhone because I'm dumb like the other iPhone buyers. Half of US is dumb, half of China is dumb, half of Japan is dumb. And the rest of the world that buys an iPhone is dumb. We all should have bought an LG Prada and stayed with that brand in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and so on. Prada had a bigger screen, had its own App Store, was not laggy at all, and their operating system was top notch. That's why they have the best ecosystem today that they built from no example at all to aupport their devices. Lg Prada was a marvel of a phone, it took years for Apple to finally reverse engineer it and build their own piece of useless trash that had nothing and that's why they had to rely on freeware that's designed to gather information to monetize it. How could I be so dumb. Let's just hope the Canadian government finally shuts down Apple throughout the world for good. Thanks bro, it's good to have a friend around here.

38. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Alik we dont care about all those big history you make. The point here is Apple as usual paying ppl in the backend to stop competition in the front end. Thats its and thats all. IF you cant talk about thats and continue giving your crappy story then you prove thats you are an idiot sorry.

33. cnpthe3rd

Posts: 103; Member since: Feb 01, 2009

the problem with AlikMalix's post is not the scarcasim, I love that the problem is like every other apple fan AlikMalix has fallen victom to apples increadible markiting. they have convinced people they invinted things that have been around for years or that you dont need/want features that apple dosent offer. the FIRST phone with out a keyboard what AlikMalix is giving credit to apple's 2007 original iphone was actually just a few years earlier in 1992 by IBM.The IBM Simon is also referred as the first smartphone. the first iphone like every other iphone was not innovative, it was and still is an attractive looking well made piece of outdated technology with specs comprable to entry/mid level phones at the time of its release that sells like f***ing crazy because of its fan base alone

39. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

No you need to give credit for Apple for making it popular. I dont like Apple but they made touchscreen smartphone popular thats i give it to them. Still do this give them the permission to pay carrier in the backend so they play with others phone model price to give Apple unfair advantage? thats the real questions. Lets leave all the fanboyism alone plz.

36. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Alik dont be an Ass did you see Canadian cellphone store? Half the freaking store is Apple publicity board damn it and they ask to have a freaking phone stand thats take half the store. So unless you know what you freaking talking about dont freaking reply lol. Apple may have bring great innovation in the past and thats i agree with you but its dont give them free reign to use unfair tactics! You get a life Apple lover.

7. dimas

Posts: 3347; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Good Canadian government. Always looking after their people's welfare.

23. -ARTE-

Posts: 80; Member since: Jun 14, 2015

They should kick and banned Apple from Canada.

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