Apple vs Samsung vs LG vs Huawei mobile profits are not even close

Apple vs Samsung vs LG vs Huawei mobile profits are not even close
It ain't over until the fat lady sings, and she sang over Apple's record quarterly profit to the tune of a $20 billion fanfare. While that's not as much as analysts expected, and a bit too close to the $18.4 billion it booked on the wings of the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus upgrades, it is still a record profit in the company's history... any modern company's history. 

That chunk of change boosted Apple's cash hoard to $285 billion, and, now that its overseas holdings can be repatriated with a low tax rate, Apple's only trouble will be how to spend this on future products and services. The reason for Apple's breathtaking quarter? Why, the iPhone X, of course. While iPhone unit sales overall were a bit less than the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus sales in their first quarter, the X took a large share in the nix, boosting the ASP to nearly $800 per iPhone - another record, as you can see in the chart below.

To put things in perspective, we are listing how much did the most profitable phone-crafting juggernauts made in the all-important holiday quarter from their mobile business. More than 90% of Apple's profits, and about 86% of its revenue came from the mobile division's products and services, so we left Macs and other gadgets in the total, as they barely make a significant contribution to the bottom line. Huawei hasn't broken down its mobile division profits yet, so we went with its Q3 average profit per phone estimates of $15, multiplied by 41 million, or the number of handsets it sold in Q4. The same goes for Oppo, and its 32 million units sold at $14 of average profits apiece, or Vivo, with 24.5 million phones sold at $13 profit a pop.

Granted, this is traditionally a boon quarter for Apple, as it released all of its three new handsets in the fall, but still the vast difference between its Q4 income, and what the second most profitable company in the business derived from phones, is pretty demoralizing.



1. iushnt

Posts: 3157; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Those r some serious numbers Apple.

12. Papa_Ji

Posts: 880; Member since: Jun 27, 2016

This shows how overpriced are iPhones.... Kudos to Xiaomi for selling smartphones at just 2$ per phone profit.

24. VasiliS7

Posts: 203; Member since: Jan 10, 2017

It's pathetic for a company and even warst for R&D.

52. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Samsung made about 75% of their profits from their memory chip business and CPU business and display business. That means component business. This site is not responsible for those kind of reporting because PA is mainly dedicated towards mobile consumer electronics mainly smartphones and stuff. And also just take a look at the ASP of android, you can have an idea about this regarding Samsung alone by looking at the above graph and mobile division revenues. Apple made 90% of their 20 billion profits from the 77.3 million iPhones, Sammy made 2.24 billion profits from 74.4 million smartphones. Do the math yourself but it is quite obvious what's happening at the Samsung camp in contrast to the Apple camp.

53. mootu

Posts: 1541; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

This article is the biggest load of bull i've ever read. The $20 billion profit is nowhere near all from phone sales. You have included services which accounted for $8.5 billion. You have included other devices which even includes Beats which made $5.5 billion. So phone sales actually account for $6 billion.

67. nithence86

Posts: 2; Member since: Feb 05, 2018

I think you probably dont understand between the Profit and the Revenue for sure.

57. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Samsing sells multiple phones at various prices. Obviously if you sell more lower costing products at a high rate, it eill bring down the ASP for higher priced items. Apple.sells one phone, with 100% of IOS. They don't have 300,000, they don't distribute 100+ products in 300 countries and they don't have factories. Any one who outsources 90% of their business obviously will make more money. But you're celebrating Apple raising prices knowing their sales are dropping and they are making up the loses by doing such. Charging $1000 for a phone that cost $357 to make and tbey get 70% of all money from apps. All accessories require paying licensing fees too and tbey charge for the SDK and all their money is overseas where it can't be taxed. Kinda makes you wonder why they have to lie and cheat customers to get them to keep buying by purposely making their products only last a year, admit to it and you fools still buy. But Samsung has an accident with a product and you all wished them dead. Samsung an Apple are 2 different company's. Samsung yes make a the most of its money from parts. So what? So will you be happy when this year Apple iPhone sales drop to 212M and their phones cost $1200 out the box? Samsung is doing business as usual. They don't rely on Samsung Mobile for profits. Apple will sell their products and if you want them you gotta pay. Good for them. Samsung chose to sell to everyone at various costs. Samsung isn't out to rob people and they aren't looking for their name in the paper. Samsung is something Apple will never be. Samsung is 25% GDP of its country. They offer a wide range of products that top far more markets that Apple one trick pony. Since you love being ripped off, why not take all money and throw it in the streets. But here is why you zealots forget. Market share offers more power than just raw profits See the you have a diverse portfolio, when the market changes, and one product takes a dive, you have other products to keep you going while you make the needed changes. This is why companies who base their business only on Apple, the when Apple stop them. If Apples loses the iPhone which right now is 70% of their income, they won't have nothing to the them.over while they fix things. This is why in addition to spying the Feds don't want Chinese vendors offering products here. Because America will lose its only and last top world selling product. Which means less money for Apple to pay for Republican elections.

35. c.m.s

Posts: 239; Member since: Dec 10, 2017

It shows how Apple clearly has the top spot in high-end segment.

58. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Just shows Apple sells a lot of midranger phones from a premium price. Having an exclusive platform works wonders.

39. prakash_shewani

Posts: 25; Member since: Feb 05, 2016

they also sell user data to make some extra money

44. Fred3

Posts: 587; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

They include everything Apple related that's why their numbers so high but if they added ALL of Samsung's it would have been a complete opposite.

2. cmdacos

Posts: 4333; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Apple deserves all kudos for the numbers they pull in. But 2.5B in profit should be demoralizing for Samsung? There are a lot of factors at play here but the only one that should be demoralized is LG who can't make a dime.

3. sme4192

Posts: 21; Member since: Nov 30, 2017

samsung have 14.1 billions dollar profit why you are wrote 2.24 billions profit?

8. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

That's because the rest 11.86 billion dollars came directly from companies like Apple for components, not by consumers.

26. iushnt

Posts: 3157; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

How can you say that? They have a lot more consumer products than Smartphones. And, companies like Apple buy from them because they are simply the best component maker.

54. Trex95

Posts: 2383; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

They manufacturing nandflash for iPhone and Actullay Apple for Samsung the vip customer.

68. rowlin

Posts: 50; Member since: Jun 14, 2012

Those are profits from mobile phones, who cares where they came from, they have a much more diversified profit base than Apple.

5. tywanjames

Posts: 65; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

That's a lot of money.

6. wando77

Posts: 1168; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

So he's posted Apples profits for iPhones, macbooks iPads etc but only posted Samsung profits from phones......hmmmm

11. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

That's because Samsung didn't do well with tablets and

42. Chaise unregistered

Samsung makes much more than phones, tablets and computers, whereas that's all of Apple's inventory.

48. ph00ny

Posts: 2069; Member since: May 26, 2011

and they're probably #1 in TV as well home appliances.

59. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

What he saying Which you missed because you're not so smart, is they listed pretty much all the products Apple sales tbatvarent phones, and do the the same foe Samsung Also the Mac is not selling well and tbey make zero profits on them. Which is why they only make a new Pro once in a while.

27. iushnt

Posts: 3157; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Anything to show Apple better?

32. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

And I think they also count profit from Apple's iTunes (including apple music, appstore, etc)

40. prakash_shewani

Posts: 25; Member since: Feb 05, 2016

because they can't Samsung also makes ships, hotels, helicopters, amusement parks they may even make a time machine in near future and PA can't show anyone else leading

45. Anonymous.

Posts: 423; Member since: Jun 15, 2016

Of course they can. They have to also factor in the profit of Samsung Electronics, not the entire conglomerate, but Samsung Electronics! But here in this article, they only showed that of Samsung Mobile, whereas they showed profits from all of Apple's divisions (iPhone, mac, iTunes app store etc). Bias!

60. makatijules

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Those things are not made by Samsung Electronics. Those are made by other Samsung companies. Samsung LTD yes is the parent company, but every company they have must make their own products and their own money as Samsung LTD does not get involved in day to day business. This is different than a company like Yumm Brands or Landrys which owns lots of retail restaurants and more. If one of their s.aller brands has problems, the parent company is involved in their data to day business. Samsung Electronics which owns SDI, Samsung Display, S!amsung Components is their own company and have nothing to do with Samsung Heavy Industries, medical, hotels, ships, or a thing else. Samsung Electronics did not building the tallest building in the world. They don't build tanks. They make a Tvs, chips, phones, batteries, computers and similar.

7. wando77

Posts: 1168; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

So he's posted Apples profits for iPhones, macbooks iPads etc but only posted Samsung profits from phones......hmmmm

16. Hollowmost

Posts: 425; Member since: Oct 10, 2017

Apple sell MacBoocs , iMacs , iPods , iPhones, app store, Apple music, tidal... Why you compare it to only mobile divisions lol ????

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