Apple says U.S. Founding Fathers would be upset with DOJ request to unlock Farook's iPhone

Apple says U.S. Founding Fathers would be upset with DOJ request to unlock Farook's iPhone
Apple and the government will be facing off next Tuesday in court. This will be the big hearing heard around the world as the DOJ asks the court to force Apple to develop the so-called Govt.OS operating system. The unique software is required to unlock the Apple iPhone 5c used by deceased terrorist Syed Farook. Apple's stance is that if it is forced to build such an OS, the code would no doubt end up in the wrong hands. All of the private data stored on iPhones around the world would be in danger of getting stolen by hackers. 

In its final brief filed with the court before next week's hearing, Apple pointed out that Congress had specifically declined to give the DOJ (through legislation), the power to compel Apple to help law enforcement in these situations. Apple says that the intent of Congress was clear when it considered legislation, and then declined to follow through.

In its filing, Apple says that the Founding Fathers of the U.S. (usually referring to the Super Seven of John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington) would be appalled to discover that the U.S. government believes that courts can force private parties to do anything the government wants them to do. 

Last week, the government threatened to force Apple to turn over the iOS source code, which would allow the government to break into any iPhone in use. Apple's responded by saying that the government cannot understand the technology involved in this case if it makes a statement like that with "catastrophic security implications."

The DOJ believes that the iPhone 5c in question could contain the name(s) of possible conspirators who helped Farook and his wife murder 14 people in a San Benardino office building on December 2nd. The pair were cut down by a hail of police bullets on a San Bernardino street hours later.

Even though the court will hear arguments from both sides next week, the final ruling could be many weeks away and will have ramifications for many of our loyal readers.

source: Reuters



1. engineer-1701d unregistered

are you kidding me washington was an english general that left rank and turned on the people he swore to protect and follow, in all words he was a radical. and am sure if any of them know anything about whats going on they would say o hell no protect this country we built and find out whats on that phone.they did it all the time in letters finding spys Lincoln would not have died if someone had opened a letter or told someone what was going to happen.

2. shnibz

Posts: 510; Member since: Sep 18, 2011

Not if it belonged to the red coats

3. justrt

Posts: 446; Member since: Jul 10, 2014

The Founding Fathers are turning in their graves seeing how the US is taken over by corporations! How hypocritical! Shame on you Apple!!!

26. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

You do know the revolution was started because of rich men 'corps' of the day for not liking taxes, or at least was a huge part of it. It wasn't the poor...

31. justrt

Posts: 446; Member since: Jul 10, 2014

Well, shame on them, then! They were the hypocrites :p

37. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Not really. Read their documents carefully, they were for many things and checks and balances. While many of their quotes were about freedom and tyranny etc, it is the collective thoughts that provided balance. John Adams was nearly a dictator, then you have Benjamin Franklin who was complete opposite, then you have the first president who was a rich boy with slaves etc etc.

4. BobLawblaw unregistered

If only the FBI hadn't reset the password. Then we wouldn't have to hear about this bulls**t every second day..

5. Unordinary unregistered

Look at all the morons in this thread trash talking a good deed lol. Oh well. At least I value my privacy. By the way.

6. Fissionline

Posts: 4; Member since: Apr 01, 2015

The founding fathers would look at my iPhone and promptly execute me for wizardry...

7. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I think the Founding Fathers would be more mad about our companies sending jobs to other countries while we have unemployed citizens.

8. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Apple doesn't really know the Founding Fathers then... But, then again, most people don't. And, because they're just kind of entertaining reads:

16. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Ugh, linked to page 3 instead of 1 on the first link.

17. Adreno

Posts: 755; Member since: Mar 12, 2016

Noticed that too.

10. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

The founding fathers would be ashamed of a lot more than this silly crappie.

12. darealist

Posts: 107; Member since: Feb 25, 2015

The founding fathers would've executed Tim Cook for his sexuality.

13. catze86

Posts: 731; Member since: Dec 07, 2015

No. That never ever will happened. Because they are Founding Fathers. Not Founding Fathers and Mothers.

14. yoosufmuneer

Posts: 1518; Member since: Feb 14, 2015

Founding fathers would have died again (instantly) when they see Apple ripping off their customers.

15. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Alan, you still trying to claim you're an objective reporter here, or at least that you don't have a personal bias?

18. Adreno

Posts: 755; Member since: Mar 12, 2016

I think Alan is actually the most objective and unbiased reporter here. I enjoy his informative posts. Florin is good guy too. Paul and Victor are subjective in their articles, IMO. Chris is the worst and the bad guy, I generaly dislike his post because of bias against everything non-Apple

36. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

I just like giving Alan a hard time. He's one of the writers that actually participates in the commentary. And, he's probably the most entertaining.


Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Apple listen......privacy is important but it looks like you support terrorism by not unlocking iphones of these morrons! And FBI dont be so stupid you can unlock it without Apple's help........everything can be broken!

22. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

yeah, they already broke it, by resetting the password -_-

28. ph00ny

Posts: 2031; Member since: May 26, 2011

I don't know. Owner of the iphone gave the OK. There is more than enough evidence for probable cause. It's like saying search warrants are bull s**t because it invades personal privacy

23. Dee79

Posts: 307; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

What would happen if any of the apple top people's family gets murdered from terrorists? Will they still keep there phone locked! Apple doesn't care about anyone but then self. Same old same old


Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

you are so right!

29. ph00ny

Posts: 2031; Member since: May 26, 2011

Same goes for american public. 911 happens and they're ok with any action. Now they're all up in arms about anything and everything

33. justrt

Posts: 446; Member since: Jul 10, 2014

You are scaring me. I'm not a big fan of Apple, but killing their top people's families? ;)

25. Chuck007

Posts: 1410; Member since: Mar 02, 2014

Of all the good America did to the world, there's plenty more the government did these 60 years that'll make the founding fathers rattle in their graves. If you think there's a single government that lives by what they preach (which is 99.9% PR BS) to the world you're in for a rude awakening.

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