Prosecutor says Farook's Apple iPhone 5c could contain name of mystery third assailant

Prosecutor says Farook's Apple iPhone 5c could contain name of mystery third assailant
On December 2nd, when Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, murdered 14 office workers in a San Bernardino office building, initial reports from eye witnesses seemed to indicate that there were three shooters involved. When police cut down the two terrorists in a hail of bullets hours later, there was a methodical search for a third person in the vicinity, but one was never found.

Yesterday, San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said that his agency hasn't been able to completely eliminate the possibility of a third shooter. The county's DA has filed papers with the court saying that the now infamous Apple iPhone 5c used by Farook, could contain the name of a third shooter. In a brief filed on Thursday in federal court, San Bernardino County District Attorney Michael Ramos mentioned a pair of 911 calls during which the callers reported that three people were involved in the attack.

While that sounds credible, the DA went so far as to claim that Farook's iPhone may be at the heart of a "lying-dormant cyber pathogen" that lies in wait, the clock ticking toward the ultimate destruction of San Bernardino's computer network. While that sounds far-fetched, it is up to the DA to try to convince the judge to force Apple to open the phone. Even the police chief admits that he hasn't heard anything about a booby-trap placed on the phone.

The government is trying to get Apple to write the special version of iOS that would be required for Apple to unlock the phone, which was given to Farook for his job with the San Bernardino Department of Health. Apple is not complying with a court order requiring it to unlock the handset and turn the information over to the feds. Apple CEO Tim Cook says that if such software ends up in the wrong hands, iPhone users around the world will be in danger of having the personal information stored on their phone, stolen by hackers.

source: NYPost

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53 Comments

1. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

what if the only thing they will find on that phone is flappy bird?

7. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

So then, we should just abandon any search in any case. If they knew without a doubt that a third persons name was on it, they'd most likely also know his name already.

52. sgodsell

Posts: 7201; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The new name of this mystery assailant Apple iPhone should be Jack the rip off.

15. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Then we will know, that despite being terrorist they had good taste in addictive gaming lol.

2. WillieFDiaz

Posts: 127; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Jesus Christ, the FBI will say ANYTHING to get into that device wont they? It's so ridiculous at this point I gotta sit back and laugh and just roll my eyes.

4. Bm888

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 06, 2015

Well this is between a hard place and rock situation..

6. AlikMalix unregistered

I'm so tired of this story.

8. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I see valid points on BOTH sides of the argument. First, everyone wants to keep their sense of privacy, and that is NOT a bad thing in this day and age. But there are also real threats. The problem is, if Apple and other companies are willfully engineering their software to make it so that even with a valid court order no one can get to the information, that can also be a bad thing. Up until computers, the only area that was unable to be forcibly searched was a person's mind. Now we have engineered devices that accomplish the same thing. What I fear is that if Apple continues with this, going so far as to also encrypt their cloud storage as has been reported, why would criminals and terrorists continue to use burner devices, when they can do everything they need to on a smartphone without fear of it's contents being used against them? I value my privacy, but I also value lives as well. And that's what makes this case so difficult. The people on both sides who are absolute in their beliefs are both wrong, because this isn't an issue that is black and white, and I fear that no matter which path we go down, there will be serious repercussions in the future.

53. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Why build cars, planes, vaccines, produce electricity, gasoline, knives, if the terrorists can use them to kill people? Why not beat the sh*t out of a person, if it's a suspect of terrorism? Because of the human rights (or civil liberties, for us citizens).

64. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I'm trying to take a middle ground, and you keep trying to suck me into an argument of extremes. And that's what I've been arguing against this whole time.

68. Xelief

Posts: 62; Member since: Aug 17, 2015

Your middle ground offers no compromising solutions, so what is the point? You didn't say anything that we haven't already heard from the government or Apple.

9. Trakker

Posts: 283; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

Yeah just like the government said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction only to be proven they didn't have a clue but still used that fear to take yet more freedoms away from American people.

22. engineer-1701d unregistered

no not really because when you give people 2 month head start to move that crap before going your not gonna find anything, its like announcing on cnn your gonna start attacks at 9pm, you think the enemy is not watching cnn on what you going to do next wow some people are really stupid

33. iCloud

Posts: 124; Member since: May 15, 2014

You are exactly on point. With all this info about the iphone 5c, the terrorists have already changed their plans unless you are stating they are stupid. Whatever is on the phone is useless per your statement.

14. adamvzwez

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 29, 2015

I live in southern california and my entire family lives in san bernardino. When the news was breaking my local news station KTLA 5 reported that three white males in military tactical gear were shooting and then in the main stream media about a week later it turns out to be 2 arabs? This is all ruse to continue the war in the middle east for oil. The only reason why the US cares about ISIS is that they own major oil fields in Syria. Plz dont be deceived by the 4th branch of the government aka the media. If someone provides me with one of those websites that allows you to turn a picture into web link i will gladly upload the screenshots.

23. engineer-1701d unregistered

you now arabs look white as well and when your being shoot at your not gonna stop and take a selfie to make sure, adam here is a conspiracy enthusiast,

27. maherk

Posts: 6770; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

And you are nothing but an ignorant brainwashed fool. Not one, not two, but every eyewitness and family member who talked to the media, said the exact damn thing. Even police officers declared that it was 3 white male shooters with military uniforms who broke in and started shooting. It's not conspiracy when you have the head chief of San Bernardino's police department go on CNN and every other major media outlet and say that thr suspects are 3 white males. http://anonhq.com/san-bernardino-shooting-witnesses-claim-3-white-men-not-muslim-terror-couple-carried-attacks/

28. Micah007

Posts: 266; Member since: Oct 09, 2014

Ewwww a Nutter site.

43. adamvzwez

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 29, 2015

you may say its a nutter site, but this "nutter site" uses very credible news sources from multiple different outlets and multiple different eye witnesses.

49. greyarea

Posts: 267; Member since: Aug 14, 2015

Alex jones....Do I need to say more?

36. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

100% correct bro.

41. adamvzwez

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 29, 2015

thank you for this link sir. Even tho some dont believe it and call us conspiracy theorists this website you posted is very well put together with multiple interviews from multiple people and very creditable sources and im going to share this link with my friends.

42. adamvzwez

Posts: 51; Member since: Mar 29, 2015

bruh... plz tell me ur being sarcastic XD if anything arabs look more like mexicans like myself

16. carlemillward unregistered

I think the moral of the story is: If you going to be a terrorist, the best phone you could choose is probably an Apple iPhone.

24. engineer-1701d unregistered

they do use them remember france and spain attacks it was iphones thats why spain is fineing apple 1 million euro for not unlocking device when something like this happens

34. BobLawblaw unregistered

Spain attacks? I hope you're not taking about the 2004 Madrid bombing as the iPhone wasn't even around then..

35. BobLawblaw unregistered

And it's France who maybe suing Apple if they don't hand over encrypted data when requested. At least get your facts right before you start spouting fear mongering s**te..

37. darkkjedii

Posts: 30964; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

It's France, ass munch.

45. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

It's also Spain, Apple, & iPhone. The word they should've been capitalized at the beginning, thats should've been that's, fineing should've been fining, and there should've been a period at the end, and probably a couple of commas in there somewhere as well, if you want to get technical.

26. AlikMalix unregistered

But do we blame Apple for making the most secure device and ecosystem?

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