Apple patent filing moves Touch ID to the iPhone or iPad touchscreen

Apple patent filing moves Touch ID to the iPhone or iPad touchscreen
A patent filing made by Apple called "Fingerprint Sensor in an Electronic Device," shows how Touch ID might be placed directly inside the touchscreen of an iPhone or iPad instead of under the home button. The patent would allow users to have their fingerprint scanned by pressing on a specific location on the screen of the handset or tablet.

Security could be enhanced on the iPad by requesting that the user verify his identity by matching the fingerprints on all five fingers on one hand. A palm print could also be employed.

Previous attempts to embed a fingerprint scanner inside a touchscreen have resulted in the placement of additional layers on top of the display which harmed the quality of images seen on the screen. Additionally, touch inputs sometimes would not register on a touchscreen outfitted with the additional material. Apple plans on getting around this by using an integrated circuit that would be placed on the bottom of a cover sheet or on the top of the display. Using a "transparent conductive material such as indium tin oxide," Apple would be able to prevent a drop in the quality and clarity of the images seen on the touchscreen.

The patent filing is partly credited to Dale Setlak, co-founder of AuthenTec. The biometrics company was purchased by Apple in 2012 to help it produce the current Touch ID fingerprint scanner.

source: FPO via AppleInsider



1. TimCook

Posts: 450; Member since: Oct 23, 2014

Apple is the King of Innovation... Well Done Guys.

10. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Innovating is now defined as seeing what others are doing (Samsung was working on this year's ago), then coming a generic patent that simply covers every possible position and finger combination, but not actually the tech to do it?

11. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I mean, don't get me wrong. It's the type of innovating Apple usually does.

23. Neros

Posts: 1016; Member since: Dec 19, 2014

No, they go, buy the best company in the field and then let them develope what apple wants.

39. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Kind of like how Samsung is copying Touch ID? Actually, Apple already has a similar patent for this that they received like 2 years ago. This is just a different way of achieving it. You do know that you can patent something as long as it's done in a different way right?

49. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Not with the language of this patent. It's a patent of having a fingerprint scanner in a screen, not a method of achieving it.

64. tnuc2014

Posts: 294; Member since: Sep 12, 2014

The idea of the patent system is to protect your ideas / designs. If Samsung have already developed and patented this, then they have no worries. If they haven't, then it's open for others to do so.

42. Ninetysix

Posts: 2966; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

It should be the other way around. You should be thinking that neither Sony or Samsung has the tech for this type of fingerprint scanner. AuthenTec on the other hand, they might have the tech to do it. Good thing they are owned by Apple now no?

50. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It doesn't matter if Sony or Samsung have the tech (though they are much more likely than Apple to have it), Sony came up with an actual way to achieve it, not just a patent on the concept.

21. Neros

Posts: 1016; Member since: Dec 19, 2014

They bought out the leading company that specializes in finger print technology. Apple haven't done sh*t as they have no experience in the field, but a blinded iwhacko like yourself wouldn't know that. If apple were so great, they wouldn't have to buy another company to develop touch id on ip5s. Why didn't apple develop touch id themselves, Mr Tim? Cause they don't have the technology. So cease your fanboyism.

29. Ninetysix

Posts: 2966; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Let's see Google's LONG list of acquisitions shall we? Now let's compare it to Apple's. Now rewrite your entire post and replace Apple with Google. Did you guys also know that Samsung files way MORE patents than Apple?

40. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Lol! and the only reason he even cares about Google is Android. Acquisition number 19. Neros just got shut down!

48. UglyFrank

Posts: 2200; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Samsung makes more products than Apple though. You could practically name all of Apple's product categories on one hand,

24. engineer-1701d unregistered

tim you really don't get it do you they are just doing what other companies have tried in the past but with new tech, the article even says that, not to mention samsung has been trying for 2 years to get 100% rate on the touch id though the glass, thats why sapphire screens are so important because they have higher clarity than other glass. innovation is : a new idea, device, or method : the act or process of introducing new ideas, devices, or methods now this would be innovation under the new method if not done or tried by 36 other biotech companies in the world

54. JaroB

Posts: 112; Member since: Feb 13, 2013

Apple is a thief, this is a patent SONY

2. LifeSucks

Posts: 54; Member since: Jan 15, 2015

So does this mean Apple will move to on-screen buttons and remove the (imo excessive) top and bottom bezels.

26. engineer-1701d unregistered

thats what the galaxy s6 was purposed to do have a glass touch id using the same huawei mate 7 touch id the best and fastest in the world. i have personally hoped a company would finally get it right and put it out but problem is if apple does find a way to actually make it real and it comes to market that means its only on apple products they dont do frand patents like the rest of the tech world and would not lease it to other companies

59. mrochester

Posts: 1043; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Correct, it would be a competitive advantage for Apple. Other companies would then be forced to innovate to come up with their own solutions. You'd just have to buy an iPhone then :).

4. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Uh, this already exists...and there are a ton of posts from early last year about others doing the same...seriously I see another trial...

7. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010 Was there a need for a second story 2 days later? Unless they were planning on putting a fingerprint scanner in the display without using Touch ID until now.

8. darkkjedii

Posts: 31764; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Could be a slick implementation of on screen fingerprint sensing.

9. rockers123

Posts: 137; Member since: Sep 08, 2013

Samsung had a plan similar to this one...

12. alumoyo

Posts: 392; Member since: Aug 26, 2013

I remember those were just rumors in the run-up to the Galaxy S5 release. No prototypes or patent applications ever came out.

28. engineer-1701d unregistered

32. engineer-1701d unregistered

44. nctx77

Posts: 2540; Member since: Sep 03, 2013

Apple had a patent similar to this a year prior and everyone thought it would be in the 5s. This is how the Samsung rumors started. Basically they were getting their copy machines ready back then, but Apple released Touch ID. Samsung basically jump added a basic scanner to the S5. Fast forward 1 year and BOOM! They are copying Touch ID. I guess the robots think rumors are patents.

51. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

There was already a working one in a special Samsung edition done by Vargha, january 2013.. (​reen-will-read-your-fingerprints-video) So no, Apple wasn't the first to come up with it.

13. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Which Apple read about, and immediately filed an overbroad, generic patent that seeks to own the concept by only talking about where the sensor could be located (under, in or on top of the display), whether it is localized to one section of the display or is the whole display, and if any number of fingers can be used in any combination. It doesn't have any new tech, or even discuss how it could be achieved, it simply tried to cover any implementation of fingerprint reading with the display. Typical Apple. Such a despicable company.

20. stealthd unregistered

That's not how patents work. You're paranoid and horribly misinformed.

22. tedkord

Posts: 17512; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Read the patent.

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