iPhone X A11 chip with six processor cores to be Apple's most powerful yet

16. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3403; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

I have always though the hex core architecture was the ultimate combo of power and efficiency be it a 2/4 combo or 3/3.I was super excited for the SD808, it really is a shame that qualcomm made a mockery of the hex core architecture with that one, I am at least hoping Apple can succeed where qualcomm failed and do the architecture justice. It goes without saying that I too am very excited to see just how good this new SOC really is.

25. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)

Qualcomm won't shrink down the core count for .big cores to 2 and use the hexa-core setup for it's top-of-the-range SoC... So, that means the Snapdragon 808 wasn't meant to be the best Qualcomm could offer in 2015.

Apple is gonna use the hexa-core setup for it's best SoC of the year, Qualcomm would not, since QC already uses an octa-core setup for that and it works better than a hexa-core one, 4/4 instead of 2/4 or 3/3.

45. mikehunta727 (Posts: 1402; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)

Qualcomms implementation is not better than Apple's choice of going 2+4 core setup in the A11. I mean, the S835 with all 8 cores barely beats the A10 with only 2 cores in multi threaded/core performance.

Now you have 2 more stronger big cores in A11 vs A10, with now 2 more power efficient cores in A11 vs A10. 2+4 in the A11 can all now be used at once unlike the A10.

A11 will have dramatically better multi core performance vs the 835 and even over the 845 which will be based on Cortex A75 from ARM since Apple is now jumping into the HMP game (use all cores at once instead of just one set of cores at a time)

At the end of the day, fierce competition is fantastic for us consumers and tech enthusiast; A11 will be special from a technical stand point.

50. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3403; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

I know it wasn't mean to be the best but was meant to be a good second best and it fall way short of that, then again maybe it was there best chip at the time given the massive problems the SD810 was having. They should have did a much better job at optimizing the SD808 for sustained performance but they crippled it instead.

4. jqnsgr (Posts: 6; Member since: 29 Feb 2016)

In fact, iPhone 6S with 2 cores will run iOS 11. Kisses.

7. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)

And... Android handsets with 2 cores can't run the lightweight iOS?

Even four Cortex-A53 cores can run Android Nougat with ease.

18. Leo_MC (Posts: 3017; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

We will probably never know :).

5. adecvat (Posts: 355; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)

Yep, that is why iPhone 8 will use two cores exactly as before.

11. whatev (Posts: 475; Member since: 28 Oct 2015)

2017: android herd still butthurt and bitter because the iPhone is the fastest and best performance and best selling in the world and apple the most valuable company like 4 times their fav brand with the highest profits that the others could never dream of < 3

14. NoToFanboys (Posts: 3149; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

LMAO, ibend was just pointing out Sheeple hypocrisy, no butthurt there, it is a known fact that iPhones have the fastest SoCs out there.
I think you're the one butthurt just because someone pointed out your fellow sheeple.

17. whatev (Posts: 475; Member since: 28 Oct 2015)

I’ve never been against hardware improvement by apple, but the fact that an iPhone as old as the iPhone 5S is going to be updated to iOS 11 is showing that even a 2013 dual core processor is enough for the latest iOS version, what I hate is android trolls provoking in every apple article, it’s like their guilty pleasure; and despite they “hate” phonearena they are the most regular visitors on this site making it a cash cow for the authors, I don’t have these habits regarding android articles and specialized blogs, I’m not such a psycho

20. Heisenberg (Posts: 210; Member since: 11 Feb 2015)

The same old iPhone 5s has the almost same hardware, look and features of the current iPhone 7. Moreso, the iOS 11 that iphone 5s will receive is just change in user interface and os number. Everything else remains the same.

21. Heisenberg (Posts: 210; Member since: 11 Feb 2015)

The same old iPhone 5s has the almost same hardware, look and features of the current iPhone 7. Moreso, the iOS 11 that iphone 5s will receive is just change in user interface and os number. Everything else remains the same.

22. whatev (Posts: 475; Member since: 28 Oct 2015)

Yeah, I know cause the file manager, screen recording, the new screenshot, payment via iMessage, dark mode and so on are available since iOS 7...

23. NoToFanboys (Posts: 3149; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

I get it, android trolls in this site are cancerous, and I agree on all your points.
But please, stop talking as if only one side is at fault, and do not turn a blind eye on Apple trolls that are equally cancerous on this site, and don't give me that bullcrap that Apple trolls here are minimal.
I don't see you bashing hypocritical and downright retarded trolls from the other side, you even support them sometimes.

24. whatev (Posts: 475; Member since: 28 Oct 2015)

I understand your point and I know there are some apple trolls on android articles but I don’t get involved on their provoking because I’m not like them, I only support them when they are attacking an android troll who generally provoke the fights on apple articles, I’ve already said before that I’m sick of cancerous android trolls, they are everywhere long before I began using iOS, talking about Symbian S60 or ^3 times, those are ancient times! I bet some of the trolls here were born in those years lol

34. xfire99 (Posts: 957; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)

Enough to get latest iOS, but not enough to get all the features. Oh well, at least it get a higher number iOS version and that is enough to satisfies most iOS users.

47. whatev (Posts: 475; Member since: 28 Oct 2015)

At least they will get some features, that’s better than staying forever on the same version the phone was released with, stay mad and bitter, kisses ;-)

28. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 448; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)

Dude. iOS works best with the amount of cores that Apple designs it for. If Apple wants iOS to operate best with 2 cores, then Apple designs it so. If Apple wants iOS to work best with 4 or 6 cores then Apple designs iOS this way. Apple owns its own operating system. Qualcomm doesn’t. That is why iOS on 2 cores can outperform Android on 8 or even 10 cores. Based on Apple’ s excellent performance in the CPU department in the last years, I trust Apple to deliver like the last years the best in smartphone class performance.

35. domfonusr (Posts: 642; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)

All in all, Apple has been catching up in performance at an astonishing rate, not to mention slaying the Snapdragon chips in benchmarks. Yeah, Apple only uses six cores this time, which is less compared to Snapdragon 835/836's eight cores, but in the next few years Apple will be able to either match or leapfrog Qualcomm in terms of direct comparison of specs, even though they really don't need to. They can certainly afford to do that, even if they choose not to at this time.

Then again, I am not terribly worried about how things are at the bleeding edge of tech these days... I used to be that guy back in like 2007-2010, but I'm not anymore. I do still watch the industry, though, as I understand that what we see today in the newest flagships will eventually make its way to the entry-level in five to seven years from now. As I become more busy with work and whatnot, I am sure I will care a little less, too, just because I will not have the time to spend on watching mobile phone tech like I used to.

I sure hope that Apple keeps making the iPhone SE or its replacement... I will always be looking at two-year-old mid-range iPhones as long as they make them, hopefully being able to snag one for a good deal. And even though they run on just two cores, the SE performs better than practically all of the entry-level Android handsets, so it will be a real treat if I can get one... if the price becomes right...

38. TechieXP1969 (banned) (Posts: 14967; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)

I have queation.

Can you show me an IOS device using a SnapDragon chipset?

If not, then what is your basis for your claim?

IOS and Android use software differently.

IOS like Windows has direct hardware access. Android is a Virtual Machine. Only the VM has hardware access, not Android directly.

So any test showing speed is dump and pointless.
Until you understand th3 different and how it affects performance and benchmarks, it is pointless to talk who is faster.

The SnapDragon is faster becajse first,

They tend to be running at higher clock speeds in Android phones.

Android phones have more ram, which more apps cpuld run from ram making them faster.

Those are facts.

If we could run iOS on as galaxy S8 right now, it woukd run circles around the iPhone.

But if we took Andeoid and placed it on Apple hardware, it woukd bench simikar to an Android with similar hardware.

37. TechieXP1969 (banned) (Posts: 14967; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)

No it is not.

You can bring up benchmarks all you want. But without considering differences in how IOS uses hardware in having direct access vs Android which is a Virtual Machine, you will always think iOS is faster.

It's silly is not.

Look at the Note and yet it faster than the iPhone and is running Andeoid and the Touchwiz layer fimull of features.

Yet has better battery life even with 8 cores.

Dude you guys know nothing about tech.

The iPhone is not faster than the Galaxy S or Note. Period.

No matter what side by side or benchmarks show, because the OS software is handled differently.

19. Leo_MC (Posts: 3017; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

My 2017 laptop is also dual-core and it is running a professional OS.
I also have a small tablet with quad-core which has worse performances than the laptop.
And my 2016 phone - with quad-core (running 2 cores at the same time) is twice as fast as my home desktop (which I only use for media and office tools).
You still don't get it that specs don't mean s**t?!

26. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)

"My 2017 laptop is also dual-core and it is running a professional OS.I also have a small tablet with quad-core which has worse performances than the laptop."

Laptop and tablet do no have the same architecture... CISC vs RISC.

That's a lame comparison.

29. Leo_MC (Posts: 3017; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Yes they do; one runs a i family, the other runs an Atom.

39. TechieXP1969 (banned) (Posts: 14967; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)

You already lost when you tried to compare your laptop performance to a smartphone or tablet.

X86/64 is the th3 same as the hardware used in a phone even though they both use similar terminogies.

One uses RISC processing and the other uses CISC.

Window has over 80M lines of code. IOS/Android maybe has 5M.

Apps written for x86 have at least 10M lines of code, while a typical smartphone app may have 5000 or less.

Come on dude.

If you gonna talk tech then k ow what you arebtalking about.

49. Leo_MC (Posts: 3017; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

I could try to find dumber messages than the ones written by you, but I would waste a lot of time in this attempt.

I have already said that the dual-core that powers my laptop is a i family Intel processor and the quad core that powers my tablet is an Atom family Intel processors, both using the same CISC computing instructions.

Now gtfo of here, because I don't like to speak to people like you!