Video shows how the Apple iPhone X Face ID will work
by Alan Friedman / Sep 09, 2017, 5:04 PM
Developers have been digging into the leaked Gold Master of iOS 11, looking for as many tidbits that they can find. One such developer, Guilherme Rambo, has found some information pertaining to the Face ID setup process for the Apple iPhone X. This is the tenth anniversary model that will feature an OLED panel. Apple was unable to embed fingerprint scanner Touch ID under the OLED screen. At the same time, it will be doing away with the home button. As a result, Apple had to resort to plan B. That apparently calls for the use of a front-facing camera that will use 3D scanning to recognize users' faces.
With this facial recognition system, the camera will be able to unlock the iPhone X and verify identification for Apple Pay. In other words, any application that requires Touch ID can employ facial recognition instead. You might recall that Apple analyst extraordinaire Ming-Chi Kuo called this set up "Revolutionary," when he told KGI Securities clients about it back in February.
To set up Face ID, iPhone X users will take selfies of their face from various angles. Apple's purchase of tech firm RealFace probably played a huge part in this new feature. The Israeli company's technology is said to be highly accurate when it comes to facial recognition, and can confirm a match in "millionths" of a second. The software will internally produce a 3D map of a user's face, which adds an extra layer of security for the phone. RealFace's tech is so sensitive, that it can correctly identify identical twins.
Check out what reportedly is the Face ID UI in action by clicking on the video at the top of this story. After a one-time setup, users should not have to go through this process every time they want to unlock the phone. And according to Guilherme, there is a haptic feedback when the shutter button on the camera UI is pressed.
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Simply Ah-Mazing apple, Ah-Mazing
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 5:09 PM 3
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Just release this beauty of a phone already ffs..
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 5:32 PM 8
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And let's imagine the following: Scanning your face/head with Sony technology, introduced in last Xperia xz1, put it on 3D printer and place the printed face in front of iPhone X. Will it unlock the phone. And if it do, will this be facegate?
posted on Sep 10, 2017, 8:55 AM 0
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Sheeple used to complain about how FPscanner on back panel is stupid because you cant unlock it while it lay flat on table, and you need to lift it.. But now look at this, lol.. Not only you need to lift it, you also need to align you face to you phone just to unlock it.. Totally neat, right? lol...
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 8:21 PM 18
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Can you read? He stated people.complained thst th3 FPS bring in the back, makes you pickup your phone to use it. But in order tonuse the face unlock, you would have to pick up the phone. Understand now?
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 10:38 PM 11
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Idiot. You need to align ur face during set up ONLY. I heard rumor that you can unlock iohone by just looking at the screen, which means no need to f**king align your ugly face on the screen just like ur samsung face idiots that can be fake. And now u r trying to say that samsung gets it first, yes they get it first but half baked. Wtf
posted on Sep 11, 2017, 3:11 AM 1
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You heard a rumor? Well that's convincing. The last part of the video is the unlock animation. Everything about it suggests you will need to have your face central in the frame. So no, it doesn't seem like it will unlock even when it's flat on a table. Nothing suggests that nor was it possible with RealFace which is the company that developed the tech behind FaceID.
posted on Sep 11, 2017, 2:01 PM 0
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Not secure enough they need a finger print scanner on the back aswell.
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 5:09 PM 14
This is suppose to be more secure than a fingerprint scanner
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 5:57 PM 4
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If its just a face then how so? the only thing that I know that's unique about us is our iris and fingerprint. 1. What if you have a twin? It states it can identify twins not sure how though. 2. If someone had similar face marking points 3. Can it work in the dark? 4. Can someone create a facial model?
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 6:58 PM 10
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Answered in order: 1. There are two issues with this proposed question. The first is, of course, the rarity of identical twins. The second is the assumption that identical twins means you have the exact same facial features, like some sort of clone. All humans, regardless of twin or no, have features separating themselves from other humans. These can be detected by precise sensors. 2. No one on Earth has the exact same facial markings as you... acne assures each of us that. 3. Why wouldn't it? 4. Why would they? At that point, why not "just" rob them at gun point for their phone? That'd be much cheaper (not to mention easier) to do in general. No one is going through all those hoops to steal from a normal person.
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 7:06 PM 4
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Identical twins aren't that rare, in my family we have 3. When the twin girls were indistinguishable until their late teens, when one got fat and the other didn't. The way facial recognition works is by establishing various points of recognition upon your face. The more points made the higher the accuracy of the recognition, but also the longer it takes to verify. For it to be more secure than a fingerprint, you'd need a hell of a lot of points for recognition, especially when utilizing 3D models. But even the most advanced techniques, way more advanced than Apple is supposed to be using have at best 98% accuracy in optimal conditions, less than 90% accuracy in lower light situations. It makes you wonder how accurate it's really gonna be and still be fast and secure. I'd maybe think 75% accuracy at best in optimal conditions, less than 50% in low light, odd angle situations. At the same time using the technique will leave Apple open to criticism if it truly is more secure and not included on the iPhone 8 models and just in the iPhone X. Another issue is how does it cope with facial expressions, swelling, abrasions, facial hair and so on. Odds are it will be less reliable and accurate, possibly almost useless.
posted on Sep 10, 2017, 6:38 AM 3
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The only way two people, including twins, could have the same exact facial features is if from the time they born you exposed both to the exact environmental factors. In other words: only if they ate the same things, went outside in the sun the same amount of time, and performed the exact same facial expressions over and over again (thereby making the same wrinkle lines) could you have the same face. Identical twins may have the same face at birth, but they become different as time goes on due to the factors I listed above.
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 7:37 PM 3
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Face Unlock is total useless feature if there is no alternative available. There are many cases where face recognisation will not work properly. Think of a Muslin women wearing Hijab( sorry if my spelling isnt correct), bikers have to remove their helmet to unlock the phone,in extreme weather where we used to cover our face fully or partially.
posted on Sep 10, 2017, 11:39 AM 0
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Not according to the few on this site that say "having more than one security measure means that the options aren't secure to begin with" but cool let's see how it differs from any other face/eye scanning tool at unlocking your phone...
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 5:18 PM 8
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What if you gained/lost a ton of weight?
posted on Sep 09, 2017, 6:00 PM 0
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