Android is not the reason why the Android powered Nokia Normandy has apparently been scrubbed

Android is not the reason why the Android powered Nokia Normandy has apparently been scrubbed
Despite leaked photographs of an Android powered Nokia model called the Normandy, it would seem that the project has been scrubbed due to Microsoft's impending acquisition of Nokia's Devices and Services division. Still, we did manage to grab some more information on Nokia's "Project N". Apparently, when deciding which OS to use for the Asha range back in 2012,  Android was one of the choices along with Swipe UI. Of course, the Finnish OEM went in a different direction.

But with Nokia losing the Lumia line in the Microsoft deal, and keeping the Asha series, it was thought that perhaps an Android powered Asha model could spur some interest. While it appears as though the phone has been 86'd by Nokia, the recently leaked render from evleaks that we showed you on Monday has some expecting Nokia to revive the project. One published report has the device launching with a 4 inch screen, a dual SIM variant, and a model number of RM-80. A forked version of Android would be driving the phone. This report cites unnamed sources as saying that Nokia has already put the phone on its release path, which means that even the Microsoft-Nokia merger can't stop it. But that may not be true.

While the Microsoft-Nokia deal might stop the Normandy from appearing, it has nothing to do with Android. The Asha line is not part of the deal, so Microsoft has no control over the Normandy, and in fact, the licensing deals that Microsoft has would make it profit greatly from increased Android purchases. The problem is that the deal prevents Nokia from putting its name on any handset for two years after the merger is closed.
 
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45. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I predict that Nokia will return to the smart phone business when it can. When it does I think that Nokia will make Android smart phones as well as a good MS Windows smart phone. When Elop took over Nokia CEO spot it appears Nokia could not make both a Windows smart phone and an Android smart phone at the same time like Samsung, HTC, and others did back then. Nokia was on the ropes heading downward When Elop took over. I do not think Elop was a trogon Horse. He did make Nokia a slimmer company and made it the BEST Windows smart phone OEM to date and it's starting to make profits on Windows smart phones sales. some do not like Mr Elop but he did make some success at Nokia. he leaves it next year when Microsoft takes over what it purchased from Nokia.

43. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

People are drunk here. Microsoft gets ALL Nokia handsets...ALL. MS gets all Nokia branding on smartphones for two years. Microsoft (for some really odd reason, as I've said before) gets full use of the Nokia name on basic, feature, and Asha phones for ten years. Nokia keeps the patent portfolio, R&D, Here Maps, Nokia Networks, and anything else that doesn't involve production of a handset or tablet. Nokia has a no-compete clause on smartphones for the following two years after the deal is complete. In two years, Nokia COULD come back and build a smartphone, but that's it...no flips or candy bars. On top of that, they will be starting from pure scratch. They'll even have to go and find new production factories. Nothing on Alan, but this article and some people here do not have their facts straight. I have two sets of stockholder letters that tell the story as it is. Cheers.

34. volcano

Posts: 348; Member since: Jan 25, 2013

asha and lumia aquired by microsoft

28. noteseries

Posts: 80; Member since: Oct 29, 2013

okay... 2 years its not a long time... :)

30. boosook

Posts: 1442; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

What do you think it will happen after 2 years? Nokia doesn't have a mobile phone division anymore, it's been sold to microsoft, together with all their kno how, patents and even factories. Do you expect Nokia to be able to come back into mobile phone business after 2 years? How? And with which products? Nokia is now a network appliances manufacturer and will not make mobile phones again, as it happened to Ericsson when they sold their phone business to Sony. Microsoft will make some nokia branded phones during the next 2 years, just to ease the transiction from nokia phones to surface phones (or whatever name MS will choose), because the nokia brand is so strong that it is the only brand that sells WP, and this is a problem for MS. After two years, MS will get rid of the nokia branding and nokia phones will be just a memory from the past.

26. henrik6504

Posts: 9; Member since: Aug 24, 2012

And this from Microsoft own official website: "Microsoft is also acquiring Nokia’s Mobile Phones business unit, which serves hundreds of millions of customers worldwide, and had sales of 53.7 million units in the second quarter of 2013. Microsoft will acquire the Asha brand and will license the Nokia brand for use with current Nokia mobile phone products. Nokia will continue to own and manage the Nokia brand. This element provides Microsoft with the opportunity to extend its service offerings to a far wider group around the world while allowing Nokia’s mobile phones to serve as an on-ramp to Windows Phone."

25. henrik6504

Posts: 9; Member since: Aug 24, 2012

If you read in ZDNET website it seems like Asha OS will be included in Microsoft: "Microsoft will acquire Nokia's devices and services unit including both the Asha and Lumia brands. While Microsoft figures out how to integrate Nokia into its own business, it will retain Nokia's brand name under licence to sell both Asha devices and other feature phones."

17. muhsen

Posts: 281; Member since: Jun 07, 2012

there is some misinfo in the article, Nokia is not going to keep the asha series or any line of mobile phones (or tablets). The ashas series and the whole mobile devices unit (lumia , asha & s40 ) will be acquired by microsoft. the difference is that the asha and s40 devices will keep the "Nokia" brand for ten years under licence from the nokia company while the lumia phones will only keep the "Nokia" brand for 18 months until microsoft finds a unified brand for windows devices ( tablets & lumia phones ). here's a quote from the article that the author linked in this article ( the first link :http://www.phonearena.com/news/Microsoft-to-acquire-Nokias-Devices---Services-for-7.17-billion_id46994) : "Microsoft will be acquiring all of the business and design teams behind the Lumia devices; and, of course, Microsoft will also be acquiring the Lumia brand name, as well as the Asha brand name, which has a lot of cache in the low-end market. " and a quote from the press release within the same linked article : " Microsoft will acquire substantially all of Nokia's Devices and Services business, including the Mobile Phones and Smart Devices business units as well as an industry-leading design team, operations including all Nokia Devices & Services-related production facilities......Microsoft is acquiring Nokia's Smart Devices business unit, including the Lumia brand and products.......Microsoft is also acquiring Nokia's Mobile Phones business unit, which serves hundreds of millions of customers worldwide, and had sales of 53.7 million units in the second quarter of 2013. Microsoft will acquire the Asha brand and will license the Nokia brand for use with current Nokia mobile phone products. Nokia will continue to own and manage the Nokia brand. This element provides Microsoft with the opportunity to extend its service offerings to a far wider group around the world while allowing Nokia's mobile phones to serve as an on-ramp to Windows Phone." it's such a shame that the author (it became a habit of some of PA authors) didn't pay any attention to the article he linked. and guess what ??? that linked article is written by a colleague within( and is published on) the blog the author writes for!!!!!

20. Alan01

Posts: 672; Member since: Mar 21, 2012

If you had bothered to read a newer story,which was used as a source for mine, you would have read that the Asha series is NOT included as part of the deal http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia-reportedly-shelves-its-Android-device-plans-shifts-to-smart-wearables-and-wireless-charging-tech_id50391 Regards, Alan F.

27. muhsen

Posts: 281; Member since: Jun 07, 2012

i have read that and it doesn't add weight to ur point. It points to a far worse point that some of PA authors have really shallow info about the subject that they r writing about not to mention persisting on it if it's wrong. My 2nd quote in my above comment is from a Nokia-Microsoft press release but to cut it off , I am just gonna put some important articles from Nokia conversations (obviously u haven't bothered to read them):http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/09/16/welcoming-nokias-mobile-phones-customers-to-the-microsoft-family/ and this :http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/09/04/whats-next-for-lumia-and-asha/ all of these come from Nokia themselves and r of 1000 times more weight than of any other source and there r lots of others too(http://conversations.nokia.com/tag/nextchapter​/), so obviously Microsoft is buying the whole mobile unit with asha included. that's as certain as the fact that the temperature of 100C is where the water boils . with the newer article u have mentioned, that puts another PA author in a not-so-nice situation.

14. nexusdude

Posts: 151; Member since: Aug 22, 2013

So... Nokia has 2 years to build the absolutely best Android phone and then shove the M$ deal in their a$$. Hope dies last.

31. lalalaman

Posts: 638; Member since: Aug 19, 2013

i still dont understand as all the patents and NOKIA Tweaks are sold to MS...so what is left of Nokia would be its simple hardware used in ASHAs

38. starkiller306

Posts: 58; Member since: Nov 13, 2013

the patents are Nokia's and Nokia's alone. they're not sold to anybody. it's only the mobiles and services division that ms is acquiring.

13. N-fanboy

Posts: 543; Member since: Jan 12, 2013

Would have been great to see android on a nokia device. But that would be weired because the low end devices would have a better OS than the flagships lol

12. faizan-sharif

Posts: 98; Member since: Jun 26, 2013

I do nt get the news from phone arena, can any one tell me exact deal MS and Nokia? it was news before that Asha series will also bw with MS, now its other story with this article? Secondly 2 yrs merger program after that Nokia will be able to use its name? so microsoft will use which name? will it use its own name for lumia series after 2 yrs? theses are the questions i am not able to understand, please any one, help understanding :(

16. dratomic

Posts: 483; Member since: Oct 09, 2013

youre right. i heard that asha series was also a part of the deal

11. itsdeepak4u2000

Posts: 3718; Member since: Nov 03, 2012

The problem is that they can't come up with another name to bypass such deal and make the Normandy true.

10. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

Okay, since the Asha is not part of the acquisition deal that means not just the Normandy will appear, there will be many more Asha series Android phones coming right? I mean, Nokia can make a mid-high end Asha Android phone like the Moto X right?

15. tadaa

Posts: 267; Member since: Apr 18, 2013

just to clafify unless the deal was changed, asha is part of the acquisition deal. and nokia cannot release SMARTPHONES under its own brand for two years. i don't know why they keep on repeating that asha will remain with nokia

22. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Thats what I thought. I dont know why EVERYONE is trying to say that the Asha phones were not part of the deal but I do recall seeing that it was.

23. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Also I do believe that Nokia cannot release ANY PHONES not just smartphones as part of the Microsoft buyout.

6. kindlefireowner

Posts: 504; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

Fandroids got Punked again. Next you will believe in 2014, Samsung will release quality phones on every level. No more Samsung Galaxy Centura?

7. Reality_Check

Posts: 277; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

And Trollers will continue their line with a new generation of Trolls.

18. boosook

Posts: 1442; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

Fandroids don't care about a Nokia with a customized version of Android, we have great devices, from the HTC One to the Sony Z1 or LG G2, from the Nexus 5 and the Moto X to cheaper alternatives like the Moto G. Whether you're looking for build quality, premium feel, good camera, Google experience, weather sealing, big screen or pocketability, there's an Android device that suits your needs even without Nokia. What's more, no Android fan would buy a device with an Android fork without the Google ecosystem, so the fact that this phone will never be released is completely irrelevant to us. We're perfectly happy anyway, and we have plenty of choices already.

36. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

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2. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

Dude they are legend in all these categories. So don't worry because all Nokia's phones are best out there.

4. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

Hell yea.

32. lalalaman

Posts: 638; Member since: Aug 19, 2013

plzz answer me!!i dont understand how nokia will be Nokia again as all the patents and nokia tweaks are sold to ms.....or nokia is still safe with patents???

33. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

If I'm not wrong, the patents still belongs to Nokia. Don't worry, Nokia will be back in few years later.

9. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

If it's Microsoft, it won't be a legend.

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