Analysts say BlackBerry Z10 off to better start than Nokia Lumia 920

Analysts say BlackBerry Z10 off to better start than Nokia Lumia 920
The Nokia Lumia 920 got off to a strong start. You might remember that in France, pre-orders for the Windows Phone 8 device topped those for the Apple iPhone 5. Then came news that in the U.K., retailer Clove three times in a row, sold out of its inventory of the phone before they could get any units in the store. Before that occured, long lines were seen snaking around a Nokia Store in Shanghai not once, but twice. The first time they were put on sale in the store, the Nokia Lumia 920 sold out in two hours. The second time, the yellow version of the phone was all gone in twenty minutes.

What brings up these stories of the Nokia Lumia 920 are reports from a couple of analysts, Bernstein's Pierre Ferragu and Barclays’ Jeff Kvaal, that suggests that the BlackBerry Z10 is off to a strong start with Kvaal saying that the Z10 is off to an even faster start than the Nokia Lumia 920. And that is obviously saying a lot, based on how strong sales of Nokia's flagship model had been in its early days. We mentioned Ferragu's comments yesterday, when his decision to upgrade BlackBerry stock helped lead to a 15% rally in the shares. Kvaal's people in the U.K. basically told him that sales were solid with some stores sold out and others with limited inventory, basically repeating what other analysts had said on Monday.

To say that the BlackBerry Z10 is off to a faster start than the Nokia Lumia 920 is obviously a big deal for BlackBerry. Still, we should have a better idea of how this opening week turned out for the company when official numbers are released. In the meantime, you can imagine the backslapping and high fives taking place in Waterloo, because for the first time in years, BlackBerry is relevant again.

source: AllThingsD

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67 Comments

64. thealphageek1

Posts: 942; Member since: Feb 02, 2013

@phonemirer(comment #62): Absolutely!! That would be awesome!!

67. asseek

Posts: 164; Member since: Sep 12, 2012

its simple, u can have the Nokia N9

61. US_Eminem

Posts: 12; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

bb has b8r starting sale than lumia920...... SO?? Whats d big deal in dis? BB10 is launched in region which supports bb like canada contrary to which nokia realeased 920 in regions which does not support it (us,europe)...still they managed to get a strong sale .....recently nokia has started shipping in se asia....their fav territory ......so dis comparison b/w sales of bb and l920 is absolutely absurd.......bcoz when bb will launch in other parts of world they are going to lose some sale whereas nokia is going to gain sale bcoz they hv not really launched in their own territory

63. thealphageek1

Posts: 942; Member since: Feb 02, 2013

BB10 launching in its traditional strongholds like Canada and the U.K. Is smart. That's a great strategy and it's paying off for BlackBerry. Launch in your strongholds, get strong sales and good buzz because of it, then go into weaker areas guns blazing, with a good amount of sales in your war chest. Yes, Nokia did launch in areas where they were presumably weakest first, and get some sales out of it. But had they launched in their strongholds first(the very few they have left)they would have gotten even more sales. And please know that Asia, the UAE, the Phillipines, and Africa(especially africa)are where BlackBerry has a HUGE following. India too. They will get GREAT sales in those areas. There is no absurdity in this comparison whatsoever. They are comparing the sales of a product belonging to a company that launched with a totally new OS(Nokia) vs a company that basically did the same thing(BlackBerry).

58. thealphageek1

Posts: 942; Member since: Feb 02, 2013

@PhoneArenaUser: One of the reasons BB10 has more functionality than WP8: the underlying OS which powers BB10 is a true microkernel operating system. Windows is not. Every driver, protocol stack, filesystem, application, ect runs outside of the kernel. If any of those fail, the OS still keeps on going. The phone won't crash. And whatever failed will just be restarted. Windows does not do this. So, this can guarantee little to no crashing of a bb10 handset. Not the same for wp. The OS just cannot do this. The fact that QNX is used in such places as NASA and hospitals and nuclear power plants just proves the point of how powerful and versatile the OS is. With it on a phone, comes the possibility to many more things than Windows currently does. Windows doesn't even have a file manager. The software powering BB10 allows for much more functionality than the software powering a windows phone. And when I say I'm happy that BB10 is off to a good start, I'm going off of what the carriers are saying, not the analyst. For example: Bell Canada has said that early orders of the BBZ10 have topped any previous BB model. Rogers, Bell Canada and Telus have all said early customer response has been very positive. Carphone Warehouse in the UK reported some stores sold out of Z10's in 20 minutes. O2, Vodafone Group Plc, Orange and EE are all seeing robust demand. These are the CARRIERS talking! Not analyst. BB10 has true multitasking, being a RTOS. The apps are always running, be it in the background or under the hood. No such thing with windows phone. There is no universal search with windows. None. With BB10, there is universal search. Even in the browser. BB10 has flash in the browser. And it does pretty well with HTML5. I can view my favorite websites as they are meant to be viewed. With windows, you only have the one option. More options. More choices. More functionality. QNX also allows developers to add more "baked in" functionality with the OS as opposed to windows. Again, more functionality. As I said in my earlier post, I like windows, also. I hope to see Nokia and MS do extremely well. (I only name Nokia even though there are many windows oems because Nokia is the only windows oem putting out drool-worthy handsets based on windows). But I prefer more choice. More options. Especially on a smartphone. And even though I truly believe Nokia makes the best hardware on a smartphone, the OS is holding it back. With BB10, there is so much more potential.

62. phonemirer

Posts: 111; Member since: Dec 07, 2012

wait a sec, are u trying to say that the best would be lumia EOS with bb10 ??

45. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

So far, I'm hearing not good stuff about BB10. Check out video comparison between BB Z10 vs Lumia 920 at pocketnow.com.

49. DigitalJedi_X2

Posts: 346; Member since: Jan 30, 2012

Then you're the only one hearing bad things because all I've seen is positive news. And because a WP fanboy put up a video of his favorite phone beating another doesn't mean the other phone isn't doing well. Not at all.

56. pookiewood

Posts: 631; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

Pocketnow a site known to bash Windows put up a review and stated that the Lumia 920 beats out the Z10.

66. xq10xa

Posts: 810; Member since: Dec 07, 2010

This very website didn't give it a positive review.

44. PhoneAddiction

Posts: 79; Member since: Nov 07, 2012

I jumped off the BB bandwagon in 2010. I'm never going back!

43. PhoneAddiction

Posts: 79; Member since: Nov 07, 2012

I've been hearing a lot of good things about BB10.. I think someone will sue them.

33. xq10xa

Posts: 810; Member since: Dec 07, 2010

How is it off to a better start when it isn't even out in the US yet? Not for another month...

48. DigitalJedi_X2

Posts: 346; Member since: Jan 30, 2012

So because it hasn't launched in the US yet means its not doing well? Do you know how many billion dollar companies don't do business in the US?? To even suggest that is the height of ignorance.

65. xq10xa

Posts: 810; Member since: Dec 07, 2010

Height of ignorance? Read your previous comments. Just negative insults with absolutely no data to back up your claims. What I mean by "How is it off to a better start when it isn't even out in the US yet?" is how can they come up with the better start suggestion when it is only out UK? Do you know how many billion dollar companies don't do business in the UK? It might be a start in UK. They won't know if it is off to a better start in all countries. This information is just coming from one analyst. You can easily check up how a phone is doing by seeing how their accessories are selling on eBay and Amazon. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

32. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

I've used WP for the last 3 years and still have no problem with it. Sure WP have more work to do but that's ok. I don't need MS to slam everything in all at once. I love my updates, especially major ones. Fix the bugs, listen to the users, implement, and send the update. Here's to all the hate and complaints, just GTFO! Its that simple.

31. RobotMan

Posts: 145; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Android>BB>BADA>WP8>iOS. If BB can be better then Android, then maybe time to change.

55. pookiewood

Posts: 631; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

WP8>BB>Conical>iOS>Bada>Garbage>ABrokenDownPinto>A​ndroid Fixed.

30. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

What problem you have MS darac? Are you Troll's boyfriend or something. Did MS/wp rape your anus?

50. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

You're gross.

27. thealphageek1

Posts: 942; Member since: Feb 02, 2013

Totally agree with you, @DigitalJedi_X2. BB10 is better the WP8. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of both, but BB10 does have more functionality and versatility than WP8. The underlying OS from which its from, QNX, is more powerful and thus allows for superior functionality. Just look at all the things QNX is currently used in, from hospital equipment to nuclear power plants, and you will see that it's just obvious. I'm happy to hear that the BlackBerry Z10 is off to such a good start, though I also can't wait to see official numbers. Bravo, BlackBerry. However, I do think that there is room for everyone on the playing field. Is the Nokia Lumia 920 better than the BlackBerry Z10 hardware wise? Absolutely. But software wise? The BlackBerry Z10 is the clear victor hear. But I would personally like to see both Nokia and BlackBerry successful again with their respective OS's.

29. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

"...but BB10 does have more functionality and versatility than WP8." For example? "The underlying OS from which its from, QNX, is more powerful and thus allows for superior functionality." Could you explain, please? "Just look at all the things QNX is currently used in, from hospital equipment to nuclear power plants, and you will see that it's just obvious." QNX was used in such places just because it was aimed to embedded systems while Windows was aimed to daily human needs. Also each embedded system has different needs so there is different modifications of QNX and in this case stability of OS also may be different. When someone says that it was used by NASA or in hospital equipment or in the nuclear power plants, that's mean they just want to impress you, in other words it just a load pronouncements to impress you - marketing! For examle Linux and QNX, they both are Unix-like Operating Systems, so what? In this case Android is also based on Linux! But if you still want to look from this perspective, then you already should know that Windows is even more wide spread than QNX. Also does it should care for you that QNX is used by NASA or in hospital equipment or in the nuclear power plants, for you should care only how it will work in your phone!!! Also remember that QNX from hospital or NASA is not the same as in your phone even if it is still have the same name. "I'm happy to hear that the BlackBerry Z10 is off to such a good start..." Look at articles about BlackBerry on various sites, people even not bother to write some comment about BlackBerry, then it is obvious that they don't feel any excitement about it and that's mean that thise Analysts may be telling not truth just to attract some attention. "But software wise? The BlackBerry Z10 is the clear victor hear." Agai, could you explain your statement? P.S. I don't have anything against BlackBerry, just say what I see and what I think.

47. DigitalJedi_X2

Posts: 346; Member since: Jan 30, 2012

So you think if people reading the article don't comment on a story it means Blackberry isn't doing well?? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's completely ASININE!

51. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

I say that it is ONE OF THE INDICATORS that people are not interested in BlackBerry and as result if they are not interested then they won't buy it.

59. fanboysrdumb

Posts: 44; Member since: Jan 12, 2013

go to school and do something with your life your a joke by saying this kind of crap. these forums are dominated by mostly android fans what did you expect ? and please change your profile picture you are a complete hypocrite with that picture and such foolish comments.

57. pookiewood

Posts: 631; Member since: Mar 05, 2012

You realize Windows CE and Windows NT are used in plenty of Hospital Equipment as well right?

26. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Nice to hear..

21. DigitalJedi_X2

Posts: 346; Member since: Jan 30, 2012

BB10 is far superior to WP8. Functionality wise. Power wise. QNX is far superior to Windows. You have to be either insane or retarded to think its not. Blackberry was always ahead of WP in terms of market share. And it always will be.

22. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

"BB10 is far superior to WP8. Functionality wise. Power wise. QNX is far superior to Windows. You have to be either insane or retarded to think its not." At the moment I see just a bunch of statements, insulting and any strong arguments...

17. freebee269

Posts: 543; Member since: Aug 10, 2012

check out this pocketnow review. good review. i'd choose lumia 920 over bb10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mhLbpzE9NQ&feature=player_embedded#!

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