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Verizon to axe 'grandfathered' unlimited data plans
If you’ve been clinging on to your unlimited data plan from Verizon ever since it made the switch to tiered services, Big Red will be coming to pry your precious from your hands. At the Global Technology, Media and Telecom Conference in Boston, Verizon CFO Fran Shammo stated that Verizon intends to sunset grandfathered unlimited data plans for good.

Those that were grandfathered in were existing 3G customers before Verizon made the switch to its data plans. Shamoo says that as these 3G unlimited customers transition to 4G LTE service, they will have to purchase Verizon’s data-share plan that it plans to unveil this summer. “Everyone will be on data share,” he said.

The specifics of this new plan have not been detailed as of yet, but it seems that those with multiple lines on an account, such as families and business, will see the greatest benefit. Shamoo said, “If I can add as many devices as I want, that is more efficient from a family perspective and a small business perspective,” making it seem evident that this plan will be a single price for the account and all lines will share the data cap.

"A lot of our 3G base is on unlimited," Shammo said. "When they migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share. That is beneficial to us."

Of course it is. As far as benefit to the customer, until pricing and caps are released, it is hard to tell where this deal falls in terms of value, particularly how much of an effect this will have on individual line customers.

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posted on 16 May 2012, 12:20 1

1. android1234 (Posts: 106; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)


Wait im on 4G LTE unlimited right now, does that mean they can take it away, or its just for current 3G customers switching to a 4G LTE???

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:31 3

6. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)


Yeah that exactly what it means

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:33 4

9. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)


Im right there with you. I've been 4G unlimited since the TBolt was released last year. I wont complain too much as long as I can get a sufficient amount of data for the same price point I'm at right now. 5gb for $30 would be more than enough. However, if they try to put me on the $30 2gb package, I guess I will have to go the way of Sprint or TMobile.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:34 2

10. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1006; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)


your LTE-unltd plan is most likely gone

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:04 3

28. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I bought a 4G thunderbolt for this very reason but had to switch due to it being intolerable. This article is unclear though if I stay on 3G will I lose unlimted data still?

Does anyone know of a petition I could sign against this?

Someone heeeellllllllppppppp!!! I only use 11 gb of data per year but U don't want to worry about this kind of stuff. Maybe i go to sprint even though I don't want to leave verizion. I can't do at&t or t-mobile. And sprint data speeds are barely tolerable.

Verizion you could atleast take me out to dinner because I like to get wined and dinned before i get F U C K E D!!!

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:35 4

52. remixfa (Posts: 13906; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


If you UPGRADE you will lose your unlimited. They cant force you to change until you upgrade or change your plan, you and VZW are bound to the contract you signed.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:47 1

58. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Alright follow up question if i get a 4g phone now can I keep unlimited then. What if i upgradeto a 3g phone.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:49 2

59. bubbadoes (Posts: 328; Member since: 03 May 2012)


ok, then pay $650 plus for your next phone to keep your unlimited plan...Most customers are under 2 gigs anyway...so unlimited (only sounds good)...VW has promotions of 4gigs for $30 bucks when you upgrade to an LTE phone...this is more than enough data so axing unlimited really want bother me and I have 3 unlimited data lines on my plan

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:59 2

64. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Breakout is only 360. The 4gb deal won't last too!!!

posted on 16 May 2012, 14:30 1

73. Fallout09 (Posts: 417; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Not so much. In most states carriers reserve the right to change the plan and prices at anytime.... as long as they provide you notice 30 days. With in 30 days after change, you can break your contract with no etf.

posted on 16 May 2012, 14:34 3

74. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


As long as i can break my contract and go to sprint that is fine

posted on 16 May 2012, 18:41

114. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Probably will happen to them too.

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:14

85. fwinst (Posts: 57; Member since: 08 May 2010)


You don't have to upgrade. If you have an unlimited plan with VZW, your initial contract ended some time ago. They can, and will move everyone to tiered data plans. If you're concerned, call VZW customer service.

posted on 16 May 2012, 19:17 1

116. goos2134 (Posts: 19; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)


they can take your unlimited data anytime they want. it is a feature. You are not bound by contract to have a certain level of data just data. your contract says u will maintain a calling plan with them for at least 2 years and you will maintain a data pack on that phone not a certain kind of data. just data. when the share plan comes you will loose the unlimited data. or they will do what att did and cap your "unlimited" plan you just wont have overages.

posted on 16 May 2012, 23:14 2

129. theruleslawyer (Posts: 108; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


Not really. They can unilaterally choose to change your contract. All you can do is leave. If they decided that unlimited data was dead for everyone tomorrow, they could do it. If you actually read your contract you'd know that.

posted on 16 May 2012, 23:35 1

132. jal033 (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 May 2012)


http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-verizon-from-killing-unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition&utm_term=share_button_modal

posted on 16 May 2012, 17:28 2

100. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)


A lot of our 3G base is on unlimited," Shammo said. "When they migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share. That is beneficial to us.

That is beneficial to us? not to the customers.

posted on 16 May 2012, 17:39 2

102. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3538; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Read the article. This should have been done a long time ago. People abuse data especially people with Android handsets.

posted on 16 May 2012, 23:31 5

131. sinfulta (Posts: 268; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Sounds like this is only going to happen to 3G customers from the way I read the article. Verizon for a fact wants EVERYONE off 3G. Which is one of the reason they are dumping 4G LTE over city over city over city so much quicker than anyone else. ATT adds 5 cities. Verizon added what? 24 just yesterday or day before. My guess is they want as many people off 3G as possible to free up tons of spectrum. Then once they're 3G network is blanketed by 4G LTE, they will reuse that spectrum to start working LTE revisions (Since they're are 8 possible revisions).

It's one of the reasons I think Verizon skipped straight to LTE and bypassed EVDO Rev B and C while Tmobile and ATT kept pushing they're revisions of HSPA+.

I work in the network field and help build site technology and I can bet this is what Verizon is up too. They want that 3G Spectrum free'd up from coast to coast. If this is what they are up too and will start working on 2nd revision LTE. They will be deadly by 2015/16. They will end up having so much coverage and so much spectrum it's going to be hard to match. This whole data thing is getting nuts. I'm on Unlimited with ATT and Verizon (work and personal) and I think I only use 500mb on each a month. I don't know what all you guys are doing. I work 45-50hrs a week and if i'm at home I have Wifi. I just don't have the time. Maybe I'm just old. (in my late 30's) lol

posted on 16 May 2012, 23:36 2

133. SprintLUVah (Posts: 10; Member since: 14 May 2009)


Sinful! Where the hell have you been? Haven't seen you comment on something for forever. I totally agree. Verizon is not stupid they are up to something.

posted on 16 May 2012, 23:39 3

135. greenrolaids (Posts: 47; Member since: 04 Feb 2012)


i watch netflix on my bus ride to and from work.

I hit 4gb on the 12th of this month.

I have unlimited with verizon, i dont know what to do.

I am expecting verizon to come out with some cool new phones in the next month. But my guess is that the new phones will come out in the summer to get all of us unlimited data users to switch over to tiered.

I just might have to buy the razr maxx before june 20th to keep my unlimited for a couple more years.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:21 3

2. android_sucks (Posts: 111; Member since: 28 Jul 2011)


Go Big Red!!!!

posted on 16 May 2012, 17:39

103. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3538; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I agree.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:21 9

3. andreww.1993 (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Sep 2011)


NOOOOOOO! :/

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:25 17

4. Ksupowercat13 (Posts: 15; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


FUUUUUU VERIZON!!!

posted on 16 May 2012, 18:22 1

111. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


ya i just hope they dont give att any ideas..

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:26 5

5. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


If they take away my unlimited data even though I'm already on 4g I will leave to Att. Their 4g is faster anyways and they get the best world phones as well. So F**CK you VZW if you do me like that.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:33 1

8. archangel9 (Posts: 230; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)


ATT speed is very good but don't go over your data cap .$10 per GB. The CS isn't bad either. Or Tmobile. Give Sprint about 3-6/months for their LTE to get out and push.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:57 2

26. ghostnexus (Posts: 96; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


At least with ATT if there is no LTE there is always HSPA+ before 3g

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:32 10

7. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


%^$^%$^$&^^&%@@^&%&(^% Verizon

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:35 6

53. remixfa (Posts: 13906; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


rasberries to you sir. :)

posted on 16 May 2012, 14:38 4

77. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


they better not touch my unilimited data or I will truly go darkside on them

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:34 3

11. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Ohhhh no they didn't.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:34 3

12. doubler86 (Posts: 318; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)


I didn't transition after the unlimited was cut off though. I got the droid charge when verizon was unlimited 4G for two months. I wonder if this will apply to me.

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:51 1

95. thatjackal (Posts: 15; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Hey, I'm an unlimited-LTE Droid Charge buddy, too. Not sure what they'll do to us, I'll probably call in later in the week. :u

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:37 4

13. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


I keep hitting F5 hoping this is just a fake article but it won't go away!

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:40 2

14. Sniggly (Posts: 7033; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


This is utter bulls**t. It sounds like Verizon is adopting Sprint's plan model, which, by the way, sucks balls. It won't allow for compartmentalization of those who have/want data and those who don't.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:40 3

15. Zumo911 (Posts: 22; Member since: 02 May 2012)


this is BS - especially after the people have been waiting for the s3 to drop. highly disappointed in you Big Red

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:41 5

16. Sprintfan (Posts: 68; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)


Pretty soon there won't be any difference between Sprint and Verizons network in all of the major cities. Except Sprint will remain unlimited and cost you $30.00 less a month.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:51 2

60. Whateverman (Posts: 3203; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Didn't work out that way for me. Sprint is cool if you need unlimited everything. But I pay about the same with 4 lines on VZW as I paid with 2 lines on Sprint. Not to mention the speed is greatly improved.

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:42 3

91. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1587; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


you must have a kick ass family plan then

posted on 16 May 2012, 17:35 1

101. Whateverman (Posts: 3203; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Nothing special. 1400 mins with 10 Friends and Family numbers for $80, two $5 text plans two smartphones w/unlimited data $60, and two feature phones for my parents $20. Sprint wanted $79 each for two Evos and another $50 a piece for my two feature phones for unlimited with those too...ouch!

Just about everyone I know has a smartphone so I told them about Whatsapp, Viber, and Tango, so I don't have to worry about unlimited minutes or text. These carriers have don't a great job at conviencing us we need unlimited everything, but if most of us take a minute to check our plans, we'd find that unlimited just cost us more in the end. At least it did for us.

posted on 17 May 2012, 10:26

143. wumberpeb (Posts: 432; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)


Whoever you spoke with at Sprint tried to hose you...4 people on a family plan, at most, would be $210 if all 4 were smartphones. 2 feature phones would be $20 less at $190. All 4 lines have unlimited data, text and any mobile to mobile. 1500 landline minutes...

The prices they gave were for individual plans. $80 a piece is one smartphone, unlimited mobile to mobile/text/web, $50 for feature phone would be individual plan for unlimited text and 450 minutes

posted on 17 May 2012, 11:51

145. Whateverman (Posts: 3203; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Lol...Looks like someone did try to hose me. That probably would have kept me with Sprint. At VZW I'm paying between $197 - $208, so it isnt much more.

posted on 16 May 2012, 23:16

130. theruleslawyer (Posts: 108; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


Except Sprint's data will run at 56k modem speeds.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:43 5

17. 14545 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Do it and I'm out. Seriously verizon, this is not away to keep my 2400 a year. Like I said, do it and I am gone. I am a heavy user, but not in such a way that is abusive. I use 6-8 a month, and if I don't get at minimum 10-12 gb on my "share plan" then you better not "axe" my grandfathered unlimited plan. I can save 50-70 dollars a month by going to Tmo, so F OFF verizon.

posted on 16 May 2012, 12:49 9

22. 14545 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


PS, thanks iOS tards. Since bringing your crap device over to big red we have lost every perk that we used to have before bringing your junk device over to the network and killing it. Thanks. Sincerely.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:08 8

32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5779; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I suspect you are more on target than you might imagine you are. When VZW did not have the iDevices, they had to fight for contracted subscribers. One of the ways they fought was with unlimited data plans. Almost overnight after VZW started selling the iDevices, the unlimited data plans became expendable.

This is what happens in a duopoly. Imagine how f*cked consumers would have been if AT&T had been successful in its attempt to acquire T-Mo. VZW would have f*cked its customers and AT&T-Mobile would have f*cked its customers as hard or harder.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:25 2

45. 14545 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I realize this 100%. I had a few friends at VZW in sales, and they said that the iDevices are exactly what killed NE2. And I have no reason to believe that all things that have precipitated since then are a direct result as well. I mean they pay out the bunghole for the stupid POS iDevices. And they make everyone pay for it. Make the i Junk customers pay for their own crap. Force them on to limited data and leave us alone.

posted on 16 May 2012, 22:30 1

123. Wildmanfan (Posts: 234; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)


Amen to that brother! The iCrap is what is destroying the cell phone industry. Let them deal with this s**t. Leave us alone.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:09 5

35. Forsaken77 (Posts: 547; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)


Now you know how us AT&T people feel ;)

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:20

39. 14545 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Yeah, I had cingular back in the day, and I couldn't stand it. But I thought, and I have no idea why, VZW would take the high road here and let legacy customers keep the plans they are on, even though upgrades.

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:49

93. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


AT&T let its customers keep their unlimited plans if they didn't activate tethering, and as far as I know, has no plans to get rid of them

posted on 16 May 2012, 17:18 1

99. guyver192 (Posts: 14; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


They are not openly getting rid out it but the are slowing down the speed way before any tiered plan limit. I was all over the tech sites about Att throttling GF unlimited plans at 1.5 gbs with no warning. I think a Iphone user won in small claims court is what bought it to light.

posted on 16 May 2012, 22:33 1

124. Wildmanfan (Posts: 234; Member since: 15 Jul 2010)


But remember man, AT&T is catching up fast. If you go to cnet.com there was an article that spoke about how customer satisfaction is lower for Verizon and higher for AT&T. Surprisingly, Sprint took top honors. VZW went down 3 points.
IF AT&T is smart, they would do something to seperate themselves from the rest and turn the cell phone industry upside down.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:12 2

36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You're going to blame the iPhone?! Wow just wow.

Android users use more data by the way.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:19 3

38. 14545 (Posts: 1112; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I get your an idiot, but have you read a single article posted in the last two years on data usage? Every one says that iDevice users use more data. Google it.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:25 3

44. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Taco is right android uses more data.

Howerver iphone cost carriers alot in subsidies. Get rid of unlimited too offset that maybe. Who knows.

posted on 16 May 2012, 13:29 1

47. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


http://gigaom.com/2011/05/31/android-smartphones-consume-more-data-heres-why/

Article proving said point

posted on 16 May 2012, 16:44

92. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1587; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


yea a year old article before the 4S, i'm sure that's really accurate now...

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