Samsung executive confirms that U.S. variant of Samsung Galaxy S III will feature dual-core CPU
Korea Times, a Samsung executive who did not want to be named said on Thursday that Samsung will use different combinations of processors and radios on the Samsung Galaxy S III depending on the country involved. In Europe, the device will feature 3G and Samsung's quad-core Exynos processor. In Korea, Samsung will use its own solution that will allow the phone to have 3G and LTE connectivity along with a quad-core processor. Only in the U.S. will Samsung use Qualcomm chips, said the anonymous Samsung executive.
The same Korea Times report says that because Samsung is a "top tier" customer of Qualcomm, it shouldn't be affected by shortages of the S4 as much as other manufacturers that use the chip, such as LG and Pantech. Those two could start feeling the affect of a shortage starting in this quarter. LG says it might have to cut back on production of certain models. The dual-core chip, also known as the MSM8960, offers 3G and 4G connectivity thanks to an integrated LTE radio, and is produced using a 28nm process. Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs said, "Although the manufacturing yields are progressing per expectation, there’s a shortage of 28-nanometer capacity."
101. whataLETDOWN (Posts: 1; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
Where is remix??? he must be too sad to comment on the crapdragons. Well I for one have a hard time believing that samsung can't make a exynos captible with LTE for the US. Hopsefully by the time I upgrade next year all this crap will be worked out. I mean doesn't seem fair that I should pay premium price for a water down version.
115. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sorry, i just got here.
I'll believe it when I see it. Ya know why? Because samsung in an OFFICIAL statement when showing off the chip months ago, said that they are using LTE with 4412 and 5250 as well as boosted production of the chips so they would never again have to play the chip switch out game.
Remember how before the i4s came out, everyone had "proof" of its bigger screen from real accessories and such? How did that turn out?
Im not getting worried about a rumor at the peak of rumor season where everyone has an "exclusive" rumor that turns out to be false. In a few days the official announcement will come and ill either cheer or cry depending on how THAT turns out.
102. bruindog (Posts: 31; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I never thought Samsung would screw people like HTC and hype a phone only to bring an S4 to the table. I hope Motorola comes out with a giant killer and makes them both looks stupid after pulling something like this. Whelp looks like I have nothing to look forward to anymore lol
103. cheetah2k (Posts: 1034; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
I don't know what the issue is?
The S4 will be the dual core A15 ARM architecture, which, based on current benchmarks from the HTC One S variant, pretty much holds its own against quad A9 ARM architecture, so.....
I honestly wouldn't be complaining about 28nm dual core A15 top of the line architecture vs 32nm quad 12months old A9 architecture :)
105. thelegend6657 (unregistered)
Dude the current s4 is a9 based but with 28nm technology .
112. BuckeyeCadet86 (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
True, its not a cortex A15, but it uses the Krait cores which is better than existing A9 cores (including the Exynos cores). We know the S4 compares at least even, if not better, than the Tegra 3 but I believe the Exynos quad core will probably outperform it. The good news is the built-in LTE will mean battery life will be better and the S4 still isn't a slouch.
3. rcjrdrummer (Posts: 12; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
wow. pathetic. so disappointing. so much for setting a bar... 2012 isn't looking good
27. Commentator (Posts: 2707; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
At least it makes the choice between an Evo 4g LTE and a GSIII a no-brainer, for me anyways...
35. rcjrdrummer (Posts: 12; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
well Im on verizon, so I was counting on this to eliminate the moto droid choice
42. Commentator (Posts: 2707; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Hmm, yeah, you might be out of options until September when the quad-core S4 HTC phones are supposedly coming. Maybe Motorola can get its act together and release a phone to compete with the current generation. Maybe that Droid Razr HD will be coming with an amped up processor in tow. Unless Samsung can get Exynos processors to work with LTE networks, I can't see myself getting one: build quality trumps S-AMOLED HD, especially since S-LCD 2 looks pretty nifty anyways.
93. sniper1087 (Posts: 430; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)
If you heard about gs3 it will have a 1080p resolution, and we will see how it goes
95. Commentator (Posts: 2707; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
If by some miracle it DOES have 1080p resolution, I'd much rather get a 720p phone anyways, as 1080p is an unnecessary drain on the battery at a resolution indistinguishable from 720p by the human eye on a sub-5 inch screen. If the screen is 5 inches or larger, then I'd be interested...
123. sniper1087 (Posts: 430; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)
well i know the problem is the Dual Core CPU in the US version, there is always the option to import the international version, which quadcore cpu is twice as fast as the dual core cpu from exynos and 20% less power consumption, that indeed is amazing how they can do that, and yes that information can be found here:http://www.androidcentral.com/
40. sinfiery (Posts: 19; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Seemingly same here.
My upgrade's already up, same processor, same ram, almost same screen size. Will root the phone either way.
Camera, build quality, and screen quality are the only factors that remain.
Build quality will either be a toss up or favor HTC,
Camera will probably have a slight edge for the SGS3,
and a Super AMOLED HD+ screen would be nice, but the Super-LCD2 can stand it's ground pretty well.
All in all, the possible advantages of the SGS3 aren't worth the extra wait for the phone to be released internationally, not to mention for Sprint in the states.
Can't be sure until May 3rd, but close to it.
67. rcjrdrummer (Posts: 12; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
Yea seriously. I mean I know the S4 is no chump, but still. I like the samsung interface 15x more than moto. It's just more fluid and user friendly I believe. If samsung's build quality steps up then I still could pick one up
45. aooep (Posts: 20; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Picking the Evo 4g LTE? I was having the same dilemma :P
48. Commentator (Posts: 2707; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I mean, I'll pick whichever is released first because they'll have virtually the same specs now, but it's looking overwhelmingly like the Evo's going to be launched first.
106. bruindog (Posts: 31; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
It's officially guys! SGSII HD! what a joke......
28. MrNobodyWTB (Posts: 27; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. I don't understand why T-Mobile shouldn't get exynos.
I am really irritated by manufacturers placing importance of network speed capabilities over the device's actual performance. Looks like i'll attempt to import this baby if this is the case.
66. Dr.Phil (Posts: 970; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
This has been brought up before in another article and I felt I should address it. If you remember, the T-Mobile version of the GSII had a Snapdragon processor in it. This was because while it may be true that T-Mobile doesn't have LTE, they do need a chipset that supports 42Mbps which the Exynos only supports 21Mbps. Therefore, the T-Mobile version would have the same chipset as other carriers because of this criteria.
EDIT: Unless Samsung addressed this issue by somehow updating their chipsets to support the higher Mbps, don't be surprised if the T-Mobile version has the same chipset offered on other carriers.
78. MrNobodyWTB (Posts: 27; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
Ah! Very true. I do remember that specific matter now. Thank you for the response! :D
Not really worried though. I was planning on buying the SIII off contract anyway, so as long as there is an international version with compatible bands, I'm snatching it up.
113. BuckeyeCadet86 (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
Also T-Mobile USA has plans in the future to switch to LTE and unfortunately T-Mobile doesn't have the subscriber base to create an entirely new production line that works just for their carrier, sad but true.
121. remixfa (Posts: 14253; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it actually doesnt require a "new product line".. which yea, it actually does get. Sensation and Amaze were Tmo only products. The mytouch line... sidekick.. ect.. All carriers get exclusives.
If they have corrected the HSPA+ 42mb with the exynos 4412, there is no reason they couldnt just use the international version. That would be super sweet.
If samsung was smart, they would have went pentaband with the phone like they did with the galaxy nexus.
5. sportsinger75 (Posts: 71; Member since: 11 Nov 2011)
Aaaaaaaaand, the US Carriers crash the party again.
6. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6963; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Should of know we get dual core here in U.S. while the world taste QUAD CORE POWER.
7. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
so, why is the phone going to have a quad core processor with LTE, when the U.S. version will be dual core? I mean, we keep hearing that Tegra3 processors cannot do LTE, so why could Samsung just use the same quad core processor used in the Korean version for the U.S. version?
79. MrNobodyWTB (Posts: 27; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
I'd assume a combination of politics. Availablity/timing. And maybe rules and standards that US has and Korea doesn't.
EIther way, I feel you.. Apparently US carriers/companies think it's their job to tell us what we want.
Anyone upset should just speak with their wallet and not buy the US version and import.
9. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Outdated before it even comes out. Let's see how the fanboys backpedal their way out of this one since they claim anything dual core is junk.
18. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Exacty taco. The droiders r running out of ammo
60. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Are you lot just bored that you feel the need to do this...this goes out to all "trolls" from android iOS windows.etc...lol seriously there better things to do in life than troll you know.like.make comments that are not trying to mock people
82. MrNobodyWTB (Posts: 27; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
Ammo for what?
What are you even talking about? 4s has been (specification wise) outdated since release.
These "droiders" don't seem to require any ammo.
94. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I guess the SIII is outdated then too
20. kidtronic (Posts: 13; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Fanboys of quad core processors? Umm...okay.
23. dsDoan (Posts: 224; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)
If you've read the comments, you'd see that the "fanboys" aren't trying to backpedal anything. They're voicing their disappointment.
31. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
his comment involves blind hate towards android. he will turn on the distortion field and will read comments half way
24. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
they simply wont buy a US version problem solved..... if someone likes Quad core over everything they will get an android flavored Quad core device, if they like Samsung they buy an S3
also can you confirm this? you also have an unknown source that validates it? is it ht same that announced the 2011 iPhone 5? I'm still waiting
also if Samsung uses a Dual Core Chip, then is likely apple will do the same.... just saying
37. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Read the title Samsung exec CONFIRMS
61. protozeloz (Posts: 5387; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
LEARN TO READ would you?
"According to the Korea Times, a Samsung executive who did not want to be named said on Thursday that Samsung will use different combinations of processors and radios on the Samsung Galaxy S III depending on the country involved. In Europe, the device will feature 3G and Samsung's quad-core Exynos processor."
keyword: "who did not want to be named said"
A Samsung Exec who did not wanted to give up his name told the S3 will come up with a lent that has Camera quality photos at 18mp and A battery that lasts 4 days on HEAVY usage.
44. sinfiery (Posts: 19; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
Like A15 Dual Core vs A9 Quad Core..
Outdated? Surely you jest, or are overtaken by silly monikers as quad core and retina display without reading into the inherent change in performance.
46. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Hey mate you do know that the s4 that is built with 28nm is more.power efficient than the quad core that is 32nm and is actually more powerful.and you get lte at the same time so this isn't all bad...people.want quad just so they can say hey I got a quad core phone
57. dsDoan (Posts: 224; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)
Where do you see that the MSM8960 is more powerful than the Exynos 4412? I doubt that. It's not just any quad-core.
64. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
No not more powerful thanks samsungs quad but it is more powerful than the tegra 3 which means.the s4 is not just another dual core CPU like last years and is infact able to hold its own against the 2012 quads and be more powerful than some quad which means people shouldn't be dismissig the s4 just because it's a "dual core"
130. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4163; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Exactly. People just hate on the S4 because it's made by Qualcomm. Yet it holds its own and even out performs the quad core Tegra 3. The S4 is the highest performing dual-core on the market, even beating the Exynos in the GS2 that everybody loved and said there was no lag with. I'll admit, the S3 was one of the (if not the) least powerful dual core last year, but that was last year. Now it's the S4, and it goes against the quad-cores head on.
133. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
we all know it's good but not for this generation of SoC. you're comparing it to the last gen king. xD
62. BattleBrat (Posts: 1232; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
You know what Taco? You are right, Us androiders just got screwed on this one. I mean Sammy KNEW LTE was taking over when they designed this chip and they STILL didn't implement LTE in its design? WTF SAMMY!?! And they insist on using Qualcomm GARBAGE in their phone, Dammit people MOTO makes the best radios! My RAZR 1 (not maxx) gets 2 to 2.5 days a charge, and its 4g, efficient enough for you? I'm tired of Carriers whining about 4g and then murder unlimited data plans, effectively making 4g useless, we'd rather have horsepower and connect to wifi
73. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
who says that anything dual-core is junk? xD
92. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Taco you do realize that Apple can't release a quad core phone, either, do you?
109. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
why not? apple could just release a quad core phone without LTE and use HSDPA+ coming out with their usual argument "LTE is too battery consuming" to deflect the criticism. it would mean that apple would still get the a quad core processor but still no LTE. Either way is going to have its ups and downs
110. ilia1986 (unregistered)
They can't release an iPhone without LTE, because they already got an iPad with LTE.
119. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
Irrelevant, they could easily sell an iPhone without LTE radios. Like their probably not going to include that SGX543mp4 gpu powerhouse in the nex iPhone.
126. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
do you remember how disappointed EVERYONE was when the 4S didn't have LTE connectivity? do you think Apple would do that a second year in a row? i think there would be a call to arms if that ever happened.
138. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
yeah i'm not saying they'll say no to LTE and not include HSDPA+, either way with such a massive amount of consumers already wanting to buy the next iPhone regardless of its specs, apple could quite easily do well without LTE