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Galaxy S8 vs $2000 mirrorless camera and DSLR: Ultimate camera face-off

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Galaxy S8 vs $2000 mirrorless camera and DSLR: Ultimate camera face-off

Omitting the seemingly mandatory for this type of article introduction, which usually goes over how far smartphone cameras have come, I'll just say this – we are here to determine whether the Galaxy S8 can hold its own against not one, but two dedicated cameras. Samsung's latest, bezel-less flagship versus the Panasonic GH4 and the older Nikon D5100. Does a smartphone stand a chance against a $2000 mirrorless camera and an entry-level DSLR? We're about to find out.

But first, let's quickly establish why and how we're going to do this. Many people are of the mind that such comparisons are about whether a smartphone can flat-out outperform a dedicated camera across the board or not. I don't think that's the right way to frame things. Instead, consider this: we're here to see whether a versatile, mobile device that you carry on you every day is comparable in one of its functions to a larger device, that's dedicated to a single purpose. Is the smartphone going to decisively outperform both cameras? No. Does it perform better in some areas? You bet!

With that said, we also need to define what a 'quality photo' means in the context of this comparison. As the old proverb says, even the crappiest camera can take great photos in the right hands, and that's as true as ever. In fact, it's true in most all artistic and professional fields, as skill is more often than not much more important than equipment. However, the greatness of this proverbial photo is open to interpretation. Some might say that a perfectly framed picture that almost looks like a painting come to life is great, while others might praise an evenly-exposed, detail-rich shot with no artistic merits whatsoever.

At any rate, I wasn't tasked to go and take photos for an art exhibition at the office, I was tasked to take pictures of different things under different light conditions, and with three different cameras, so we are not going to judge the results by their artistic merits. Instead, we are going to be talking about color, detail, dynamic range, and how "finished" the results look with no post-processing involved. We know right off the bat that both cameras dwarf the S8 in terms of resolution (16 MP vs 12 MP), and we know that editing can change things a lot, but the question is which device produces the best-looking photos straight out of camera.

For the purpose of this comparison, we'll be using the following gear:

  • Samsung Galaxy S8 – stock camera app, on “Auto”, with HDR turned off for consistent results
  • Panasonic GH4 equipped with an Olympus Zuiko 12-40mm f/2.8 lens
  • Nikon D5100 equipped with a Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5 kit lens

We will be shooting in aperture priority mode on both cameras, with the aperture wide open, and let the cameras adjust shutter speed and ISO automatically. White balance will be set to auto on all devices. The Olympus Zuiko lens is a sharp one, while D5100's kit lens is not the cream of the crop — it's a kit lens, after all — but it should do good to represent the other side of the spectrum.

With all this out of the way, let's cut straight to the chase:

Scene 1: Dandelions up close


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If there's one thing smartphone cameras are particularly good at, it's close-ups. For this scene, I refrained from using Samsung's “Selective Focus” feature, which creates an illusion of a shallower depth of field, but it still managed to blur out the background nicely.

Still, the GH4 has the edge here. The bokeh looks creamier in this shot and the colors better convey how the scene appeared to me at that moment (but more on that later). I can't account for how the colors appear on your PC, laptop, or smartphone, though, sorry.

Anyway, the Galaxy S8, like its predecessors, is no stranger to oversaturation and excessive sharpening. This scene is a perfect example of both these “vices” acting full force. The greens are just too much, while the dandelions' florets have undergone unnecessary sharpening. This is not to say that these two traits of the S8's camera and software can't lead to good results, however. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Scene 2: The cathedral


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Galaxy S8 Panasonic GH4

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Flat light – one of the worst enemies of a good photo. Barren skies, little to no contrast. But it is something that you'll face very often when taking pictures, so it's worth examining how the cameras compare in this situation.

And this is where the above-mentioned “shortcomings” of the Galaxy S8 actually lead to a better shot. Not only does the S8 photo have more detail in the shadows, but the higher overall sharpness of the image really brings out the intricate details on the cathedral's facade, which is the point of interest in this photo. Further, the S8 has managed to pull out some blues from the dull sky, without going overboard on saturation, while the GH4 has not.


Scene 3: Details, details...


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Galaxy S8 Panasonic GH4

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Saw this dilapidated house with vines crawling up its walls in the old town, thought it would be a good candidate for a shot with so much going on its facade and above. I feel like the Galaxy S8 has done a better job at capturing the detail in the leaves above the house, whereas the GH4 has muddled things up quite a bit in this area. On the other hand, the colors in the S8 shot are way too warm. This is also something typical for Galaxy cameras, and in this case, it's doing the picture a disservice.

Further, the S8 has upped the contrast quite a bit this time around, killing some of the detail in the darker parts of the image. This is most evident from the almost pitch-black spot above the narrow window to the right.

Scene 4: Bike lane


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This scene struck me as a good opportunity to test how the S8 fares when shooting against the light. I kept my expectations in check, but was very pleasantly surprised by the results. In fact, the Galaxy S8 photo, in my opinion, is a better representation of the scene as it appeared to me when I was there.

The warm light coming through the trees is one of the things that made an impression and the S8 photo makes me think “that was a nice moment”, while the GH4 shot makes me think “oh yeah, I remember what the scene looked like. Too bad the photo doesn't represent it all that well.” It's just too cold, because the camera tried its hardest to compensate for the warmness of the light.

Scene 5: Graffiti


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Nikon D5100

Galaxy S8

Nikon D5100


A scene that's both rich in detail and color. The Galaxy S8 absolutely trumps the aging Nikon D5100 in this face-off, delivering more detail and more accurate, pleasant colors. The Nikon is too cold and suffers from a slight loss of detail. The Galaxy S8 photo has some much-welcome “pop” to it, and even when scaled up to fit in the Nikon shot, it still looks decisively sharper.

Galaxy S8
Nikon D5100
Galaxy S8 Nikon D5100

S8 photo enlarged to fit over D5100 shot


Scene 6: Subway drama


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Nikon D5100

Galaxy S8

Nikon D5100


On my way to the port, I went through an underpass and thought it would be a good place for some contre-jour action. It also offered an occasion to shoot in black and white. For this scene, I quickly switched to the “Classic” filter on the Galaxy S8 and to “Night vision” on the D5100. I wasn't able to match both shots perfectly, but it isn't exactly easy taking two identical photos on two different cameras while you and your subject are moving. Still, this one is on me.

In this situation, the Nikon aims for a neutral response curve, so as to capture as much information as possible across the shadows and highlights, which leaves us with a flatter image that begs to be enhanced in post. This is what a dedicated camera should strive to do, in all honesty. However, while trying to expose for the dark silhouette, the Galaxy S8 blows out the highlights and produces a dramatic image that's high in contrast, with little to no data preserved in the shadows and highlights. The S8 photo is not better, technically speaking, although it is visually more interesting than the more mundane-looking DSLR shot.

Scene 7: Legally parked


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With the sun hanging low at this point, the light is nice and warm.

The S8 photo came out saturated and high in contrast. The highlights in the sky are likely clipped, and yet, looking at it now, I feel it is a better representation, albeit an exaggerated one, of this scene.

Although the S8 colors are too saturated to be considered “realistic”, the GH4 shot is simply too dull. The warmness of the sunset on the stone wall and the ship behind it, the pale purplish hues in the clouds above — things that really made an impression at that time — are all but gone in the GH4 shot. I could describe to you how the scene looked to me in a thousand words, or I could show you these two pictures. The S8 photo is no doubt exaggerated, but it emphasizes all the things left an impression in me, while the other one does not.

Scene 8: The lighthouse

Low-light territory

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The S8 photo looks cleaner as a whole, but it also suffers from a loss of detail in some areas. For this scene, the S8 chose an ISO of 640 and a shutter speed of 1/10, while the Nikon had to bring the ISO all the way up to 1250 to shoot at the same shutter speed, due to the smaller aperture.

The lower ISO on the S8, combined with the noise reduction algorithms on board, keeps things noise-free, but it also results in loss of detail in some areas of the picture. For example, the railing of the lighthouse has been all but erased in the process, and the same can be said bout the water – it looks flatter with most all ripples gone. However, other parts of the image have been spared and even look better in the S8 photo. An example for this are the stone base of the lighthouse and the graffiti on the wave breakers.

Scene 9: At bay


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This is a tough one. The two photos look remarkably similar colors-wise, although the S8 shot has a bit more “pop” to it. Both cameras perform well in this scenario and I'd call it a tie.

Scene 10: Last rays of sun


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There was almost no light left at this point, and I decided to put S8's low-light performance through one more trial. The shot came out well-exposed, with punchy colors to boot. The water may be lacking in detail when compared to the GH4 shot, where ripples are more well-defined, but the S8 manages to achieve an overall better look that comes closer to what people would otherwise strive to achieve in post. And here is a crop of the GH4 photo with the S8 shot enlarged and overlaid on top, because "shrinking a larger image will only make it look sharper yada, yada."

Galaxy S8
Panasonic GH4
Galaxy S8 Panasonic GH4

The Galaxy S8 shot at ISO 500, with a shutter speed of 1/10, and so did the GH4. However, this shutter speed proved to be too slow for shooting handheld with the GH4


And the winner is...


That the Galaxy S8 is able to stand its own against these two cameras is nothing short of impressive. The S8 produces sharp, vibrant images that consistently capture the essence of a scene, even when it comes to less than optimal lighting conditions. Galaxy S8 photos often look as though they were touched up in post, only they aren't, they are being enhanced on the fly by the phone itself. Although this may lead to somewhat exaggerated results at times, in most situations it helps emphasize the best parts of an image.

Truth be told, S8's camera is not that big of a leap forward from last year's S7, technically speaking. However, Samsung has obviously been working on the camera software for the S8 and tweaking it to deliver improvements in a few key areas – most notably in low-light performance, which has been traditionally problematic for small camera sensors. Samsung's latest flagship is a perfectly capable pocket camera that doesn't disappoint.

As you may have noticed, most of the photos from the GH4 and the D5100, look a bit washed-out in comparison to those from the S8, and there's a reason for this. Dedicated cameras usually aim for a neutral response curve, that is, they strive to deliver a data-rich file which contains as much information as possible in the shadows and the highlights. This results in a rather flat-looking image that gives you rich editing options for making fine adjustments in post. However, this is only good for when you shoot RAW and are willing to spend the time editing afterwards. If you want good-looking photos straight out of camera, you are going to have to spend some time to experimenting and developing your own custom color setting ("Photo style" in the case of the GH4), as well as a custom white balance profile.

I'm not saying that shooting RAW and editing your photos is bad — heck, I do it all the time — it's just that sometimes, when you're not doing a photo shoot or don't want to carry your DSLR or mirrorless everywhere you go, it's good to know that your flashy new smartphone really does cut it as a general-purpose camera. A smartphone can't be a definitive replacement for a dedicated camera, but it can be a great part-time substitute!

Ever more often, when I'm just out and about, I don't really feel like bringing a camera on me without having a clear idea of what I want to do with it. Besides, I know I always have a capable pocket camera on me wherever, whenever. This, of course, is outside the realm of professional photography. If I'm doing a shoot or want a print for the wall, I bring out the big guns.

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posted on 18 May 2017, 04:36 10

1. Djz89 (Posts: 360; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


Nice, but the color on the s8 looks really over sat, looks like a fliter has been used. But the low light shots are truly amazing

posted on 18 May 2017, 04:42 4

4. Bankz (Posts: 1700; Member since: 08 Apr 2016)


God, that saturation!

posted on 18 May 2017, 15:36 2

63. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 13895; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


You are such a whiner.

You are so use to Apple's washed out boring lifeless color, you cant handle some color in a phone?

I do agree its very over-saturated, but at least it looks good. While the iPhone not only washed out color, it makes a live shot look completely dead.

posted on 19 May 2017, 07:38 3

77. gavilan355 (Posts: 39; Member since: 19 Mar 2015)


OMG SHUT UP! You samsung fanboys are as bad as the apple one. that poster never mentioned the iphone but only stated facts, that the S8 saturates, and sometimes over saturates the image. This is nothing new as samsung has always done this to their camera to add vibrancy. Most of the times it comes out great , other times not so much.. as you can see with the DSLRs which normally produce accurate colors, the s8 pics looked too saturated.

posted on 22 May 2017, 13:31

97. Djz89 (Posts: 360; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


i agree iphone pics tends to look washed out, i would take s8 any day over any ip, but over sat makes it look fake.

posted on 22 May 2017, 15:48

98. Niva. (Posts: 433; Member since: 05 Jan 2015)


The Samsung photos are all over-saturated and contrast appears to be increased. Very impressive, but not very realistic.

The DSLRs are capable of much more than the Galaxy 8, but this comparison, like all other similar comparisons on phonearena, fails to show that. Sure, if you want to just point and click at close to medium distance on full-auto the phone camera is probably better for you. One of the key things regarding the shots taken with the DSLRs, especially the Panasonic ones, the "photographer" completely failed at focusing properly.

The Lighthouse scene shows a huge difference between the two photos in color, why did that happen and which one was closer to reality?

posted on 18 May 2017, 09:07 14

44. peace247 (Posts: 464; Member since: 26 Apr 2014)


Man i loved every Samsung shot on my phone... And i think thats what matters most in phone photography.

posted on 22 May 2017, 13:29

96. Djz89 (Posts: 360; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


well its up to you, i like to use filters after . Personally i dont like over sat colors, it looks fake, even if it looks "cool".

posted on 22 May 2017, 04:00

93. askarak (Posts: 17; Member since: 25 Aug 2015)


Low light is just a whole another level, compared to the "Pro" cameras

posted on 18 May 2017, 04:36 33

2. shaineql (Posts: 421; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Just WOW. S8 is a really good investment when it comes to camera.

posted on 18 May 2017, 04:42 7

3. Lenny86 (Posts: 261; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


Amateur set up on the cameras. I have serious concerns actually the pictures were captured by the cameras rather than a midd-end phone. Fakes or you must be doing very wrong with the shooters.

posted on 18 May 2017, 04:53 16

7. Milen_Y (Posts: 25; Member since: 09 Jun 2016)


Of course it was an amateur setup, that was the whole point! I shot on full auto on both cameras and the S8, just like many people do. Also, the GH4 costs $1,197 new, while the Zuiko lens goes for $899.

posted on 18 May 2017, 05:02

10. Lenny86 (Posts: 261; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


Where did you get those prices?

posted on 18 May 2017, 05:12 4

14. Milen_Y (Posts: 25; Member since: 09 Jun 2016)


Amazon, B&H Photo, other major retailers.

posted on 18 May 2017, 15:39

64. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 13895; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Its on Amazon for less than $1000 new...
https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-GH4-DMC-GH4GC-K-Mirrorless-Cinematic/dp/B00L8YWT5G/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1495139862&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=%28281%29+Panasonic+Lumix+DMC-GH4

I would never buy from BHP. They are grossly expensive.

posted on 18 May 2017, 05:17

16. Subie (Posts: 1311; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=panasonic%20lumix%20gh4&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ps

posted on 18 May 2017, 08:06 3

38. dimas (Posts: 2493; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


With google and everything, do you really have to ask those price questions?

posted on 18 May 2017, 05:52 1

21. Jack58221 (Posts: 157; Member since: 23 Feb 2013)


I really hope most people who buy a mirrorless or DSLR don't just use auto everything. And why are the shadows so harsh and lights blown out so bad on the Mirrorless? correct me if I'm wrong, but its Dynamic range should be several times that of the S8.

posted on 18 May 2017, 09:32 1

46. Macready (Posts: 1446; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)


The S8 has the benefit of sampling the sensor several times for every shot to increase dynamic range. That being said, blown highlights are normally a result of metering from the camera and the chosen gamma/contrast curve. Dynamic range differenced between sensors are best judged with equal metering towards the highlights and then comparing shadow detail and noise.

posted on 18 May 2017, 06:00 2

22. BlackhawkFlys (Posts: 590; Member since: 07 May 2014)


But most of the people know how to focus. The photos shot by the DSLRs are mostly out of focus

posted on 18 May 2017, 06:19 12

24. Milen_Y (Posts: 25; Member since: 09 Jun 2016)


All photos are in focus. You are probably referring to the night-time pictures, the blurring in which is caused by the slow shutter speed. It has nothing to do with focus. Low shutter speeds, such as 1/10 in this case, are less than optimal for handheld shooting. However, the Galaxy S8 manages to pull off some sharp photos at this speed, likely thanks to OIS.

posted on 18 May 2017, 08:09

39. dimas (Posts: 2493; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


Can you also do an iphone 7 or google pixel compared to dslr like this? Thankshttp://m.imore.com/camera-tests-iphone-7-plus-portrait-mode-vs-canon-rebel-dslr

posted on 18 May 2017, 11:51

55. sissy246 (Posts: 3713; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Agree
Now do the same with some of the others.
Pixel
iPhone7
HTC
And others

posted on 18 May 2017, 13:21 1

57. cmdacos (Posts: 496; Member since: 01 Nov 2016)


That was a good one. DSLR killed the iPhone except in low light.

posted on 23 May 2017, 14:01

102. Djz89 (Posts: 360; Member since: 25 Aug 2014)


The angels differ so imo it's not valid

posted on 19 May 2017, 10:08

82. TerryD (Posts: 66; Member since: 09 May 2017)


You have the advantage with the S8 that you've got a f1.7 lens but its fixed focal length. The SLRs both have a zoom lens which generally reduces both the sharpness and the speed of the lens. In these cases f2.8 and f3.5, so you're getting approx 4 times the light to the S8's sensor than the SLRs are.

I know its a simple test with kit lenses but a more accurate test would be to stick a cheap 50mm lens on which should offer better sharpness and more light. Price wise they're about £60-£100 for a reasonable f1.8.

A good test for the future might be to see how a typical zoom lens on a camera compares to the zoom on an iPhone 7 plus.

posted on 19 May 2017, 02:24

73. hansip87 (Posts: 103; Member since: 10 Nov 2015)


Not sure if apple to apple auto mode comparison can be done directly. With bigger sensor, the DoF will be definitely shallower than an S8 camera. So the camera needs to decide a lot in 'auto' which part of the picture will be in focus, compared to S8.

posted on 19 May 2017, 08:50 1

79. juandante (Posts: 646; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


And it is completely foolish from the guy that made this review to compare full auto on a DSLR with full auto on a phone.

I seriously doubt anyone will put more than 1000$ in a dedicated unique DSLR to not to make an effort in using settings in manual mode.

And anyone knows how DSLRs are bad in full auto.

posted on 20 May 2017, 12:53

89. rowlin (Posts: 31; Member since: 14 Jun 2012)


Wrong, if a DSLR can't get a good auto exposure shot, then the camera sucks and you should buy another brand. They should have a lot better metering systems than a phone. I get excellent shots from my Nikon D300 in auto mode all the time.

posted on 22 May 2017, 17:01

99. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1120; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


So if shooting full auto was the whole point why choose cameras that are really not meant to shoot in full auto? Why not use a Sony RX1 that's meant to shoot in Auto and has comparable lens to the S8?

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