"Completely redesigned" new iPhone not to be affected by 28nm chip shortages?
"The bottom line is that we remain comfortable with an October iPhone 5 launch despite the reported 28nm chip shortage at Qualcomm," Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster wrote in a note to investors.
At the end of the note, Munster also shared his thoughts that the new iPhone design will feature a body reminiscent to the metal back panel on the iPad. Also, Munster gives a 50% chance of the new iPhone having a screen larger than 4 inches.
"Beyond the redesigned body and screen, we believe the new phone will include 4G LTE, upgraded processor and memory, and a higher megapixel camera," he said.
This counters previous reports from the same analyst saying that shortages of 28nm Qualcomm chips might slow down the iPhone launch this year. Rumors agree that Qualcomm is likely to ship chips for the next generation iPhone, as it’s the first to have made the jump to 28nm architecture and integrated LTE with its chips, a combination of features that allows for greater battery life on a 4G LTE network.
The analyst also gives an 80% chance of Apple meeting its high, 49 million iPhone sales target for the last quarter of the year and reiterated an “overweight” rating for Apple stock with the price target remaining at $910 a share.
1. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok let's really hope so. So the new iPhone 5 will be redesigned but the new iPhone 5S will be a rehash of the iPhone 5, if history repeats itself that is. Let's hope Apple learned from their iPhone 4S blunder!
4. xoutrageousx (Posts: 70; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
Samsung Galaxy S2? and the new rehash is Samsung Galaxy S3...all companies are doing it.
11. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok let me educate you some. lol
The Samsung Galaxy S II,
Exynos dual-core @ 1.2GHz
4.3" non HD Super AMOLED Plus screen
up to 32GB MicroSD card
The Samsung Galaxy S III,
Exynos quad-core @ 1.4GHz
4.8" 720p HD Super AMOLED screen
Android Ice Cream Sandwich
up to 64GB MicroSD card
Eye tracking technology
2GB of RAM (Some of the Galaxy S III’s)
More & more....
The Apple iPhone 4 & iPhone 4S are the same EXACT design, screen, antenna issues, iTunes, Apps. The only difference is 800MHz single-core for iPhone 4 & 800MHz dual-core for the iPhone 4S. Ohh & Siri.
So you still going to go there claiming the Samsung Galaxy S III is a rehash of the Samsung Galaxy S II?
Please try again.
14. -box- (Posts: 3978; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
To be fair, they moved the buttons on the left side of the 4S around a bit, so fitted cases were no longer compatible (another apple trait, new accessory requirement with every new model!), so it's not the EXACT design. And they did improve the antenna a bit (licensing a Nokia design I believe) with the dual-mode design and modified location in the body.
16. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
lol, to sum that up, 1 step backward and 1 step forward. xD
21. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Well that to me is just nitpicking. Ok I give you that. FINE, but is the iPhone 4S more of a rehash than the Samsung Galaxy III. RIGHT?
46. Bangthering_007 (Posts: 36; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
You forgot about the 5-lens new 8MP optics on 4S. Siri is not a bog thing for u, S-Voice shouldn't be too!! I give smart stay one up though!! But I was really disappointed in sammy for not incorporating the ICS menu button in the UI and not leveraging on the Holo theme for the most part. Rest apart all are incremental upgrades only but still happy with its design than the GS2.
15. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Apple should have just released iOS 5 with the 4S in the first place because now people can put the 4S' improvements like you just did and it's pretty sad. xD
30. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah that is so true. I just can't wait to see how iOS6 will mimic Android even more than iOS5
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
look at SAE pullin his pimp slap hand out :)
29. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4712; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah but you forgot that I like baby powder on my pimp slap. lol
31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
iOS 5 with 200 new features
Redesigned antenna system
8 megapixel camera
Siri which Samsung copied
Only thing the same is the body so all your accessories still work.
43. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
yes the SGSIII is uglier phone. and the iphone 4s is dual core... by that alone makes a different phone.. similar but not an exact phone.. thats why it has the S....
44. xoutrageousx (Posts: 70; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
I do like how you say quad core when it's only available to you dual core...i like how you say 2gb ram when it's only available to you 1gb ram...
come on bro, in reality it went from 1.2 to 1.4 in usa, screen bigger? im shocked.
curved design? well it was design by lawyers...
s voice? oh you got me there
eye tracking technology? i see the same faith as finger prints on atrix.
48. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Blunder? Any other mobile company would be ecstatic to have a "blunder" like that. In two quarters, it has sold more than the Galaxy SII has sold in over a year, by a significant margin.
2. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
According to the last 20 rumors, they are using the modified A5X chip from the ipad3, or the newer version in the ipad2, both which run at 32nm because they are modified Exynos chips.. which are samsung made, not qualcomm. And they are of higher quality.
6. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
is Samsung still making Apple's processors? o:
10. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Fabricating the SoCs not just the processor. They opened up a factory last December just to manufacture mainly for Apple.
13. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
all Samsung does is put together Apple's SoC with their parts so i'm a little more careful when talking about Samsung having anything to do with Apple's SoCs because as long as Apple is using PowerVR Graphics with their SoCs and Samsung is using ARM graphics with theirs Apple will have the upper hand when it comes to who's SoC is actually better.
19. ph00ny (Posts: 802; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Does it really matter that much? They're both using ARM's architecture using samsung's fab technology. As for PowerVR, Samsung is also a licensee (including the PowerVR 6 series iirc)
20. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
does it matter that much? imagine a Exynos 4210 with a PowerVR SGX543(MP2) and answer your own question. :P
22. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
or an Exynos 4412 with a SGX543(MP4) for that matter.
24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
aahh.. happiness would be exynos back with PowerVR. :) The only reason my SGS1 is still relevant is because the PowerVR GPU was way ahead of the game when it was released.
Exynos and Apple's A chips are still sister chips. The only difference between the 2 is the GPU. Thats why the moment exynos went to 32nm, the A5x went to 32nm as well.
When apple figures out what the A6 might be, then they might diverge into different branches and possibly a new manufacturer, but all rumors so far say they are going to use the modified 32nm A5X found in the new ipad2 for the i5. That is just an Exynos 4212 with PowerVR.
There hasnt been any rumors to the contrary yet. Apple leans very heavily on Samsung for parts and design. There's a reason they havent successfully found another chip maker to take over the production yet. Its not for lack of trying.
26. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, i sure understand that, i just think the distinction is important because Apple sure has made better decisions in the major role they play in actually designing their SoCs, i mean it's mostly Exynos with PowerVR Graphics for goodness sake! xD
50. Hemlocke (unregistered)
Samsung fabs Apple's chips, but every bit of the design is done in house. They license from ARM and Imagination, but the actual CPU is custom Apple based on the ARM spec for whatever generation they are using.
3. wendygarett (unregistered)
Look at the new iPad... then you know the new iPhone would be nothing much different...
5. -box- (Posts: 3978; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
The next iphone will be available in only lavender or fuschia, have a "resolutionary" display, and a body designed to block reception even more than the iphone4, so that the cult will buy the 2013 model with its improvements on these redumblutionary upgrades and go back to monochrome color offerings
8. -box- (Posts: 3978; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
or so I've heard from "industry" "experts" "familiar with" "the matter" who are "speculatively" "rating" this as "50% likely" "based on" "compenent" "knowlegebase"
7. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Samsung will loss $10 billions in components sells to Apple because Apple is trying to stay away from Samsung for good.
18. dickwyn (Posts: 603; Member since: 07 May 2012)
yeah their stock immediatly dropped after rumors of apple going for other ram modules for mac
17. -box- (Posts: 3978; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
know way, steve jobs was a g0d and everything he did was purfect and tim cook is gr8 and will keep apple dumbinating ovver everyone else becuz their the best no1 can compete WE SAY.... tim is the new leader but not the founder hail steve!!111one!!!shiftone!!!!
12. Nocturne (Posts: 24; Member since: 21 May 2012)
The fact that it needs to be explicitly stated that a phone released a year(or two design-wise) after its predecessor will have a new design as a cause for hype is truly pathetic.
The "new" iPhone/ Iphone 5(6) is still playing catch up.
Apple has more or less recently become more a fashion designer that focuses on tech products, as opposed to an innovator in the tech field.
25. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Just a thought but what about the Cortex A15 from ARM? I know TI won't have a running SoC model till the middle of next year but could another company be working on one for Apple?
27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5688; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
what makes you think the OMAP5 is so far away? xD
28. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Sorry I meant production. Most media blogs and sources indicated either a late 2012 production run or 2013.
47. alan_1230 (Posts: 81; Member since: 22 Apr 2012)
Okay now this does get me hyped up ! it reads that there's a 50% chance the iPhone 5 will have a screen larger then 4 inches . I currently have the Samsung Galaxy s2 and it's a big phone i really don't want to go down to a smaller screen for example 3'5 inches or 4 inches . I really have been tempted to get a iPhone since forever so I am really hoping to get the iPhone 5 in October! I know many will be disappointed by a larger screen but it get's difficult typing or surfing the web with big hands !