Up periscope! Take a gander at the key component for the Galaxy S11+ "Space Zoom" feature

Up periscope! Take a gander at the key component for the Galaxy S11+
The latest rumor calls for Samsung to unveil its first 2020 flagship line February 18th in San Francisco At the same event, the company will introduce its second foldable phone. Unlike the Galaxy Fold, which costs $1,980 and folds along the vertical axis, the Galaxy Fold 2 could be priced as low as $840 and folds along the horizontal axis. Resembling the Motorola razr, the Galaxy Fold 2 will be a pocketable device that stays hidden until you need to open it so it can be used as a phone. Compare that to the more unwieldy Galaxy Fold which opens to reveal a huge 7.3-inch tablet.

As for the Galaxy S11 line, once again we should see three different variants, the Galaxy S11e, Galaxy S11, and the Galaxy S11+. Unlike past years when Samsung powered its flagship models with its own Exynos chip in most regions and employed the Snapdragon SoC in just a few countries like the U.S. and China, this year there could be a big change. A report out of South Korea just a few days ago noted that Samsung executives feel that Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 865 Mobile Platform outperforms the Exynos 990 SoC; as a result, the Galaxy S11 family will be powered by Qualcomm's chip everywhere but Europe where the Exynos 990 chip will be found under the hood. The Galaxy S11+ could sport a massive 5000mAh battery.

Zoom is one area of smartphone photography where software isn't the perfect answer

Smartphone photography continues to be a major battleground and with Apple taking the iPhone to a new level this year, Samsung is expected to fire back. Indications are that Sammy will look to improve its telephoto game in 2020 with the use of a periscope optical zoom module that will be used on one of two telephoto cameras on the Galaxy S11+. One of the telephoto cameras is rumored to provide 2x optical zoom while the other, sporting the periscope module, will deliver 5x optical zoom. In conjunction with the 108MP sensor on the Galaxy S11+, we could see Sammy's top-of-the-line model give users the opportunity to enjoy 50x hybrid zoom and 100x digital zoom. This feature could be marketed under the name "Space Zoom." Tipster Ice Universe (@UniverseIce) recently shared a photo showing the periscope optical zoom module that is expected to be found in the Galaxy S11+.

Earlier this year, Samsung acquired Corephotonics, the company that helped Chinese manufacturer Oppo develop the periscope zoom technology used on its 10x lossless zoom system. Samsung paid a reported $150 million-$160 million for the outfit, which has approximately 150 zoom-related patents. This could prove to be a major acquisition for Samsung. While computational photography is the buzzword we've heard often over the last year, the truth is that zoom is just one of those features that require a true optical and mechanical approach instead of relying on software. Oppo introduced its 10x lossless zoom system at last year's MWC trade show in Barcelona.

The Galaxy S11+ could feature five sensors on the back including one weighing in at 108MP. This camera will employ pixel binning to produce enhanced 27MP photos. There should also be an improved ultra-wide camera, the two telephoto cameras, and a Time of Flight (ToF) depth sensor. This measures the time it takes for an infrared beam to bounce off of a subject and return to the phone; with this data, more accurate depth information can be collected for improved AR functionality, more natural bokeh blurs on portraits, and perhaps a secure facial recognition system.



1. RoryBreaker

Posts: 299; Member since: Oct 11, 2015

All this is great, a battery that truly lasts ALL day would be even better.

2. lyndon420

Posts: 6915; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

A graphene battery!

7. DBozz

Posts: 153; Member since: Sep 19, 2019

Coming In P40

10. tbreezy

Posts: 231; Member since: Aug 11, 2019

Yep, Huawei always brings this top stuff out first, like the Periscope in the P30 Pro. :)

26. jasrockett

Posts: 128; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Always,, would that be like for the past 6 years, 8 years, 10 years. Always ay

3. Rocket

Posts: 731; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

The galaxy 11+ will last that long probably.

4. Seanetta unregistered

Oh Phone Arena why is it you fail to even mention Huawei who made one of the first 5x zooms?? Samsung is up against Apple in the zoom game? You mean Huawei

9. Mikele

Posts: 193; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

I wondered why Huawei powerful innovations on camera zoom died a hard death on PhoneArena. Possibly the US ban or what was the justification? The site is for Apple and Samsung I guess

12. AlienKiss

Posts: 316; Member since: May 21, 2019

Because nobody wants one anymore. Deal with it! I'd rather use an ancient 3310 than one of those spying replicas.. Only Samsung or Sony for me.

15. alanrock

Posts: 341; Member since: Oct 04, 2018

"who need to zoom that far" was PA conclusion regarding P30 Pro 5x zoom, some people was complaining in comment section but all in vain, ban is real.

11. tbreezy

Posts: 231; Member since: Aug 11, 2019

Get used to it, they hate giving Huawei any credit.

18. User123456789

Posts: 1348; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Oppo announced they were going to do it way before. Partnership with same company Huawei did and Samsung bought.

23. vincelongman

Posts: 5810; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Huawei also used a module from Corephotonics

5. Alan01

Posts: 662; Member since: Mar 21, 2012

Yes, but this is not about who was first with 5x zoom. It's about Apple and Sammy one upping each other. Alan

8. Priyam009

Posts: 73; Member since: Oct 23, 2018

Samsung doesn't even compete with Apple in camera department its Huawei and Pixel who are really innovator Apple well they copy camera tech as simple as that from ultrawide to night mode & I doubt Apple has capabilities to bring 5X zoom even in 2020 may be 2021 & then they will as usual invent it am sure of that

27. Vokilam

Posts: 1443; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Yet, iPhones night mode is different when you compare photos - iPhone has the subject focused and lit but background still night and dark, the androids like Samsung and pixel night mode just floods the entire photo with light. I’m not about who’s is better - it’s a preference. But if Apple “copied” night mode - why are results completely different?

6. OlegVN

Posts: 3; Member since: Dec 14, 2019

Finally Samsung Galaxy S with Snapdragon will be available in most regions..

24. vincelongman

Posts: 5810; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I don't like big phones But because of the 865 and 12/108MP 1/1.3" sensor, I'll probably get a S11+

17. indlvarn

Posts: 21; Member since: Jan 22, 2019

The same guy Ice Universe is writing that Samsung 108 MP camera will have a technology to merge 9 pixels into one so it will make 12 MP photos with the size of 2,4 um of one pixel! If it's true, that's huge news.

20. QuantumRazer

Posts: 216; Member since: Apr 27, 2019

So they sacrificed all those pixels for extreme low light capability and video HDR? Then what about the details in photos? I wish they would've gone for something like quad bayer 64MP 1.0µm sensor that produces 16MP image instead, this would still yield higher light sensitivity than Mate 30 Pro's 40MP sensor while being significantly better at resolving details.

25. vincelongman

Posts: 5810; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

A Quad Bayer 64MP 1.0µm sensor wouldn't be better than the Mate 30 Pro's 40MP sensor As the Mate 30 Pro's sensor is RYYB RYYB has an average transmittance of about 38% more than RGGB (as the Y filters out less light than G filters)

28. QuantumRazer

Posts: 216; Member since: Apr 27, 2019

But a larger sensor takes in 60% more light compared to 40MP RGGB sensor(so 16% more than Huawei's RYYB sensor), and using a regular Bayer color filter means it's better when it comes to white balance, dynamic range, color reproduction and handling image artifacts. Basically it's better in every single way.

19. User123456789

Posts: 1348; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Pointless to use this FL if quality drops a lot. Main point phones will never reach IQ from Cybershot. Photos of 8MP that look like 1,5MP.

21. QuantumRazer

Posts: 216; Member since: Apr 27, 2019

Cybershot cameras are irrelevant as it uses a small sensor(typically around 1/2.3 inch at most) and narrow aperture lens that cuts down a lot of light that hits the sensor. Sure it's great for zooming, but if we talk about the pure image quality at the widest end of the lens, it doesn't even come close to Pixel 4 or iPhone 11 let alone upcoming S11 or P40 Pro that will pack lot larger sensors.

22. User123456789

Posts: 1348; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Cybershots are mostly 1". Also, pocket cameras have quality lenses, not crappy plastic ones like phones. My 1/2.3" do not take yellowish photos at night like iphones. A camera from 2009. Periscope usually are 8MP 1/4" f3 or smaller. Much worse than 1/2.3" f3.6

29. QuantumRazer

Posts: 216; Member since: Apr 27, 2019

It was my bad that I forgot to include RX series into Cybershots, but if you're comparing your 1/2.3 inch digital camera to a phone camera, my point still stands strong. Your camera will produce noisier photos with crushed shadows, burned highlights and less detail than any high end smartphone cameras. As I already said, it's a great device for zooming because it'd better be when it has such a chunky body and a retractable lens, but the laws of physics and inferior software processing simply won't allow you to take better photos with your camera at the widest end, and there's almost nothing that the difference in lens material can possibly do here. Sorry.

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