Not all doctors agree the Apple Watch Series 4 is good for your health

Not all doctors agree the Apple Watch Series 4 is good for your health
The latest (and arguably greatest) Apple Watch has gone up for pre-order last Friday, which means super-early adopters are only a couple of days away from getting their hands on the wearable device everyone’s talking about.

But the killer new features of the Series 4 will not actually be available at launch, allowing a heated debate around the real-life medical benefits of the $399 and up gadget to continue.
 
It’s no longer a secret that Apple struggled until the very last minute to gain the mandatory FDA approval needed to include an ECG monitor on the company’s upgraded smartwatch, which might explain why the ECG app is still slated for a (US-only) launch “later this year.”

What you may not have realized (if you’ve been living under a rock) is the ambivalence of the medical community towards the Apple Watch Series 4. While plenty of health professionals seem to think the mainstream wearable device is indeed groundbreaking, boasting major life-saving potential for people unaware of a widespread heart condition, many others have used various social media and traditional media platforms over the past seven days to express their concerns.

Without going into too much technical detail, John Mandrola, a cardiac electrophysiologist at Baptist Health Louisville, may have perfectly summarized the problem with the newest Apple Watch.

Although the proven accuracy of the device’s Electrocardiogram feature sounds impressive, at around 90 percent, that actually means almost 100,000 people of a pre-defined pool of 1 million users will likely be falsely diagnosed with atrial fibrillation (AF). 

We already know Apple expects to sell a lot more than a million units, so the number of people likely to seek medical help for nonexistent problems will grow exponentially. There’s obviously nothing wrong with routinely making sure the old ticker is beating properly and functioning without a glitch, but according to Mandrola, “many” doctors will be inclined to order tests for patients “falsely diagnosed” by their hot new Apple Watches.

Thus, in addition to “needless anxiety and costs”, people could also “suffer harm from unnecessary tests and procedures.” All because a commercial watch is probably not the right device to correctly identify irregular heart rhythms and recommend the proper way to conduct preventive health services.

source: Medium

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36 Comments

1. LikeMyself

Posts: 631; Member since: Sep 23, 2013

The hospital ecg is not very diagnostic on its own as well. U have to confirm with ct scan & angiogram. So the Apple Watch is still good enough. Doctors & their superinflated egos!!!

2. Rishi17

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 22, 2016

iSheeps & their blind faith.

9. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

It's not about brand or faith. The truth is; medical science is still in its infancy, believe it or not. Everything you take has a side-effect and every invasive surgery has its share of complications. I've to take Atenolol (A known beta-blocker) for my irregular heartbeat, chest pains and high blood pressure. I've to take it daily otherwise I might end up with a stroke. And it's side-effects include blurry vision, kidney damage, depression and... Impotence. And that's THE BEST they've got. Go figure!

20. thedizzle

Posts: 194; Member since: Oct 05, 2017

That sounds s**tty friend, sorry you have to deal with that.

23. strategic_developer

Posts: 1627; Member since: Jul 17, 2018

No it's not in its infancy. Side effects are simply your bodies way of dealing with foreign chemicals being introduced to it. It has nothing to do with the age if medicine. Alcohol and drugs all have side effects. That doesn't make them bad or mean what you claimed.

4. SIGPRO

Posts: 2815; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

So you trust this rotten fruit company more than doctors? You are truly blind and cannot be helped anymore......one of the biggest Sheep around! You would even buy a huge piece of cow dung with the fruit logo on it.

19. thxultra

Posts: 443; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

The watch is a tool to let people know they should see their doctor. Trust it enough to get something checked out sure. You can hate all you want but the heart rate monitor and notifications have already saved lives that is really impressive.

24. strategic_developer

Posts: 1627; Member since: Jul 17, 2018

There are lots of wearables and some phone with HR capabilities. As with all such products, their accuracy is low and questionable. Are they helpful? Yes. Having a device that can warn you of a potential problem is a benefit. It's not hate because someone questions something. Drs make plenty of money. The dr simply warned if what will be thousands if false calls.

28. thxultra

Posts: 443; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

The sensors on the iphone have been approved by the FDA which puts them a step above. They have had the heart rate warnings in place for a while already and false alarms aren't a issue. Has nothing to do with doctors making money at all so not sure where you are going with that. As I said this isn't a tool to replace doctors it is a tool to warn people of a potential issue so they can bring it up to their doctor. Will they get some false calls yes but they will get way more potential problems addressed and to me that is a win for the watch.

8. darkkjedii

Posts: 30961; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Yep, we'll mos def take your word (superinflated ego) over an actual Dr.

10. cmdacos

Posts: 4085; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Quite possibly the dumbest comment on this site today but really expected nothing less. If you think the watch is even close to medical grade equipment you are deep in the RDF. The watch has impressive tech but it isn't a medical device in the slightest.

29. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

The day's young. Someone will come through with something even dumber.

18. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3097; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

The Apple watch is not a medical equipment and will never replace a medical equipment. Don't call health care providers who dedicate some of their time and families so you can post your dumb comment as superinflated egos. The brand worshipping is out of control.

22. strategic_developer

Posts: 1627; Member since: Jul 17, 2018

Like you said, drs have the equipment to fact check what an ECG may be telling them. The Watch doesnt have this and many people could be running to the dr thinking they are gonna die. How many fakse alarms this is gonna create is basically what the dr is saying.

3. Feanor

Posts: 1346; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

I see a different danger; having constant access to such data can easily increase stress levels to susceptible people and downright paranoia to the more hypochondriac of us. It can also lead to false perceptions about how you tackle health issues. As it stands now, I find the employment of such technology almost dangerous. However I don't dismiss entirely Apple's effort because I see it as a first step towards a more perfected digital health assistant.

5. surethom

Posts: 1661; Member since: Mar 04, 2009

Some dr's just don't like us diagnosing ourselfs but when we go to the Drs they say nothings wrong without even doing an ECG so at least with this patients will have more of a say to get a Drs ECG done.

6. scarface21173

Posts: 655; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Yeah i have got a dodgy ticker, coz my watch says so.

7. darkkjedii

Posts: 30961; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Of course it's not, it's a watch. It is however, a move in the right direction. Hit the gym, eat right (the majority of the time), cause that's better than any ECG.

27. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

It's much more involved than that. Trust me, I've had 2 heart attacks. I eat right, I'm in pretty good shape for mid 50s at 6' and 200 lbs and a 34" waist. but my family history is riddled with heart disease on both parents' sides. There is no substitute for clean living (no drugs, alcohol or tobacco) and a comprehensive annual checkup. Pay attention to your body, it will usually let you know well ahead of time when something's not right. I had a scheduled appointment with my cardio 3 days before the second event so I already knew it was coming. My advice is a good heart rate monitor (I use Fitbit) and a portable blood pressure device (I use a Qardio).

30. darkkjedii

Posts: 30961; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Hope all is well for you bro.

31. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Thanks darkk, all you can do is what you can control. I've learned 2 things that keep me grounded. One is that Father Time is undefeated. Second: just when you think you're 10' tall and bulletproof, just remember someone out there makes 10' long caskets.

35. darkkjedii

Posts: 30961; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Yes sirrrr. True words.

11. slim3bdo

Posts: 165; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

Last day clearness is a sign of bribery , 2nd it's been discussed all over medical sites that this watch might cause more harm than good due to overdiagnosis or misdiagnosis. Being able to do a one-lead ECG is definitely interesting, but does it always help? Here's a scenario. A 40-year-old runner starts feeling dizzy, lightheaded, and has chest pain. He worries but remembers that there is an ECG function on his watch. He proceeds to do the ECG which then reads "normal." Because of this he decides to continue to run. And might suffer CVA due to that wrong reassurance . Yet again nether the watch or ECG machine can replace a good doctor since reaching a diagnosis in 85% of cases is dependent on the doctor not the lab tests

13. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Stop spouting your utter nonsense old man

21. slim3bdo

Posts: 165; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

Argu with reason or please shut up , You have a brain inside your head so use it and give reason and stop crying like a child when some one explain your toy is broken .

32. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

But my toy is broken! Fix it!! Also stop spouting utter nonsense! A nonsensical statement will receive a nonsensical response, so.... YOU FIRST kiddo.

34. slim3bdo

Posts: 165; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

It's my mistake arguing with a child

36. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

I WIIIIN! I WIIIIN!

33. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Oh by the way, you statement is utter nonsense!

12. MarvzIsFallen

Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 11, 2017

Doctors are also butthurt with apple watch ecg!

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