WSJ: Verizon selling customer location data
posted by Alan F. / May 22, 2013, 1:07 AM
And while this all seems remarkably familiar to past battles between handset manufacturers, carriers and privacy groups, even the latter admit that Verizon isn't doing anything wrong. Basically, the carrier says it is not selling information about individuals but is offering data about groups of people. This still is a worry to the ACLU's privacy specialist Chris Soghoian. He worries that by giving Verizon the incentive to profit from this information, the carrier has a reason to track its customers more closely.
Users can opt out of having their data collected by logging onto Verizon's website. Governmental workers and corporations are not included in the data collection and Verizon says it is following all applicable laws. And it is not just Verizon that is getting into this business. AT&T's Jeff Weber, president of content and advertising sales, says that the operator would love to get into the same business of selling and analyzing data that Verizon is in, while offering customers a way to opt out. But so far, AT&T says it does not have a similar product to Verizon's at this time.
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When overcharging your customers for cell phone plans and forcing them into 2 year contracts isn't enough its time to sell their personal data.
posted on May 22, 2013, 1:14 AM 11
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I find it funny that people get all up-in-arms about being tracked through their cellphone, but they probably don't even stop to think about how many hundreds of companies track them on various websites on their computers.
posted on May 22, 2013, 7:20 AM 3
How exactly are people "forced" into 2 year contracts? I don't seem to recall anyone holding a gun to my wife's head and saying "sign it or she dies". You no contract nutjobs, I wish you realized how batsh*t insane you guys sound.
posted on May 22, 2013, 11:56 AM 3
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Exactly. Some custs b*tch when I tell them they'll be renewing their contract by upgrading, but then I tell them "well, you can still buy the phone and not renew the contract. You'll just pay full retail for the phone and your bill will still remain the same. *checks price* Ok, on this phone, it's gonna be $650" Their eyes light up and the next words out of their mouths are "ok...let's upgrade!" Mwahahahahaaaaa
posted on May 22, 2013, 6:05 PM 0
hey i dunno about you but they locked me in the back of the verizon store and tore my fingernails out til i agreed to be with verizon for 2 moreyears. lol just kidding yes will the extremists please the article. I am not comfortable paying as much as i do for verizon while there also profiting off my location and what websites im looking at, maybe if they offered me a discount to let them do that then im cool with it. anything for a dicsount.
posted on May 23, 2013, 5:13 PM 0
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https://www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013 Guess which offender is the worst when it comes down to having no regards for your privacy rights?
posted on May 22, 2013, 4:26 AM 4
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Hey Giggity can you explain the chart because I see a bunch of stars but I don't actually know which one is the worst. (I'm being serious)
posted on May 23, 2013, 1:39 AM 0
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Require a warrant for content of communications: In this new category, companies earn recognition if they require the government to obtain a warrant supported by probable cause before they will hand over the content of user communications. This policy ensures that private messages stored by online services like Facebook, Google, and Twitter are treated consistently with the protections of the Fourth Amendment. Tell users about government data requests: To earn a star in this category, Internet companies must promise to tell users when the government seeks their data unless prohibited by law. This gives users a chance to defend themselves against overreaching government demands for their data. Publish transparency reports: We award companies a star in this category if they publish statistics on how often they provide user data to the government. Publish law enforcement guidelines: Companies get a star in this category if they make public policies or guidelines they have explaining how they respond to data demands from the government, such as guides for law enforcement. Fight for users’ privacy rights in courts: To earn recognition in this category, companies must have a public record of resisting overbroad government demands for access to user content in court.1 Fight for users’ privacy in Congress: Internet companies earn a star in this category if they support efforts to modernize electronic privacy laws to defend users in the digital age by joining the Digital Due Process Coalition.
posted on May 23, 2013, 3:47 AM 0
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I opted out of that the second I heard about it, it's not right that any cell phone carrier profits by selling their customer data that they collected while still charging the customer outrageous fees. If they're selling data that they collect on you, they should at least have the common decency to discount your bill.
posted on May 22, 2013, 9:40 AM 1
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While I understand what you're saying in principle, I wouldn't say that a for profit company legally making money off of it's customers is "not right." I would say it's what every business tries to do. Is there something you're trying to hide?
posted on May 22, 2013, 10:22 AM 1
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I GUARANTEE you they aren't the only one doing it. it's quite obvious Verizon doesn't care what the masses thinks, because they throw out information like this with impunity. you can't tell me they don't have someone collecting information from sites like PA, Phonedog and others. most of the user comments are pretty negative. but 497 markets covered by 4G LTE is pretty freaking awesome, I must say.
posted on May 22, 2013, 10:25 AM 0
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It is very easy to opt-out. No need to cry, just opt-out.
posted on May 22, 2013, 10:48 AM 2
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