Tim Cook reacts to the Dayton and El Paso shootings, stops short of calling for gun control

Tim Cook reacts to the Dayton and El Paso shootings, stops short of calling for gun control
The CEO of America's richest company has been ever more vocal on issues of national importance lately. After coming out for LGBT rights with a dedicated press release and givign stump speeches to the White House administration on the trade and tariff dispute with China, he is now heavily reacting about the latest "made in USA" mass shootings craziness over the weekend.

On Saturday morning, August 3rd, about 20 people were massacred with an AK-47 in an El Paso Walmart, and Apple's Tim Cook immediately tweeted a reaction mentioning Apple's Cielo Vista campus.

Shortly after this, a deranged shooter went and shot nine people dead in downtown Dayton, Ohio, and only the heavy police presence in the area prevented him from mowing down more with an "assault-style rifle," according to local law enforcement. Despite that Apple has no campus presence in Dayton, Tim Cook interjected here as well:

Apple's CEO didn't stop here, though. Right after his first two "thoughts and prayers" comments, he threw himself in the mass shootings debate ring with what seems to be a call for a bipartisan effort in passing much needed legislation that would curb the likelihood of such incidents, though he stopped just short of mentioning "gun control" in one form or another:

By saying he is "heartborken" and urging legislative changes, Tim Cook and, tangentially, Apple as a company, are taking a side in the high-stakes debate what to do about this unprecedented rise in American mass shootings. The move is not unprecedented - Apple has taken a firm stance in defense of user privacy, for instance - but for the first time it comes about something that is not directly related to its products or services.



1. Fred3

Posts: 494; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

I agree with Tim Apple but it's hard to get both sides to agree on the same issue when they're both trying to fight or lock each other up

2. bucknassty

Posts: 1325; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

Well... gun control doesn't have to mean taking away guns... the second amendment protects us from a corrupt government... What we need is to understand the value of human life! damn what happened to love thy neighbor no matter next door, next state, next country... life isn't just a video game that can be reset, some people are blurring the lines... and trust me i'm not blaming the video game industry. as a whole everyone needs some prayer and compassion no matter what religion, everyone needs to know that you matter and mean something and are worth more than you know.

3. Rocket

Posts: 641; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Well, the only responsible person is Trump, he's promoting too much hate and racism in the US.

10. dumpster666

Posts: 68; Member since: Mar 07, 2019

trump is also responsible for your lack of brain cells

12. Vokilam

Posts: 1181; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Tell me exact words that trump said to promote hate and racism? Offering people that hate this country and what it stands for to go back to theirs is satire - not racism. The most amount of racism promoted is liberal media. CNN is the biggest baiter when it comes to racism. You point your finger at the wrong people.

23. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

"Tell me exact words that trump said to promote hate and racism" "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime[-]infested places from which they came." - Trump, talking about 4 US citizens that have non-white sounding names.

24. Vokilam

Posts: 1181; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Leo, they are saying s**t about our country and how “some people did something” is better for America. She referred to terrorists that took down the twin towers on 9/11 as “some people did something” and she thinks this did something good? Are you effing kidding me? Those 4 US citizens only complain about our American liberties - trump just said what everyone was thinking: “you don’t like it? Stop blaming our country. Stop blaming Americans that enjoy their freedoms. Don’t change what makes this country great. So no, that wasn’t racism. That was satire. It just happened that those 4 goons were not white! He and everyone else would have told them exact same thing if they were white and spewing this garbage. You don’t like it - show me a better country that’s better.

29. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Most proclaimed patriots (mainly the politicians and the extremists) cannot - or will not - make a difference between "country" - which means the people - and "state" - which means the institutions. I don't know what those 4 persons have said (and I don't really care) so I'll take your word for that; if you say that Trump reaction was just, because they complained about US liberties (they are not American liberties, because Venezuelan-Americans or Honduran-Americans don't have them), you're actually reproaching them that they exercise one of the rights you're talking about: the right to free speech. Whether you like it or not, telling those US citizens to go to another country just because their last name is not white-like is called racism and should be punished; I'm not saying to kick Trump from the WH - although he has no place there - but at least condemn that kind of behavior. "You don’t like it - show me a better country that’s better." Almost any EU country treats its minorities better than US; almost.

30. Vokilam

Posts: 1181; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

I told you, Leo, that trump didn’t say that because they were part of some minority group - he said that because what they said. And I bet if they were white trump would say the same thing. This is not racism this is patriotism. America does not treat any minority any worse than any other country. I’d suggest it treats them better - my own liberties are being infringed on because of these minorities. I have to be politically correct everywhere, I have to guess your genders, I cannot refuse service if I’m disgusted by your behavior, and so on. I’m tired as hell from all this. And now these four cronies suggesting more and more policies to benefit themselves that give nothing to me but only cost me more in taxes. These 4 “US citizens” turn a blind eye on problems Americans face and are urging the government to pay for non-citizen welfare and healthcare. I rather they use the money to bring all cities ran by democrats back into green - they have the worst gun violence, the worst employment stats, and worst living conditions. Yet they want to tax the working class to pay for some people who are breaking our laws by crossing the border illegally? Come on...

35. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

C'mon, dude, that's textbook racism, telling a Massachusetts born and raised person - a representative of US people - to go "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime[-]infested places from which [she] came"... Boston, Springfield or Worcester, MA have suddenly become crime-infested places and we don't know?! I haven't seen street fights between black people, arabs, jews, gypsies on a side and white people on the other side in Europe and we also didn't go to Siria or Iraq to bomb the s**t out of innocent people, because some dumb Isis f**ks opened fire at a concert and bombed some of our cities. We also pay to feed the refugees and to make sure they have healthcare, even though we could just sink their boats and be done with them. We had our share of crazy leaders, but you should learn from our mistakes, not repeat them. Trump - and, as far as I can see, you too - should learn that people - no matter the race or how smart they are (you know what I think about many of the persons that comment on this site: I despise their comments, but I respect their humanities and their right to write stupid things) - are the most important asset of this earth. Peace, bro! No, dude, what Trump is doing is not patriotism, it is hate speech.

16. BearHug

Posts: 24; Member since: Jan 27, 2017

I guess before Trump, there weren't any mass shootings? Or perhaps the Dayton shooter who stated he'd vote for Warren (Blue) was a MAGA-head.

4. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Gun control is not about “taking away your guns” as the NRA loves to parrot. It’s about keeping guns away from those who have no business having them in the first place. I’ve been an owner of multiple guns for over 30 years and have never had to raise any of them to another person. My first gun purchase was delayed by a few weeks in the aftermath of Reagan being shot. I didn’t suffer irreparable harm from it, why can’t we have a federal “cooling off” period like many states already do? Nobody died because the assault weapons ban denied them the opportunity to own a TEC-9. Come on people.

6. middlehead

Posts: 452; Member since: May 12, 2014

Tell that to the politicians who are explicitly saying they want to confiscate all guns. Nobody who cares about their rights should give an inch as long as those nutjobs have a voice.

31. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3122; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Name one politician who has openly stated they want to confiscate all guns. I'll wait.

13. Fred3

Posts: 494; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

I'm a gun owner as well but with the NRA putting fear on the left and being the main unidentified money source behind doors this will continue until someone is clever enough to expose them.

17. BearHug

Posts: 24; Member since: Jan 27, 2017

The major issue is that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." You have no idea how the definition for "those who have no business having them in the first place" would change over time. As middlehead stated, there are politicians (parroting several voters) who explicitly say they want to confiscate all guns. You give in to gun control, however minute, and sooner than later, I can bet they'd keep asking for more until confiscation is the only option left on the table. Give an inch, take a mile. Want examples, look no further than Feminism and PETA. Both started with demands that were reasonable and everyone could get behind. Today they've become euphemisms for radical nutjobs, because apparently if you don't give in to their newest demands, however off-putting; then you must have time-jumped from the Middle Ages.

5. ssallen

Posts: 174; Member since: Oct 06, 2017

The author of this article is reading what they want to hear not what he actually said. He said, "address this violence" which is about as far away from picking a side as possible. Other possible interpretations based upon the readers personal views could mean: "strong mental health initiatives" or "armed guards in every school". All of those would qualify as bi-partisan initiatives. Quit trying to deitize the guy who has more photos of him shaking hands with Trump then most leaders of small countries.

7. Donbenie

Posts: 259; Member since: Aug 04, 2013

Waiting for the next fool to trumpet "Guns don't kill people..

14. Vokilam

Posts: 1181; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Cars kill more people than guns, people without holding a gun kill more people than people holding a gun. Guns protect more people than they kill. Enjoy!

20. AbhiD

Posts: 720; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Flawed logic. People killed by cars are due to "accidents". They aren't done on purpose. While anyone involved in mass shootings goes out with the intention to kill as many people as he/she can. It's basically mass MURDER! Car accidents aren't Murders. Got the difference? Enjoy!

22. MsPooks

Posts: 71; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

The car didn't kill anyone, accident or not. The individual behind the wheel who caused the accident did. You're actually correct in the second half of your statement though: ANYONE WITH THE INTENTION TO KILL. In other words: PEOPLE kill people. There isn't a gun, in the history of guns, that decided to go out one morning and start killing anyone. Not...a...single...one, and I dare you to show otherwise.

26. AbhiD

Posts: 720; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Individual behind the wheel wasn't out to murder people. Due to his/her lack of awareness or the fault of victim itself, the accident might happen. That why it's called a damn "accident" in the 1st place. That's not how people get murdered by weapons. Your reply itself is based on a rocky start

25. Vokilam

Posts: 1181; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Bombs concealed inside cars, terrorists mowing down people in trucks, road rage, police chases is all over the world. Why aren’t we banning cars? Banning guns only removes weapons from law abiding citizens - there will be zero weapons turned in by criminals. ZERO!

27. AbhiD

Posts: 720; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

How many people have been murdered in US due to all those factors you mentioned? Remember i am talking about Murders, not unintentional accident numbers. And how many people have been murdered due to guns? Count it and Enjoy!?

36. RebelwithoutaClue

Posts: 5; Member since: Jul 31, 2019

Cars kill more people than guns? In 2017 37.133 were killed in a car accident. 39.673 were killed with a gun.

19. MsPooks

Posts: 71; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

A gun has never killed a single person.

28. AbhiD

Posts: 720; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

But a gun is easy tool to murder many many people at once as compared to say a knife or vehicle or something else. Even a bomb hasn't killed a single person. Why not have them legalized too in USA? And enjoy dozens and hundreds of people blowing up at once?

8. LiveFaith

Posts: 453; Member since: Jul 04, 2015

Awww, we have been asking for Tim Cook's opinion forever. I hope he can pontificate his superior wisdom to us all more and more. Elitist billionaire San Fransicans have a keen sense of everyone's needs in America and beyond.

11. cmdacos

Posts: 4095; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. " Please share this message with your design and UX teams.

15. Vokilam

Posts: 1181; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Yet you keep posting the same damn posts on EVERY Apple article several times a day! Please share this message with your self.

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