Three days after San Bernardino attack, Apple delivered parcels of information to the feds

While many are taking shots at Apple for not helping the government investigate the San Bernardino terrorist attack by unlocking Syed Farook's Apple iPhone 5c, the truth might actually be a lot different. Based on a court filing by an Apple attorney, the company delivered "two parcels" of information related to subscriber data just three days after the attack. Most believe that this was iCloud information related to three different subscribers and nine different accounts.

On January 22nd, the attorney (named Lisa Olle) said that Apple received a search warrant for the same iCloud information for Farook's iPhone. On January 26th, Apple complied with the search warrant and handed over to the government all of the information it had. Around this time, Apple discovered that the Apple ID of the phone in question had been reset by the San Bernardino County Department of Health, which actually owned the iPhone 5c it had given to the terrorist. The local agency did this at the behest of the FBI, and it was a major mistake. Had the password not been reset, Apple could have obtained the information sought by the feds. This could have been accomplished by backing up the content and data on the phone to iCloud, using a Wi-Fi network. Apple is now planning on encrypting such data to prevent the government from requesting it in the future.

And that brings us to the court order that Apple refuses to comply with. The positions are now well known. Apple is concerned that developing a unique Govt.OS to unlock the phone used by the deceased terrorist could end up with the software in the wrong hands. This could threaten the security of every iPhone holder. The government, and GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump, say that Apple is more concerned with its business than the possibility that future terror attacks could be thwarted with the information that Apple won't help the government discover.

But like most things in life, this is not a black and white issue. And despite that sound of hot air rising (no, wait, that's Donald Trump talking!), Apple has responded to previous requests for information. And consider this. There is a line that has to be drawn somewhere. Instead of being called unpatriotic or worse, Apple is taking a stand against a government request that could be seen as overreaching. And while today it is just a smartphone, tomorrow it could be Uncle Sam breaking down your door because the government wants some information from you. And the feds don't even think that examining Farook's phone will yield anything of value about other suspects!


The record submitted by Apple (and not denied by the feds) reveals that Apple has done every thing it could without hurting its customers' privacy, to turn over information about this case. Tim Cook even said this on the day the story blew up to become our new national pastime in the states. There are those who say Apple is not a good corporate citizen. It would seem that the opposite is true.

Circle March 22nd on your calendar. Not only is Apple expected to unveil the 4-inch Apple iPhone SE, the 9.7-inch Apple iPad Pro and a refresh version Apple Watch on that date, the court is also holding hearings on this matter.

   Lisa Olle Declaration in Support by Mikey Campbell



source: Scribd via AppleInsider

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78 Comments

1. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

Omg every where I read one tech writer after the other trying to defend apple. It's hilarious to read all these pathetic excuses to why apple is doing what they are doing......if you put them all together one would think they are about to save mankind.

2. Ashoaib

Posts: 3271; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Apple is not wrong... although I dont like their previous creepy cooperartion with NSA but I second Tim Cock on this case... if iphone is sold only in US then there is no problem to create a back door... But iphone is an international phone and why should none US people also be opened up for spying?

28. ph00ny

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 26, 2011

but they're only asking for access to this phone. Even if they have to make "something", they can make it so that it only runs on authorized device

38. joeytaylor

Posts: 957; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

The U.S. Government cannot force anybody to make something that doesn't exist

75. 14545

Posts: 1835; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

Wait, so it's ok to spy on US citizens? You should re-read the 4th amendment.

4. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

@RoboticEngi What if the guy Farook had a Samsung? Well, enough said...! I'm not an iSheep, nor I'm an "sGoat"... I'm a gMan! Which means Goggle Nexus fanatic! But Apple has my full support... BTW, U.S had about three mass murders since then, and non of them got as much of a spot light... So, does it means that it's okay when a white guy kill another white guy? Yankees are too foolish to be trusted even with a BB Gun! Let alone a semi automatic rifle! G'Day!

86. Jango

Posts: 372; Member since: Oct 24, 2014

you sir are the voice of truth and reason

5. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

@RoboticEngi What if the guy Farook had a Samsung? Well, enough said...! I'm not an iSheep, nor I'm an "sGoat"... I'm a gMan! Which means Goggle Nexus fanatic! But Apple has my full support... BTW, U.S had about three mass murders since then, and non of them got as much of a spot light... So, does it means that it's okay when a white guy kill another white guy? Yankees are too foolish to be trusted even with a BB Gun! Let alone a semi automatic rifle! G'Day!

17. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

Your posts are even more difficult to read than Techie's essays

21. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

@wiencon I shall take it as a compliment... I'm grateful...!

82. ANDRIODMAN33

Posts: 5; Member since: Feb 29, 2016

NO he is saying you are a moron. You need to stop say the s**t that comes out of you mouth as it sinks of s**t.

22. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

brace yourself, Techies essays are coming..

23. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

I Look forward to reading them. Very informative are he's post.

27. Awalker

Posts: 1968; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Once someone's post goes beyond a paragraph I skip over it. It's a comment section on a tech site but some feel the need to post their college dissertation.

64. quakan

Posts: 1418; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

Comment of the year

73. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I never went to college. But thanks for three compliment. Lol

43. sissy246

Posts: 7035; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Good I also like reading them. Sometimes he makes good points sometimes not.

53. DoggyDangerous

Posts: 1028; Member since: Aug 28, 2015

true. Sometime he makes good points and gives very informative examples. So, I am not in a favor to bash him on a long paragraph. But sometime he really goes over the board and look desperate to made his point valid. Wow, we are remembering him in his absence. Probably, he is a pretty famous guy. Good for him.

57. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

He's Phonearenas famous user.

63. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

False. He's full of himself and annoys most people on here. Not all but most. It doesn't take a essay to say I hate Apple. Fact. You can say this in 3 words.

74. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I don't hate Apple.

8. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

Ok, to all the Apple supporters. They just ask the fruit to unlock the terrorist's phone, not YOUR phone? Why do you guys feel so insecure? Do you have some criminal records in your phone or something? Geez, I can't believe society these days. This is why your America is full of crime, terrorism and racism, yet you guys still can't see a reason why. smh

13. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

So along comes Apple and makes really lovely machines that people instinctively know how to use. Or at least how to switch on. More than that, the company offers real live human beings in their neighborhood who can help them when there's something they don't understand. Stupid dumbasses.

62. jovy1212003

Posts: 11; Member since: Feb 27, 2016

Why are you posting on an apple article??? I ignore all android articles because I could care less about buying any of their phones that go free after 6 months!!!

19. Clars123

Posts: 1076; Member since: Mar 16, 2015

I'm not an Apple supporter but you clearly don't understand the issue..the FBI isn't just asking Apple to UNLOCK THE PHONE..it's asking for software that will make them able to UNLOCK ALL THE iPHONES IN THE WORLD...and that's the cause of debate....I would personally say that apple should just take the damn phone and unlock that one device rather than giving the FBI the software but that's extremely oversimplified...and privacy is a lot more than 'having some criminal records on your phone'

48. Plutonium239

Posts: 1178; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Actually, it only would work on all Iphone 5c models, an antiquated model... And Apple could take back the special IOS version it wrote for it after it is installed on that phone and delete it...

68. ph00ny

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 26, 2011

They're clearly not asking for a software to unlock all iphones in the world. They're just asking for assistance on this particular one with court order in tow

29. ph00ny

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 26, 2011

You make it sound as if other countries don't have crime. We all know about crime rates in korea

30. SenorThrottles

Posts: 284; Member since: Dec 23, 2015

You clearly don't understand the situation so just don't comment on it.

50. Micah007

Posts: 266; Member since: Oct 09, 2014

Oh enough of that. I'm tired of this make believe slippery slope that likely will never come to pass.

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