This Windows 10 Mobile build could be the one that Windows Phone 8.1 users receive OTA

This Windows 10 Mobile build could be the one that Windows Phone 8.1 users receive OTA
We are getting closer to the long awaited OTA update that will take Windows Phone 8.1 driven handsets, and turn them into Windows 10 Mobile powered phones at long last. A Windows Phone insider in the fast lane has a Nokia Lumia 520, and points out that the notification on the phone now has a more official air to it than seen previously. Build number 10586.164 could be the version of Windows 10 Mobile that is sent OTA to Windows Phone 8.1 models.

Because this version of the software is also being sent to the current group of Windows 10 Mobile devices (Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, Microsoft Lumia 950, Microsoft Lumia 550 and Microsoft Lumia 650), it would make sense to expect it to be the final build. And that would indicate that it won't be too long before the Windows 10 Mobile OTA update is rolling out.

Keep in mind that Microsoft has made it clear that some Windows Phone 8.1 models will need to receive a firmware update before receiving the Windows 10 Mobile update. And while there should be a large sense of excitement here, many would say that they are not feeling it. This could be due to the lack of enthusiasm from Microsoft.

Many have come to the conclusion that when it comes to smartphones, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Surface chief Panos Panay have their heads in the clouds. And when we say heads in the clouds, we mean that they are focused on the Surface Phone that is rumored to launch later this year. The pair would like to leave their mark on Microsoft's smartphone business, something that they didn't get a chance on doing with the Lumia line that came over in the Nokia Devices and Services acquisition.

source: WindowsCentral



1. ItsDaFaz

Posts: 7; Member since: Nov 08, 2015

So this is finally Windows 10 Mobile refined and polished, right? This is what the 950 duo should have had?

5. DoggyDangerous

Posts: 1028; Member since: Aug 28, 2015

Please don't get too excited. It is still far from refined and polished. Wait until one year then it will be great. But it will never be great without apps. Microsoft is hard at work to fix all issue one by one. Nadella and Panos sound like a pair of Hackle and Jackle OR Tom and Jerry. They will never be able to fix the problem with Windows. They are like Nokia, who was never able to fix Symbian. I purchased Nokia N8 few days ago and I am feeling that Symbian was not that bad. Android borrowed its interface from it. Nokia was not able to develop this OS further. They should have made it open source instead of killing it. Same with Microsoft, no matter what they will do with windows. It will prove useless.

6. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

I have a buddy with 930 and he doesn't complain about lack of apps, every major app that isn't officially on WP has great replacements that sometimes are even better than originals. I like WP very much, my dad still runs 1020, I'm curious to see W10 on it

8. HonestRealist

Posts: 196; Member since: Jan 25, 2016

3rd party apps are RARELY as good as their official counterparts. And you claim them to be "better"? hahahaha Now that's some funny s**t :'D

13. hemedans

Posts: 755; Member since: Jun 01, 2013

yes they are better these are few features of tubecast then compare it with official youtube apps from ios and android. -it can cast video to chromecast, dnla and other wireless technology -you can play video/audio in background (music playlist) -you can watch video in all quality available -you can like, comment and login to save your favourites -you can download video in all quality can official youtube do that? in wp 3rd party apps are much better, i use them everyday 6tag(instagram), tubecast(youtube), 6cloud(dropbox), 6tin(tinder) promegle (omegle) etc

15. HonestRealist

Posts: 196; Member since: Jan 25, 2016

In short. Yup.

21. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

official youtube app plays in background without any modification? It can cast to my xbox or blueray device? I stopped using it a long time ago so haven't checked on the new update. Does it also skip the ads? Because tubecast does, haven't seen an ad in ages.

9. LetsBeHonest

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jun 04, 2013

Honestly I can find many cool things about windows phone but quality and quantity of apps are not among them.

26. justrt

Posts: 446; Member since: Jul 10, 2014

I am back to my old Lumia 925 after my Galaxy S5 broke and I can tell you, WP not only lacks apps like Snapchat, Bank of America (they say it's coming soon), Periscope.., but the apps that are present are so behind their Android and iPhone versions. For example Messenger never got a calling feature, GIFs, money transfer, etc.

29. DoggyDangerous

Posts: 1028; Member since: Aug 28, 2015

you have a buddy who doesn't complain and I am using windows myself. You doesn't have an experience of your own. Your information is a 2nd hand information. And plz come onnnnnnnnn, I am tired of hearing mom and dad stuff. Please Grow up immature kid.

7. HonestRealist

Posts: 196; Member since: Jan 25, 2016

Open source isn't always a recipe for good source. Ala Linux, which is great, but lacks support and most importantly a large user base.

14. ItsDaFaz

Posts: 7; Member since: Nov 08, 2015

I'm not excited. I'm done with Windows Mobile/Phone/whatever. I don't want to use an OS which used to be clean and fast, but is now unreliable and horrendously slow.

16. nighthawk_al

Posts: 55; Member since: May 23, 2014

I still use a S60 N97 as one of my daily drivers, even though I get easily tired to its small screen, so I don't use it much except messaging and calling. For sure it was not that bad, it needed to be polished and touch optimized, but it had features that put to shame all of today's mobile OSs.

22. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Symbian was made open source actually, but Nokia wanted control like Google has over Android. Companies stepped away, fearing that Nokia would rule all and have their version better. Sounds kinda ironic when you think of the android doing just that. Samsung Cisco and many other OEMs stepped away from it...

2. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

I wonder why Microsoft abandoned project Astoria? This project was the lifeline of Windows Mobile platform and yet some genius at Microsoft Mobile Division thought it would be wise to put it on halt indefinitely... I'm a Twitter Twit and you've no idea how inferior Twitter App on WP is compared to iOS or Android... Only free Apps that worth downloading are the ones made by Microsoft itself... Almost all good apps are paid... I think MS should call this a day... And they realize it too, and are giving this o OS one final push with the highly anticipated surface phone... But read my lips, Microsoft: even Surface Phone won't make any sales progress without Project Astoria... BRING IT TO LIFE...

11. hemedans

Posts: 755; Member since: Jun 01, 2013

one reason made windows 10 for mobile buggy was android code. when Msft decide to remove it then suddenly win 10 become smooth. Project Astoria is dead but project Islandwood is still alive and good example is Candy crush saga which was ported from ios. For me ios apps will be easy to port to wp because ios has restriction like wp compare to android which is open.

12. hemedans

Posts: 755; Member since: Jun 01, 2013

and on twitter apps use peregrin or metweet they are best free twitter apps

17. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Windows app got already problems on it's own and to carry Android's defragmentation issues and the shift from JAVA to Android's own kit, Windows just easily said NO.

23. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Not a huge twitter user myself...what makes it inferior? What is something that you do on the daily grind in twitter that couldn't be accomplished either via the app or the website?

28. Jason78

Posts: 281; Member since: Apr 10, 2013

They killed the plan to port over Android apps but the plan to port iOS apps is still alive. To me that makes sense. The iOS marketplace is huge and more importantly, iOS doesn't have the huge fragmentation found in Android.

3. cambotodd

Posts: 13; Member since: Jun 15, 2015

Its a pretty solid build.I have it on my Lumina issues.very smooth

4. LetsBeHonest

Posts: 1548; Member since: Jun 04, 2013

Without developer's support an OS can't gain much growth nowadays.

18. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Apps are just a portion of the pie. People tends to choose what can their phone do independent of the apps. Just compare, let's say Lumia 950, Nexus 6, and iPhone 6. Out from the box, the iPhone and Nexus are just bare while the Lumia is a complete enterprise package from Office to multimedia plus the continuum, 950 is value for money.

20. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Common joe doesn't phone for enterprise features...they want to play clash of clans,candy crush saga,alto's adventures on their phone..if they don't get it they'll not buy it

24. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Certainly want CoC but not because I will play it, don't like the game, but others will. Games carry a platform almost more than bank apps. But the best part is that with the Universal thing....numbers are no longer an issue. They will have a target audience of 200milllion atm, and only to grow more. Not to mention they make more money on the platform to begin with.

19. nandan

Posts: 1; Member since: Mar 09, 2016

If i use a window 10 insider build in my lumia, can i eligible for official window 10 update ?

25. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Yes, there is different rings, from production to fast to slow.

27. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Microsoft software people will get windows 10 mobile fixed. they have no chioce. They got windows 10 PC OS stable and running well they can do that with a little smart phone's OS. I just want them to stay with windows 10 for a few years and stop jumpng from windows 7 to win 8 to win 8.1 to windows 10 mobile. ms SHOULD make Windows 10 mobile a great smart phones OS and stay with that for AWHILE

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