This Tuesday, Apple and the FBI will meet in court; Apple's top security expert will attend

This Tuesday, Apple and the FBI will meet in court; Apple's top security expert will attend
The day after Apple is expected to officially bring back the 4-inch iPhone, the company will square off with the FBI in Washington D.C. about its refusal to unlock a dead terrorist's Apple iPhone 5c. The FBI has requested a evidentiary hearing, which means that both sides will be able to present expert witnesses whose testimony will face cross-examination from the other side.

Some legal experts feel that this means that the FBI does not feel comfortable with its legal position. Harvard law professor Susan Crawford said last week that the FBI's case is on "shaky legal ground." The request for the evidentiary hearing apparently caught Apple by surprise. Usually lawyers with a strong case want to avoid expert testimony and want to stick to the facts of the case.

Since experts will be taking the stand, Apple will call on both Lisa Olle, Apple’s Global Law Enforcement Manager, and Erik Neuenschwander, the firm's go-to-guy on matters about cryptography. Neuenschwander previously filed a declaration. He said that creating the so-called Govt.OS required to unlock Syed Farook's iPhone would be a burden on Apple employees. These same employees "if identified, could themselves become targets of retaliation, coercion, or similar threats by bad actors seeking to obtain and use GovtOS for nefarious purposes."

Apple also plans on repeating its position that the All Writs Act (the legislation from the 1700's that the FBI is citing as a reason why Apple should comply with the court order) can't force it to develop Govt. OS.

The action starts Tuesday at 1pm PDT (4pm in New York) and will run to 5pm PDT (8pm in the Big, uh, Apple). Don't expect to hear a ruling right away. If anything of interest comes out of District Court for the Central District of California, we will pass it along to you.

source:  ComputerWorld via BGR



1. darkkjedii

Posts: 31055; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

The bell rings for round one. Ding ding.

9. S-R-K

Posts: 304; Member since: Mar 15, 2016

Victory to FBI. KO to Apple.

11. Unordinary unregistered

Apple already won around 1. Sorry to inform you. Shouldn't you be pro-privacy, to hide all that child porn you probably have?

13. darkkjedii

Posts: 31055; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Lol good one. He's probably that creepy type.

16. Unordinary unregistered

Coming up on 20k posts Mr Jedi. Good quality posts too! Unlike me or 90% of this site.

18. darkkjedii

Posts: 31055; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Bro, I just try to keep it about tech. Some idiots here refuse to let us however.

30. S-R-K

Posts: 304; Member since: Mar 15, 2016

Half of them were trolling posts in the past. A sudden miracle of the other half were his speculative thoughts. Nothing was contributive.....

38. darkkjedii

Posts: 31055; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Arte8800, try not to get this one banned so soon.

39. Unordinary unregistered

In the past? So, you had another account. In the past. Yet you're on this brand new account. Funny how you know that. What was your banned accounts name?

14. Mrinal

Posts: 36; Member since: Feb 28, 2016

No SRK, Apple will win this battle!

10. vincelongman

Posts: 5695; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I predict Hunt by TKO in round 2 Oh wait... This is PA

17. vincelongman

Posts: 5695; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I was wrong Hunt by KO in round 1!!

19. Adreno

Posts: 755; Member since: Mar 12, 2016

You aren't sounding funny, nor contributive to this topic.

20. vincelongman

Posts: 5695; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I'm just messing around dude Anyways its not like anyone else is being contributive

25. Adreno

Posts: 755; Member since: Mar 12, 2016

I underatand, man. You're free to, as well. And I wasn't bashing you at all. I was just saying... :D

2. combatmedic870

Posts: 985; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

No meantion of the S7s camera topping dxo?

3. canner

Posts: 68; Member since: Feb 29, 2016

why would there be?

4. jellmoo

Posts: 2588; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Er... You should probably send the Tip into PA regarding that, rather than posting a comment into an article that has absolutely nothing to do with your note.

6. Adreno

Posts: 755; Member since: Mar 12, 2016

*mention. :D BTW, mentioning S7's camera topping dxo is irrelevant to this article.

5. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

I am fully expecting them to try to cast doubt on the security experts skills and abilities.

7. Adreno

Posts: 755; Member since: Mar 12, 2016

The FBI and DOJ should get their heads out of their ***** They think they have absolute power to do whatever the hell they want. Republicans are worse.

8. MrMiyagi

Posts: 41; Member since: Feb 27, 2014

Apple could actually drag this on for as long as they can and use the momentum for marketing the iPhone 7 & 7 plus...that is if Johnny Ives isn't feeling too lucky bout he's design

21. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

They honestly don't need it. Especially since the government is trying to paint Apple as an enemy against America.

22. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

The FBI and the government do not stand a chance and are wasting tax payer dollars on a fruitless effort to undermine our security, considering Google and Microsoft, along with other companies such as Amazon, Facebook, Mozilla, etc ... are backing Apple in this case.

28. S-R-K

Posts: 304; Member since: Mar 15, 2016

Lmfao. Apple must be paying billions to these Oems to support rotten Apple.

23. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

I'm with Apple in this case, but I must say, this is really sounding like Karma coming back to bite Apple on the butt big time. After all their years of hypocritical business practices ( and patent trolling, they now face an even bigger hypocrite. Who threatens to fine them of all that cash (which they've gathered through hypocritical business practice) until they comply, or make them loose ALL their software developers (making their device development stagnant and even less appealing compared to the competition), or make them loose the trust/confidence of their customers (if they give into the pressure). Living by hypocrisy, dying by hypocrisy. That said, I sure hope the government gets their head out of their behind and back down...

24. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

You're trying to stir a pot with nothing in it. There are many within the government that oppose this case, and entities such as Microsoft and Google have publicly given their support to Apple in this case. There is little chance for the government to win, all they are doing is wasting our taxes in a fruitless pursuit against undermining our privacy yet again.

29. S-R-K

Posts: 304; Member since: Mar 15, 2016

I will never ever be with Apple. Everyone's trying to take down Apple. Karma. God save Fbi and USA. It's time the government takes Apple to plummet.

36. AppleVersusAndroid unregistered

This has nothing to do with Apple and its products and everything to do with the federal government attempting to win a decision which would allow them to obtain any information from any iPhone if they so pleased. The implications would be that the government could then use the judgment in this case to obtain information from Android and Windows devices as well, and not just the US government, but foreign governments would then feel they'd be free to pressure Apple to turn over the same GovOS and use it for their own means. Less blind hate, more logic.

26. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014 apple will bring their specialists. What a surprise, I would have thought they would just bring some of the retards here from these comment sections. They are experts if you ask them....

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