The Galaxy S8's iris scanner is too slow, so Samsung is also adding facial recognition
by Kaloyan C. / Mar 09, 2017, 4:09 AM
It appears Samsung is having some problems with the Galaxy S8's long-rumored iris scanner. According to a new report, the company has chosen to add facial recognition to its newest flagship, citing speed and reliability concerns as the root cause behind the decision.
The news comes in the form of a direct quote from an unnamed Samsung official, courtesy of Korea Economic Daily. The person claims that while iris scanning was found to be unsatisfactory in terms of reliability, its face scanning implementation works in less than 0.01 seconds, though that might be simply an exaggeration. Prototypes are also said to be currently in testing, but it remains unclear whether the iris scanning tech will be removed altogether, repurposed for face recognition, or will be used for both.
the upcoming iPhone 8, which is also said to feature face scanning. Apple and Samsung have historically been rivals in the smartphone race, though, curiously enough, Samsung recently signed a deal to manufacture the newest iPhone flagship's OLED display.The move could also be fueled in part by recent rumors of
It's worth noting, however, that Android already has a built-in option for face unlocking, as part of the Smart Lock functionality. It could be that Samsung has simply chosen to enable the feature, which wasn't present in the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge, as an alternative to the underperforming iris scanner. This would be an easy choice, as Google's face detection doesn't require any special hardware, but rather uses the front camera only. However, Samsung has been known to offer its own alternatives to existing Android functionality in the past, so for now we'll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, make sure to also check out our Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8+ rumor review.
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Sammy, ditch the iris scanner.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 4:12 AM 11
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After getting the Surface Book I am convinced that Windows Hello facial recognition (IR sensor along with regular camera) is the best way to access my computer... It doesn't need to update my face regularly (something that was needed for my old Asus notebook with webcam logon)... and the IR sensor recognizes me with/without beard and even in pitch dark conditions.... For a phone I like a good Finger Print scanner... I had the original Motorola Atrix 4G and the scanner always worked wonderfully for me.... and we all know that it was a very early attempt so... I would love to see a phone with both FPS and the equivalence to Windows Hello...... that would be the ideal case for me... PS: the Surface Book's tablet part is only 7.6 mm thick so it is feasible to implement it in a phone.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 8:34 AM 3
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If the iris scaner is going to be slow and the finger print sensor is on the back... having left handed people and right handed people.. i think it might be very well the decline of them. Risky move, but at least they have the guts to jump in. Whatever the outcome.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 4:37 AM 2
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"having left handed people and right handed people.. i think it might be very well the decline of them." Is this really an issue? An adult can use his/her weaker hand to manipulate his/her smartphone. Using the S8's fingerprint scanner at the back does not require any force, so anyone, whether left-handed or right-handed, can use either of hand to unlock the S8 with ease.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 7:15 AM 0
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They should have focused their resources on putting the fingerprint scanner under the display, on the front of the phone, it would have been the ideal option. But they are lazy, until Apple doesn't come up with something, Samsung doesn't either...
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 4:41 AM 3
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According to rumors it was one of their priorities, but unfortunate for them yields ended up being damnright terrible. Besides, there still aren't guarantees Apple (being their biggest competitor) will be able to bake the fingerprint sensor inside the display. Though having said that I certainly wish so since cause the iPhone "Edition" (aka OLED iPhone) looks to be the most feature-packed phone rumored so far for 2017.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 5:05 AM 0
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i've owned note7 before and iris works well except not working under sun light . So no way sammy could have iris problem in s8 . its more likely that they have better faster solution than iris already but they rather wait for i8 to come with iris for kicking butt . seems like a right timing . apple is mad, so is PA . thats why we are reading the buttt hurt article right now :p
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 4:43 AM 15
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My S2 already had facial recognition unlock 6 years ago out of the box.... But this seems a rather nonsensical rumor anyway, since the Note 7 iris scanner was already pretty fast and pretty reliable under almost all circumstances. Add progress and a faster chip and what do we have...
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 5:11 AM 5
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In the 3 weeks I owned a Note 7, I found the iris scanner to be slow and had a miss rate of about 5o%. All the times I kept moving the phone closer to, and then farther away from, my face to try and get it to unlock. Was hoping they had improved it by now.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 5:29 AM 0
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There are a ton of sensors at the top of the S8 so maybe they were already implementing facial recognition and gave the okay to leak this now... I had the note 7 and the iris scanner was lightning quick and after I got the muscle memory part figured out I knew just where to hold the phone for optimal execution. Most of the time I didn't even see the scanning screen and could unlock the phone while holding it naturally to do whatever I was doing with the phone... I'll be looking forward to using facial recognition if it's implemented correctly and hopefully not just taking pics of my face as the old face recognition did...
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 6:51 AM 0
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Not good at all! The fingerprint scanner under the display is the best alternative to the physical home button. The iris scanner and facial scanners are just there for two factor authentication. The fingerprint scanner on the back is a odd location excuse you can't use it while the phone is laying down and people will constantly touch the camera in search of it.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 6:56 AM 0
I think they should just continue fine tuning the FPS and the Iris Scanner, Facial Recognition is pushing it to borderline overkill IMO. We all know how well the Facial Recognition was on Ice Cream Sandwich, it wasn't, it was terrible. Make it simple, don't overwhelm it with all these security options.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 7:05 AM 1
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well i dont believe that samsung is having problems with the iris scanner at all, lets face it, the note 7 iris was super quick for the tech, and they have had a further 6 moths to develop it, now if they are having problems increasing the recognition time then ok perhaps that is the issue, i figured they would have just cannibalised the N7 hardware anyway unless its the wrong size??
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 7:28 AM 1
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According to me specs far Samsung galaxy S8+ -6inch 2k super omoled display 3D Corning Gorilla glass in compact body same as S7 edge. -SD 835 QC 4.0 -6GB DDR4 RAM 64GB internal Samsung UFS new SD card support -12MP dual camera with f1.5 tripel tone flash -8MP f1.5 with ois and front flash - finger print scanner on front under the glass like MI 5 plus -Iris scanner -ir blaster -3.5MM jack Water and dust resistance ip68 -3800-4000mah battery 0-100% in 70 minutes - fast wireless charging 0-100% in 120 mintues -
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 8:01 AM 0
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"The move could also be fueled in part by recent rumors of the upcoming iPhone 8, which is also said to feature face scanning" SERIOUSLY PA!? samsung had this function since the S2, and now you're saying that it could be due to Apple implementing it on their next Iphone. You guys are really retarded.
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 9:29 AM 1
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I just read the original article in Korean. Why do you add to or misinterpret the original statement PA? According to the Korea economic daily, the Samsung official merely has said that iris scanning has its li itations in terms of improving speed and accuracy. So they are implementing facial scanning to complement the iris scanning to achieve 0.01 sec. Scan time. Where is "too slow" and "unsatisfactory " mentioned in the original article as you have mentioned? Or you are just adding this thing up just to paint negative image on S8?
posted on Mar 09, 2017, 5:19 PM 0
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